Xbox 360 supported for personal experience with bringing the console at friends' houses bakc in the day:
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848x480
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1280x720
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1360x768
1600x1900
1920x1080
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Will the Ps5 support 1440p?
- Thread starter Hummel003
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Xbox 360 supported for personal experience with bringing the console at friends' houses bakc in the day:
640x480
720x480
720x576
848x480
1024x768
1280x720
1280x768
1280x1024
1360x768
1600x1900
1920x1080
Xenon was a magic box.
My guess is that it will still only support the most common TV resolutions - those being 720p, 1080p and 4K. Microsoft seems to be leading the dance with regards to supported output resolutions.
This might come as a shock but playing a console on a 1440p PC monitor instead of your regular living room TV is super niche in the grand scheme of things.
This might come as a shock but playing a console on a 1440p PC monitor instead of your regular living room TV is super niche in the grand scheme of things.
The fact that Sony hasn't commented on this yet is worrying.
Particularly if they go down the route of supporting higher frame rates and the main way to get the benefit of that at the moment is via PC monitors.
Would it need a hardware change or is it the sort of thing that could theoretically be patched in?
Particularly if they go down the route of supporting higher frame rates and the main way to get the benefit of that at the moment is via PC monitors.
Would it need a hardware change or is it the sort of thing that could theoretically be patched in?
If I had to guess, Ps5 will go to the 1800p/2160p target, with shiny graphics and stable framerate. Which for me is perfect, really, at the moment.
If a Ps5 pro runs 8k...I'm still not gonna buy a 8k TV.
If a Ps5 pro runs 8k...I'm still not gonna buy a 8k TV.
Why did we skip 1440p or rather why did TVs just skip it? Can't remember a TV ever being advertised with 1440p only PC monitors.
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That's it in a nutshell. Those are the three consumer electronics resolution, QHD is a computer monitor resolution. You want a 4k HDR hdmi 2.1 tv that supports VRR for next gen. There will be cheap ones next year.
Ummm, this has nothing to do with the thread topic :P
It's specifically about if PS5 will support a resolution mainly found in computer monitors.
The PS4 Pro, despite being able to do 4K, did not downsample to 1440p for instance.
sorry, might have posted in the wrong thread, many windows opened while waiting for meetings...but why wouldn't it support 1440p?
The simple fact is we currently don't know. Microsoft did with the One, but Sony does not with the PS4.
Hopefully this information gets released soon, as it affects the displays people can use with PS5.
So this means the PS4Pro renders at "4K", downsamples it to 1080p and then the monitor upscales it to 1440p? Oof... I have a base model PS4. Sure hope the PS5 handles this better as I also have a nice 1440p monitor.
This is a common misconception perpetuated by the fact that 4K = 4x 1080p. It suggests that this is the origin of the naming scheme, when in fact it's just a confusing coincidence. The actual origin of the 4K naming scheme comes the (approximate) number of horizontal pixels.
For instance, if you look at the supported resolutions for high-end cameras, you'll find that something like "6K" or "7K" isn't a single specific resolution. They'll list a whole bunch of resolutions matching different aspect rations, and they'll all be "6K" for example whenever the approximate number of horizontal pixels is in the 6 thousand range.
I'll list some commercially available resolutions with their branded "-K" designation here, and you'll notice that using "K" to mean "how many times 1080p" only really applies to a single case. For everything else, it refers to "approximate thousands of horizontal pixels".
4K = 3840 x 2160 (4x 1080p; approximately 4K horizontal pixels)
5K = 5120 x 2880 (7x 1080p; approximately 5K horizontal pixels)
6K = 6016 x 3384 (10x 1080p; approximately 6K horizontal pixels) Apple XDR example
8K =7680 x 4320 (16x 1080p; approximately 8K horizontal pixels)
This brings us to to 1440p. It makes no sense to call it 2K. If anything, 1080p is 2K (since 1920 x 1080 has approximately 2K horizontal pixels).
1440p (2560 x 1440) would more aptly be a "2.5K" resolution.
Hopefully it will support both 1440p and FreeSync-over-HDMI.
That would open up 120Hz support for a lot of HDMI 2.0 monitors out there, without requiring HDMI 2.1
XSX/XSS can do this, but I have doubts about the PS5. Sony has typically only supported standardized TV formats.
Or maybe because 2560 starts with a 2…
Either way, 2K is a cinema format defined by its 2048px width - which is nearest to 1080p, not 1440p.
For all the Americans out there: the K is short for Kilo. Kilo means one thousand.
4K refers to a format which is 4096 pixels wide - and was co-opted as a shorthand for 3840x2160.
That would open up 120Hz support for a lot of HDMI 2.0 monitors out there, without requiring HDMI 2.1
XSX/XSS can do this, but I have doubts about the PS5. Sony has typically only supported standardized TV formats.
My guess is that it's because 1440p is roughly half of 2160p, so 2K must be half of 4K?
Or maybe because 2560 starts with a 2…
Either way, 2K is a cinema format defined by its 2048px width - which is nearest to 1080p, not 1440p.
Are you going to start calling 8K 16K because it's 16x 1080p?
For all the Americans out there: the K is short for Kilo. Kilo means one thousand.
4K refers to a format which is 4096 pixels wide - and was co-opted as a shorthand for 3840x2160.
This hurts to read.
Basically, yeah. I also hope PS5 has 1440p as an output too. If games are rendering at 4k, it seems strange to not support a lower, reasonably popular resolution, in the same aspect ratio. It's not like we're asking for 21:9 or something.
To be honest, though, I'd quite like to see 1440p TVs in the 40-inch range, where 4K may not be entirely beneficial. PS5 supporting it may go some way to us getting that.
The "K" terminology refers to horizontal resolution. I have seen the "2K" term used incorrectly on forums and reddit, and then in some marketing and PR it comes from a misunderstanding of the technical origin of 4K. 4K means ~4000 lines of horizontal resolution, and comes from the film and TV industry. It has existed as a standard before 4K TVs were released.
2K is an existing technical term and refers to the non-TV film standard for digital projection with a resolution of 2048x1080 - as someone pointed out much closer to 1080p or 1920x1080 than 2560x1440.
en.wikipedia.org
2K is an existing technical term and refers to the non-TV film standard for digital projection with a resolution of 2048x1080 - as someone pointed out much closer to 1080p or 1920x1080 than 2560x1440.
2K resolution - Wikipedia
No official word yet but I'm thinking it might not, unfortunately.
Matt Walker talking about DMC5 SE's new modes. There's
-Ray Tracing ON, 4k, 30fps
-Ray Tracing ON, 1080p, 60fps
-Ray Tracing OFF, resolution not stated (some saying this is also 1080p), 120fps
No 1440p option. It COULD just be this singular game, but since the PS4 Pro didn't support 1440p, I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't. Just disappointed. Really hoping I'm just wrong
The UE5 demo was 1440p on a ps5 but I wouldn't be surprised if it was only for that single demo and not ps5 as a whole.
Really don't want to pay more than 700 canadian dollars if a previous gen game can only do high frame rates at 1080p..
Matt Walker talking about DMC5 SE's new modes. There's
-Ray Tracing ON, 4k, 30fps
-Ray Tracing ON, 1080p, 60fps
-Ray Tracing OFF, resolution not stated (some saying this is also 1080p), 120fps
No 1440p option. It COULD just be this singular game, but since the PS4 Pro didn't support 1440p, I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't. Just disappointed. Really hoping I'm just wrong
The UE5 demo was 1440p on a ps5 but I wouldn't be surprised if it was only for that single demo and not ps5 as a whole.
Really don't want to pay more than 700 canadian dollars if a previous gen game can only do high frame rates at 1080p..
For me, it's not about what internal resolution the game is rendering, I'm interested in what the hardware puts out from a "signal to my TV over HDMI 2.1" kind of way.
My TV can do 120hz in 1080p and 1440p but at 4K it can only do 60hz. So I want the PS5 to have an option to output 1440p at 120hz with VRR.
Now internally, every game could come up with similar options as you are stating. And games can still do all that and the hardware still output at 1440p. That's all I want.
Microsoft doesn't sell displays to my knowledge, yet they have the option to output native 1440p.
Now what I'm curious about is, other than 1440p for the PS5, will there be any support for ultra wide displays from either console? Yep, I know, 99% likely not happening lol... Maybe down the line though? ☺️
Sony's monitor support on both PS3 and PS4 has been none existent while Microsoft's has been surprisingly comprehensive on both 360 and Xbox One. I wouldn't bank on 1440p support on PS5.
I'm curious too: Let's say there isn't 1440p support at launch, would that be something they could patch in later or would it be more set in stone on the hardware level?
Apparently not
Bumping this to say that I've heard, off the record, that PS5 does *not* support 1440p resolution. The person in question had their PS5 hooked up to a 1080p display, and the available resolutions were 720p, 1080i, 1080p, and 2160p. 2160p was greyed out and unavailable, implying that 1440p isn't supported at all.
Unless Sony says otherwise, the dream is dead.
Unless Sony says otherwise, the dream is dead.
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uh oh.
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If 1440p isn't an option, it shows they probably weren't thinking a lot about pc monitor connectivity then which would be unfortunate.
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I think you meant 2k up top and also this news really bums me out :(
So if you use a 1440p 120 HZ monitor you're forced to go down to 1080p? That really sucks- here's hoping they add support in an update.
This shouldnt be a surprise. Some of us were trying to tell people dont believe BenQ marketing material in the other thread
For anyone who wants 120fps/freesync support, computer monitors are a) already there and b) will be the only way to do so at <$500 probably by the end of 2021. I'd say there's certainly a market there, especially for the WFH and college crowd.
I use the same monitor for my PC and my consoles. It's frustrating that PS4 Pro and now PS5 will not support 1440p when my Xbox already does.
I'm wondering why 1440 wouldn't be supported. I know they couldnt reach it on Pro but with updated hardware I would think it would be possible.
I knew it wasn't going to be supported, if it was they'd have told us, I know that everyone likes to say all of a sudden that Sony is just being more humble then Microsoft but what people forget is that these are corporations not people, if they got something they will shout it out.
Yes but not with hdmi 2.1 so nothing for consoles yet as far as I'm aware. The best option right now is probably the CX48 TV