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Windows Central: Xbox Series X: What do game developers say about next-gen? We asked several for their thoughts.
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BFV is pretty quick on my mediocre laptop with a mediocre SSD. 5-10 seconds instead of 60-80 on console.
It is happening soon. Next month, and over the next few months. Like always, but just more spread out because of the worldwide pandemic going on.
That's the same as saying they are cutting 160m console players. PC gamers get the same time frame for buying a SSD, as console players buying a next gen console
console players are used to it, pc gamers do not take kindly to being walled off of things. Xbox game studios games are generally very well optimized for a broad range of PC specs and if Lockhart is a thing that definitely won't change.
The first games to require SSDs on PC will likely be big budget AAA games known for pushing PC hardware. PC games should know what to expect, and understand that their systems' capability won't last indefinitely. PC gamers have adapted before, and they'll adapt again. The move to multi-core CPUs, VRAM requirements, etc. Each of those has required a significant investment, but that's part of PC gaming.
I expect mechanical HDD's and 2GB or less VRAM are both on the cutting room floor, and I'd think PC gamers in this situation will be looking to upgrade in order to play the games that want to play.
Have you seen that game? It's empty and still runs like a dog.
Those customers will upgrade their hardware like they've always done.
Lockhart has a NVMe SSD.
Again, SSDs are mandatory for next generation games. They are a huge part of the generational leap. Scaling and optimization can take you from 4.8 GB/s and instant access to 2.2 GB/s, maybe even 500 MB/s, and instant access, but it can't get you to 70 MB/s and 50ms to access.
Wdym this kind of stuff has definitely happend before. Not like games are still made with last gen gpus in mind.
Moon studios is excited to bring ori to 120 fps on series x lol mentioned by thomas before, oh boy, that will be a treat!!!
*googles 120hz monitors with hdmi 2.1
*googles it all wrong because i have no idea what i'm supposed to look for with a monitor.
*googles 120hz monitors with hdmi 2.1
*googles it all wrong because i have no idea what i'm supposed to look for with a monitor.
There is no way devs do that. Let the entire generation pass without taking advantage of the main thing they wanted.
Just goes to show XSX isn't brute forcing anything. The tech in XSX is using new very advanced features that pushes rendering capabilities even further than before and more efficiently
It's not about being used to it. Console gamers recognize themself that it's time to move on fron 7 year old hardware to new hardware, they buy the next console because they want to, not because they need to. And it the PC space, it isnt much different than moving on from a outdatet gpu to a new gpu, but instead it's now about a outdatet hdd to a ssd.
And I agree, I just don't see SSD adoption on PC as a requirement happening soon but it will happen.
You will see this in small, experimental indie games probably, but not for big budget AAA games since those will mostly be cross gen.
Hell yeah. Next gen is going to be incredible. I can't wait.
I like how you think developers are going to prioritize things they want (SSD) over actually selling their games to as many people as possible. These devs have formed an SSD death cult!
Exactly. All the time. Minimum requirements going up is nothing new.
Yup. Broken record time....but my wish in the speculation threads was suspend, resume multiple games. When MS dropped that bomb I lost it, lol.
Hype, can't wait to get my hands on this.
Why are you trying to derail the thread?
Why are you trying to derail the thread?
For AAA(A) games it will be before. 2-3 years is my guess.
But there isn't much AAA(A) multiplatforms games per year.
Look like with Ram GDDR6 at 560Go/s and Velocity Architecture (SFS,DirectStorage,BCpack,Custom SSD) first Party developers will have a lot of room to push the Series X.
The raw power is already incredible but it can do much better beyond the hardware.
Mesh shaders
VRS
DXR
Velocity Architecture
lot of innovative software tech.
The raw power is already incredible but it can do much better beyond the hardware.
Mesh shaders
VRS
DXR
Velocity Architecture
lot of innovative software tech.
The UE4 sharing between studios is gonna be great also. Like Coalition is probably the best now UE4, combine that with Ninja Theory, Rare, Playground, Obsidian, The Initiative.
I think they'll effectively be mandatory. As in the games will still run, but you'll get frequent loading screens at the most awkward places. We'll have minimum requirements, recommended requirements, and then a blurb saying 'SSD highly recommended.'
That's a decade away. Which is why the PS5 will benefit most from first party games. Third parties won't put in the work to really get the extra muscle out of the PS5's SSD.
Of course, because games are developed with HDD @ 5400/rpm in mind.
Oh really? I never knew that before, thanks for enlightening me.
*rolls eyes*
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And Compulsion, Double Fine, InXile, and Undead Labs, crazy how many studios they have working on the same engine.
Then why are you complaining about anonymous sources like its a taboo?
Edit; To clarify, I might have misread your original post - it came to me as if you were throwing shade at reporters protecting their sources.
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It's almost like Mark Cerny prioritized and gave them exactly what they wanted this whole time...
I think some people are underestimating just how much those 2 things together (i.e., super fast SSD + hardware/software accelerated I/O processing) will contribute to new possibilities in game design and gameplay-based interactions. Nothing like this is implemented or utilized to any significant extent currently, not even on PC.
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People who actually know about developing games instead of just talking about developing games.
