In Musk's defense, I'd probably do these things too if I took a lot of drugs on a daily basis worked really hard too.
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Wired does a Musk expose. It's not pretty.
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It's funny too because WSJ put out some sir about employees ghosting and saying there is no company loyalty and millennials are entitled blah blah blah. I've asking people to explain why when employees are treated like shit and paid like shit, most people come up with some variation on "think about how company feels, this hurts the company blah blah".
Keynotes aside, Jobs was very private person. Musk, on the other hand, craves attention.
the sales and reviews for the Tesla's talk for themselves. and the spacex program is a marvel considering the state of NASA's funding. but sure, keep thinking that.
Reminds me of an interaction I had with a former manager who barely knew me as I was fairly new at the time. "Did you do this? Huh? Did you do this?" In reference to a customer order screw up. But he didn't swear like Musk.
Anyway screw Musk and the supporters that blindly worship him.
Anyway screw Musk and the supporters that blindly worship him.
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I wonder how many people sending him @ replies on this article lol.
I see what you guys are saying but I just find it really hard to believe that rich people don't have our best interests at heart.
""He would get really emotional," this person told me—and that's why he sometimes seemed callous, "because what's one person's feelings compared to the fate of billions? Elon cares a lot about humanity, but he doesn't really care about individual people all that much."
Give me supervillain origins for 500 Alex.
Give me supervillain origins for 500 Alex.
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Sure. But most don't act this belligerent. There are layers of management and good CEOs respect that. Here Musk accused the engineer with barely any evidence.
Moreover, he has no idea how to manage. You don't berate workers in public. And you usually don't berate workers that are not under your purview. He didn't respect the chain of command.
If the worker did make a mistake, and everyone makes mistakes, he should've talked to his manager, and the let manager handle it and provide actionable feedback.
The Musk way kills morale. People are human beings, with widely complex psychological underpinnings. You need to respect that.
Really too bad this guy sucks, as he has some actual good ideas and the money to do them. I guess I keep separating the shitty person and his work
Carrying Steve Jobs' torch.
edut: lol, didn't even read thread and I see I'm late with this comparison
edut: lol, didn't even read thread and I see I'm late with this comparison
I appreciate that another horse based account is using a horse pun.
As a new Model 3 owner, I want Musk to mellow the fuck out so I'm not embarrassed by deplorable shit like this. What is this, the '50s?
Waiting for the defense force
Its not just Elon Musk, people love defending rich people for some reason.
yea people like musk wish it were the 1850's where you could pretty much enslave and murder your factory workers with impunity
He has the same narcissistic personality as Trump, with the Twitter feuds, the rage, the firing people, the way his own staff have to manage his emotions, etc.
Just like how the Trump administration has been bleeding staff, so has Tesla with many top executives leaving in the last few years. Nobody wants to deal with this crap.
Just like how the Trump administration has been bleeding staff, so has Tesla with many top executives leaving in the last few years. Nobody wants to deal with this crap.
I've learned from working with egotistical assholes that the correct answer to "did you fucking do this" is not to ask for clarification, it's just to give them an answer regardless. I've been in similar situations multiple times where asking for specificity only made them more angry and combative. In a case like a Musk, the best thing to do is just to start immediately blabbing out everything you did and didn't do, and letting them use that information however they want.
I'm not sticking up for assholes. I'm just giving a tip in case you ever find yourself in a similar situation with another asshole. You just answer with anything you got, answering a question with a question makes the gorillas mad.
The last asshole I had to deal with who talked like this to me got sued for sexual harassment and fled to another state where he was eventually found and sued again before the last case had even ended.
I'm not sticking up for assholes. I'm just giving a tip in case you ever find yourself in a similar situation with another asshole. You just answer with anything you got, answering a question with a question makes the gorillas mad.
The last asshole I had to deal with who talked like this to me got sued for sexual harassment and fled to another state where he was eventually found and sued again before the last case had even ended.
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Hard to tell. The guy was given no time to answer. He didn't even know that Musk was going to berate him.
Think about it. You're a young entry level worker. The CEO comes to see and then starts berating you without any context. Think about how that would make you fee? The adrenaline rush, the anxiety, the fight or flight response and and so on.
Even if the engineer made a mistake, you're not helping him think straight. He's in flight or fight mode. He's not going to give you an intelligent answer. Musk is a management doofus.
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Yeah, if that ever happened to me, I'd quit on the spot. That's now how professionals should act.
There's more to being a professional than avoiding sexual harassment lol, to bring up another timely thread.
for a guy who didn't found tesla, isn't an engineer himself, and built the company largely on the back of government funding he gets a lot of credit for being an innovative genius without whom none of this massive "success" couldn't have happened
In the film version of this, this scene will begin with Musk doing a line of DRUGS and another bump of HARD DRUGS, smash cut to pupils dilating and Musk leaning back in his chair.
Having now read the entire article, its both very interesting and highly terrifying that he can behave as he does with little to no pushback. His companies are doing great things, huge things and I am big fan of both Tesla and SpaceX, but Musk is a lunatic. That he may well be the driving force behind the great work that both companies has done is both remarkable and astonishing.
did I say he did? era has a weird way of inserting words into other posters mouths to make them feel superior huh.
the build quality is fantastic, as is witnessed in the fact of multiple incidents of crashes happening and people walking away scot-free, i.e. MKBHD as of recent.
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Jobs didn't sink his whole company and get ousted as CEO while high on speed just to impress his girlfriend, though...
Jobs didn't sink his whole company and get ousted as CEO while high on speed just to impress his girlfriend, though...