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WindowsCentral: Xbox rumor roundup: 'Xbox Series S' Lockhart, new Xbox headset, May event, and more
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It'll probably work similarly to how it does with Xbox One X in that it'll still render at the same internal resolution and downsample it to support the resolution your TV can handle. As such, you'll probably get better image quality with Xbox Series X on a 1080p TV compared to Xbox Series S.
Yep. That's what I'm getting from Rand, Tim and Jez. May for console stuff... June for the E3 games. LET'S GO!
Xbox Series X is probably a lock at $499, how much do you think they can shave off the price for Series S?
$349 is as low as I can see it realistically going. Cutting your GPU, some RAM and the disc drive isn't going to save you $200.
$349 is as low as I can see it realistically going. Cutting your GPU, some RAM and the disc drive isn't going to save you $200.
I'm feeling antsy. Really can't wait to see the blowout for Series X and series s if true. The games, the features, the showcases, the spectacle of it all. Exciting times.
I am assuming the Lockhart will become my bedroom console after a year or two, with a nice price drop. Day one for Series X.
Even if you look at this forum, the vast majority of PS4 players are running the Regular machine on a 1080p TV.
Microsoft will know what the actual stats are too based upon the 30million+ Xbox One's out in the wild
If they want to sell their game to a broad audience, it will also offer a non RT version.
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I love reading through threads like this. It really shows up all the people that haven't a clue what they're talking about.
With all the stuff going on in the world at the minute & the financial constraints that some people will feel as this year develops - this entry level next generation console could be Microsoft's ace up the sleeve.
A lot of people may not be able to afford a $499 box this fall so a $299 box could well prove to be a stroke of genius on Microsoft's part.
With all the stuff going on in the world at the minute & the financial constraints that some people will feel as this year develops - this entry level next generation console could be Microsoft's ace up the sleeve.
A lot of people may not be able to afford a $499 box this fall so a $299 box could well prove to be a stroke of genius on Microsoft's part.
That's not the conversation people are having. An affordable console option is all well and good, but would that console set the baseline and limit the potential or scope of games for the entire generation? That's the debate.
Yes dlss like feature would great but I don't think it would be built in to Lockhart. A future revision with such feature maybe a possibility.
Where did you hear that information when it's still only in beta on pc?
yeah that's my feeling on it too. I don't see Lockhart doing anything other than why does this exist?
Do you really expect the PS5 being noticeably cheaper and any console being sold for 600$? This doesn't make much sense and both companies talked about price before.
The GPU of Lockhart is better.
What limitations? CPU and SSD are the game changer this gen and Lockhart has similar CPU and SSD to PS5 and Xbox Series X.
Crysis was ahead of it's time and pushed graphics beyond anything we've seen. We got memes out of it and Crytek still could port an benchmarks PC game build with nothing except PC in mind to PS3 and 360.
Graphics scale and Lockhart will have everything to develop new level design and gameplay opportunity just like Series X and PS5. You will get the same experience with lower resolution, graphics and sometimes performance.
Star Citizen runs on an Radeon R9 290X.
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I don't think I've seen a single person who is arguing against a cheaper console in light of Series X being a costly behemoth. People just want it to be beefier or at least beefy enough to make sense as a standalone gaming platform in 2025 or 2026.
$350 is definitely the sweet spot. Any higher and it'd be better to just get the better one, while any lower would probably mean taking a big loss.
The initial rumors from over a year ago (which have been right so far), suggested the price for it will be $249 (I think) and $499 for the X.
Only if you don't brute force power with no custom and smart design that gives you more with less. /s
There's spin on both sides, though, to be honest.
I just hope Lockhart exists, we are in for a great generation either way.
For sure, I hope they keep the same white/black theme going.MS should really keep this design language though for lockhart if its feasible. Best looking consoles of all time. Style is timeless.
I really want to see what The Initiative is cooking for next-gen, hopefully they have a trailer next month. Playground Games next project is more than enough for excitement though so there's no way I can skip the showcase.
It's a dumb debate considering none of you know what the baseline is even with the consoles already announced. Also considering devs know how develop for more than one sku...since they've been doing it for decades.
s on the 32 led in the bedroom
x on the 55 oled in the living room
all problems solved
thank you ms
x on the 55 oled in the living room
all problems solved
thank you ms
It exist for people who can't afford the higher end system lmao wdym
So people who can't afford the Series X can still get a next gen experience. It isn't rocket science. This place does not represent every gamer out there.
Not a good reason. So far all the rumors for Lockhart are not looking positively and if it's priced to high than its an even worst decision. It needs be priced right and I doubt it will be.
How on earth is MS fitting a 8C 3.6Ghz Zen 2, 12GB GDDR6 RAM, 4TF GPU, 500GB+ NVME drive into a $249 box?
This thing has the same specs as the Xbox One X except better RAM, better CPU, and a NVME drive. Yet it's going to cost half of what the Xbox One X does?
Just hop into any thread about PC gaming to see how ignorant some people are about others financial situations. You'd think you're an idiot for not dropping a grand on a gaming PC
You're saying that the rumored specs "are not looking positively", but that the system will be "priced too high"?
Do you see why that sounds odd?
They haven't even shown games running on either console yet. People need to relax lol
A couple things to note about the demoed version of Minecraft ray tracing on Xbox.
1) it was a technical demo to showcase the hardware accelerated raytracing potential of XSX
2) this version of Minecraft is currently in active development, and does not represent the complete product
3) it was ported by a single engineer in a month to the Xbox Series X
And most importantly, this demo doesn't utilize any machine learning upscaling, like the current NVidia Minecraft RTX beta. With DLSS, native 1080p Minecraft RTX is upscaled to 4K. So maybe it won't be 4K/60fps, but I could see it being fully path traced at 1440p 'DLSS' at 60fps
Yeah, that would be a shame for MS to purposefully build a price conscious box and then not price it to be a price conscious box.
Yes and they won't be buying Lockhart
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Yeah, that would be a shame for MS to purposefully build a price conscious box and then not price it to be a price conscious box.
[/QUOTE]they did it with the all digital version of the s. It was overpriced.
Though the question is can you really get a next gen experience as you put it with just a 4TF machine when even One X is more powerful and with recent sales really cheap. Also let's not forget no true net gen exclusives for < 2years too.
It's a perfectly good reason. You just don't like it because you never had any intention of getting it in the first place. Not everybody has a bunch of disposable income.
The One X isn't more powerful. People need to stop with this crap.
Xbox One X was just on sale for $299.
$299 is what the Lockhart should be priced at. Never believed the $249 part, as the Reddit leak said it might be a stream box, which it isn't.
So we have two cases here: third party and first party. Third party will have to support older GPUs on PC anyway, don't see where one different target that is also similar to PC in terms of hardware and devkit anyway will be a huge problem.
First party is even the same as Microsoft will put their games on PC, too.
This is "caring for devs" under a false flag.
It's a perfect reason. Affordability is the perfect reason to make a cheaper version of an expensive product.
What is happening here.
In the IGN interview with Phil Spencer he said manufacturing was coming back online, and it overall sounded like there wasn't going to be much disruption to the manufacturing side of things. He sounded more worried about delays on the software side due to working from home and how that disrupts the entire process.
So why would they buy the PS5 or XSX? Forcing people to buy expensive consoles is a terrible idea.
Lockhart + Game Pass Ultimate is a winning combo for a huge amount of people in this demographic.
Its very disappointing that the lockhart system is becoming a reality. This will make it necessary for multi-platform titles be able to run on a 4tf system, and who knows what other limitations (memory,cpu,io) it has. In effect next generation xbox titles and multiplatform titles unless they decide to not support the lockhart are as good as a 4TF card, with the games on the Series X mostly receiving resolution bumps or improved RT.