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Will the Ps5 support 1440p?
- Thread starter Hummel003
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I weirdly think it would be a higher priority for this gen, given the VRR/120fps support that's part the new feature-set. 1440p monitors are basically the most cost-effective way to get access to those. I know PC =/= Console, but there are more than 3X as many users at 1440p than 4K on the Steam hardware survey.
This is so annoying.
So between a 1080p 144hz and a 4K 60Hz I guess the latter is better for console, right?
So between a 1080p 144hz and a 4K 60Hz I guess the latter is better for console, right?
In theory yes, but if the genres you play tend to be feasible for 120fps modes, the former could easily be someone's preference.
I agree but this and the XH9005 bluriness issue at 120hz are a bit concerning.
There are 2, they support 4K 120hz and (8K) , so 1440p is useless for it
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It supports 4K and 8K with 120hz/
Part of the reason people wanted 1440p output was because their 4K TV supported 1440p @ 120hz.
That means that they have to either got 1080p@120hz or 4K 60 when there are games that may be somewhere between
If your display can accepted a higher signal and downscale it, can you override this with your Playstation? (this can be achieved with an Xbox One S/X for example.) My plasma can accept a 4K signal, but does not have native 4K resolution. I'd wondering is this is something the PS4 Pro is currently capable of?
Edit: Looks like this seems to be the case based on an earlier post.
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So if I play on my 1440p monitor, it's going to down sample to 1080p only to be stretched to 1440p? That seems so far from ideal. I really didn't want to purchase a new monitor but it looks like I'll need to in order to get the best experience. Damn.
Dreamcast supported progressive scan VGA output prior to the PS2 generation. And I agree with the 360 comparison. They had SO many options.
Do you have an example of an actual HDTV that supports 1440p @120hz but does not support 4K @ 120hz?
And people were attacking me months ago when I said Sony were very unlikely to support 1440p or FreeSync (1440p FreeSync being the ideal for affordable gaming monitors).
It's worth noting that Sony's own televisions have limited 1440p support compared to many others too (no 1440p120 support).
Xbox Series X will be doing 1440p120 FreeSync on affordable monitors, while PS5 will be stuck at 1080p60 on the same display. It's garbage.
Yes, but none with HDMI 2.1 yet - so it won't work with the consoles.
It's not a standard video (TV) resolution.
It's worth noting that Sony's own televisions have limited 1440p support compared to many others too (no 1440p120 support).
There's always someone on Era willing to defend anything.
Xbox Series X will be doing 1440p120 FreeSync on affordable monitors, while PS5 will be stuck at 1080p60 on the same display. It's garbage.
Samsung Q9FN
Quite a few more recent TV's without HDMI 2.1 actually
those with ps5s currently have an embargo and cannot talk about this topic at the moment.
Thanks, if it's part of the HDMI standard then PS5 should fully support it. People should pressure them if they are holding back support
All the 2018 and 2019 Samsung QLEDs (very popular TVs). Q6FN/Q7FN/Q8FN/Q9FN/Q60R/Q70R/Q80R/Q90R all have native 1440p120 support over HDMI 2.0.
With this and all the people who use gaming monitors for consoles, Sony should really get on it. It's a nice alternative to play 120fps without investing in a brand new hdmi 2.1 display.
The HDMI standards don't dictate supported resolutions, the other bodies such as CTA and VESA make the recommendations.
But as mentioned, Sony do have their reasons for not supporting it (at this point), so it might not be a purely technical or standardization thing.
Is a 4k 60 Hz monitor then the way to go if you have to play on a monitor? It seems like it based off this.
99.9% certain that this would be super easy for Sony to implement in a firmware patch as long as it's just downsampling from 4k and not a new native resolution target. For games not running natively on 4k/120Hz, but internal 1600p/120Hz upscaled to 4k (internally by the game) to then downscale it to 1440p/120Hz on the system level sounds kinda idiotic, but it's probably the only easy solution and it wouldn't surprise me if that's how it works on the Microsoft consoles too.
They didn't for the PS4Pro though which is more evidence they may not want to do that.
That's my TV. This could have a huge impact on where I buy multiplatform games if they *don't* support 1440p 120hz on PS5.
I think the reality of it is if you are wanting 120hz or VRR type experiences from games, then the chances are the Xbox versions are going to the the one to get.
I guess we shall see when comparisons are done, but the additional grunt the Xbox has is not going to be wasted.
VRR is hugely important to me on any game that doesn't run at a locked framerate. I was harping on about inconsistent frametimes before Gsync was even a thing. It's going to depend on the game, etc, but the VRR window at 1440p 120 hz is FAR wider on my Q9FN than it is at 4K 60 hz, and I'm absolutely planning on enjoying Dirt 5's 120 hz mode. If choosing between buying it on PS5 and Series X is choosing between 1080p and 1440p because of supported outputs, you can imagine that I'm going to buy it on XSX.
I can also see a game struggling to stay north of 48 fps, being one where I'd rather drop resolution to get VRR than being stuck at 4K with judder.
I was planning on buying a new TV next summer when this one is paid off, but with the hybrid QD OLED stuff looking like it won't be launching until late next year, I'll probably be sticking with this set for at least a good while.
Sorry, that is exactly what I'm thinking too. Should have added that to my post. It would be minimal effort to add it via downsampling => so there must be another reason they're not doing it.
Also, I'd love to see the console manufacturers to add optional support for ultrawide monitors, just in case the game developer wants to support that option on their own (which most do for PC anyway, so they have code already), but I'm relatively sure that's not gonna happen.
Much of what you've just said here is not accurate. Devs don't have to worry at all about whether or not their games support 1440p if it's downsampled from 4K (like it is on Xbox). In fact, Xbox could support any and all 16:9 resolutions this way. That's how the 360 worked. Confusion from ultrawide monitor owners is a non-issue... and other consoles have supported monitors for years, with plenty of us using monitors as opposed to TVs to play our games on.
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That's how Microsoft did it on Xbox One.
It's really not something that would take a whole lot of effort on Sony's part, and it wouldn't put any strain on developers or literally anyone else involved with making games for the console either, so there's no real reason for them not to include the feature.
One of the features I was looking in a TV waa 1440P support, I'd have hope that the Sony's newest X900H set would have considering it's HDMI 2.1 capabilities but I guess not.
Even factoring checkerboard 4K, it might make sense for some devs to natively target 1440P to get the resolution increase as well as potential higher targeted framerates but seems this will likely only be a thing on the Series S or X.
I used to own a Sony Bravia X800D which was a middling HDR10 set. Once I built my new PC back in May of 2019, typically always using my TV as a PC monitor and targeting 2560x1440 for most games on my PC, but ultimately let to a crappy upscale to 4K and not have native output support for 1440P. I don't have this problem on my LG CX though. Playing most of my library at 1440P @ 120hz is a dream and once I get an RTX 3080 I can probably get 4K@120 on quite a few games, notably Doom Eternal, as for the rest. 4K@60 will be fantastic too. My RTX 2080 can't even do that.
I want to hope the best being an upcoming PS5 owner. Having native 1440P support as a lot more TVs are supporting this res would have been a nice option to have.
Maybe in a future firmware update will allow for this possibility. Guess I have to wait and see.
Even factoring checkerboard 4K, it might make sense for some devs to natively target 1440P to get the resolution increase as well as potential higher targeted framerates but seems this will likely only be a thing on the Series S or X.
I used to own a Sony Bravia X800D which was a middling HDR10 set. Once I built my new PC back in May of 2019, typically always using my TV as a PC monitor and targeting 2560x1440 for most games on my PC, but ultimately let to a crappy upscale to 4K and not have native output support for 1440P. I don't have this problem on my LG CX though. Playing most of my library at 1440P @ 120hz is a dream and once I get an RTX 3080 I can probably get 4K@120 on quite a few games, notably Doom Eternal, as for the rest. 4K@60 will be fantastic too. My RTX 2080 can't even do that.
I want to hope the best being an upcoming PS5 owner. Having native 1440P support as a lot more TVs are supporting this res would have been a nice option to have.
Maybe in a future firmware update will allow for this possibility. Guess I have to wait and see.
What monitor do you own?
I have the Dell S3220DGF. I wonder if that can accept a 4K signal.
With that logic, 1080p shouldn't be supported either.
Both 1080p and 1440p are basic resolutions at this point, and thus, both should be supported by PS5. A lot more games this gen will be rendered at or closer to 1440p than 2160p, I can guarantee that.
Truly zero reason to be against PS5 supporting 1440p output.
Era stop, it's becoming too hard to separate sarcasm by real posts :'(
they even supported 16x10 resolutions like 1680x1050, with black bars but correct AR :) but that was added later in 2009 or so.
Did you mean the LG 27GL83-A? I have this monitor and want to know whether it'll be blurry. I'll then have to choose between selling my PS5 or having to buy another monitor (which I really don't want to as I'll have to play the panel lottery game again)...
Nope, it's the A-B from Amazon. I believe they're the same thing though.
It's not *as* blurry at 4k versus 1080p but it's still not sharp.
I played TLOU2 and Ghost of Tsushima on it and let's just say playing on my old 1080 60 monitor would've looked better.
That's rubbish, a decent 4k monitor will end up costing about as much as a PS5.