I definitely know people who won't be able to afford the XSX and will get this instead.
They don't care about graphics they just want to play COD and Destiny
They don't care about graphics they just want to play COD and Destiny
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WindowsCentral: Xbox rumor roundup: 'Xbox Series S' Lockhart, new Xbox headset, May event, and more
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Yeah that's what mark cerny even said. He said teraflops and cu counts don't matter. Its all about that ssd for next gen. And lockhard will have a really fast ssd.
Are devs going to have to build Series X games with PS5's limitations in mind? Weaker CPU, weaker GPU, slower RAM?
Kinda hoping they do the entire game unveil on Lockhart secretly and drop the bomb and price at the end.
Nah Cerny already said TF's and CU count doesnt matter! So its fine as is!
I think if people keep wishing hard enough this might become true.
The difference between technical name and communicative name is well-trodden ground in branding.
Microsoft saw people referring to the Xbox 360 as "the 360" for years. They want people to say "the Xbox." That's their brand.
Automakers have all done the same thing. The goal is to get you to say "my Acura," not "my Integra," which is why they went to alphanumeric model designations along with every other luxury automaker.
Because they see a low number and have absolutely no clue as to what that means outside of lower equals bad. Too many people willing to engage on a subject they're entirely ignorant about.
Yep I don't think how many people realize how popular a next gen cheaper option is for many folks.
I get that some people are worried, mostly because this is so unusual. I see comments like "this is going to hold back next gen for multiplatform games." but let's not fool ourselves here, Sony will undoubtedly remain the market leader next gen, I don't see that changing at all. I bet most of the multiplatform games will target PS5, not XSX and certainly not Lockhart. So why worry?
And honestly, if upcoming actual next gen Xbox exclusive like Hellblade II and Fable look amazing visually once they show them.....I see no reason anymore to be against Lockhart. Let's wait and see and really let's not jump to conclusions.
And honestly, if upcoming actual next gen Xbox exclusive like Hellblade II and Fable look amazing visually once they show them.....I see no reason anymore to be against Lockhart. Let's wait and see and really let's not jump to conclusions.
Developers are presumably already making games that scale to all sorts of levels due to PC versions. There aren't instantly going to be versions of games that require ray tracing cards because they'd sell no copies on PC.
All first party Xbox developers are going to be pushing out PC versions of their games where most settings will be scalable. Nearly all third party developers are already pushing out PC versions of their games where most settings are scalable. Lockhart isn't introducing anything to Xbox developers that they aren't already doing. That means resolution, texture quality, shadow quality, etc, are already made to be modified so that more affordable GPUs can still run these games.
They are all already doing this. It is a "magic bullet" that allows me to play a game on my RX580 while my friend plays on his GTX2080.
That's not how it works.
Of course it is. Resolution is currently one of the biggest performance killer. That's how it has been working for fucking decades.
You want to think about baseline ? How do you explain that a game such as The Witcher 3 runs on hardware slower than Xbox One ?
How do you explain it can run on Switch despite being 3 times slower ?
You need to stop with that "baseline" thinking and "secret sauce" PR bullshit console makers spout.
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Finally some news on Lockhart & a couple of games. I hope it's planed for early may, can't wait
If the rumors are true, I think the Series S could be a huge success. 1080p with good anti-aliasing still looks great to me, and if this thing is on par with the XB1X in terms of power*, plus it has a similar CPU and SSD to the Series X, it could be a killer value. Bear in mind that 4 TF of RDNA 2 is closer to 6 TF of GCN4 than the simple 4 vs. 6 comparison would suggest. Increased GPU horsepower is great and all, but the chief benefits of this new generation are unquestionably the move to super-fast solid-state storage and the long-overdue upgrade to some actually capable CPUs. People are definitely going to notice the massively reduced load times, snappier Xbox OS menus and the ability to seamlessly switch between games.
I really hope this fan mockup ends up being close to the real thing (aside from the lack of a disc drive which I think would be a big mistake for a more affordable model such as this). A GameCube-sized console with the specs of a modern 1080p gaming PC? Sign me up.
Oh, damn. I'd throw one of those on my office desks with a PS5 up in the 4K big screen upstairs...
See, I think this could be pretty big as a second console. Not necessarily stealing gamers from Sony, but ADDING them to the Xbox ecosystem.
Good point.
According to Sony fans, Teraflops don't matter. It might therefore even make sense to keep the Xbox One S around for a few years.
Next-gen already is, no way MS would cripple Lockhart like that to save a few bucks.
MS should have a blowout on games. Then reveal at the end it was all shown using lockhart kit. Shocked faces. hahahaha.
Microsoft shouldn't keep calling it "Xbox Series X" in their official PR messaging if they want us to call it "the Xbox". Plenty of people call Nintendo and Playstation consoles "the Nintendo" and "the Playstation" too, btw. Happened to prior Xbox consoles as well. I don't see how the Series X marks a big change in that regard.
We'll talk again in a year or so, I guess. From what I've seen thus far "Series X", "XSX and "Xbox SX seem to be far more used than "Xbox", at least.
MS have had the most powerful console and the the most affordable one since late 2017 when they released the X1X and discounted the Xbox One S.
Add to that a massive upgrade in CPU, RAM and SSD speeds, even if the number 4 is less than 6, it will still be a solid upgrade over anything else before it. A solid baseline for a new generation.
MS has started this coming gen super strong. They have been firing on all cylinders with almost a perfect presentation and communication. completely opposite of Xbox One. MS will have a much much stronger and better debut.
Developers will always build for the lowest common denominator, that's how it's always been. I don't understand where people are getting the idea that this time things will be the complete opposite. If MS mandates that all Series X games have to run on Lockhart, Lockhart will be that baseline spec.
Games today aren't being built with the GTX2080 in mind. Or the RX580. We're still dealing with current-gen games built for a sub-2TF GCN baseline and scaling up, not down.
Games will be designed for nvm ssd's, zen 2, rdna 2 feature set, rt capabilities. Lockhart is next gen in all the ways that matter, and games will scale just fine to it.
If you don't know anything about the topic stop with comments like that.
I feel like this kind of talk is way overblown. Again, it sounds insane that a company would invest that much money in a series X only to completely undercut it when it comes to game development with a weaker system.
Lol ;D
Good news re Lockhart, 1080p gamers being able to jump in with beautiful looking next gen gamers at a small, affordable cost.
This is speculation on WC part, as they say quite clearly, have no performance info about lockhart other than the 4TF.
Though RT is just like any other resource, you scale based on resolution, distance, etc, and it's already done on high end hardware so it's just a matter of moving the thresholds around, not unlike devs will do coming from SX to PS5
New designs and experiences will mostly be based off better cpu and ssd which lockhart has. Lockhart experience will be next gen at a cheaper price.
Because launching updated consoles this far into a generation have changed things considerably in the past?
As long as Lockhart has
RDNA2 GPU
Zen 2 8c/16t
RAM faster than One X
The same SSD
I don't see how it can hold back gaming. The target system will be the Series X. Lockhart will be a lower resolution, lower quality settings version of that game.
RDNA2 GPU
Zen 2 8c/16t
RAM faster than One X
The same SSD
I don't see how it can hold back gaming. The target system will be the Series X. Lockhart will be a lower resolution, lower quality settings version of that game.