I'm actually really surprised seeing a lot of comments on this post supporting Will's actions. You lot really think physical violence was the right solution to this? Whether Chris was right or wrong in saying that joke, physical violence isn't the answer.
Considering this is a very liberal & left leaning forum I'm very surprised to not only see the comments from regular users but also the fact that the mods seem to be endorsing it too
This is 100% the way to go. He could have used the Oscars to tell everyone what a shitty thing Rock did and what a shitty person he is for it . And in that why put Chris down while still maintaining Oscar winner status. The fact that he choose violence instead...Slapping someone is wrong.
Standing up for someone you love despite peer/societal pressue is good.
He should have walked up to him and just say that this joke sucked and that Chris of all people should know better, since he made a whole movie about women's hair and just walked back to his seat.
We've had this same debate in the previous 3-4 threads that were made during and after the incident. Yet it's always the same people spouting the "violence is never the answer" rhetoric again and again.First off: lol
Second off, there's a difference between thinking that Smith did everything right and being fine that Rock got slapped. This whole "violence is never the answer" nonsense is only ever naive and hypocritical, and several posters have explained this very well if you can be bothered to go back and actually read through the thread instead of regurgitating this tired, eye-rolling take.
Because some users here are living in the real world, and they know how things goes. If i talk shit about the wife of someone, i expect some punches to be thrown.I'm actually really surprised seeing a lot of comments on this post supporting Will's actions. You lot really think physical violence was the right solution to this? Whether Chris was right or wrong in saying that joke, physical violence isn't the answer.
Considering this is a very liberal & left leaning forum I'm very surprised to not only see the comments from regular users but also the fact that the mods seem to be endorsing it too
I mean the thing is that most of the people who think Will did the wrong thing in this thread are saying that violence wasn't the answer in this situation, not that it's never the answer.We've had this same debate in the previous 3-4 threads that were made during and after the incident. Yet it's always the same people spouting the "violence is never the answer" rhetoric again and again.
'This sucks! Guess that gives me an excuse to continue the thing that sucks! There is absolutely nothing we can do about it!'Because some users here are living in the real world, and they know how things goes. If i talk shit about the wife of someone, i expect some punches to be thrown.
That situation is pretty simple. You can say that Will went to far, but you can also understand that Chris had it coming. Has nothing to do with being liberal & left leaning. Boundaries exists for a reason.
This. Anyone who tries to argue otherwise is either just doing it to be a contrarian or has lived an extremely sheltered or privileged life in my opinion. The defense force that pops up for these assholes in the "people who get what they deserve" threads when they pop up is one of Era's more embarrassing habits. The first time I really noticed it was the thread about the lady on the bus who got got because she threw around the N-Word. People lined up with "no violence please!" takes. It hasn't gotten any better since as far as I can tell. Every time someone gets themselves into a situation and then gets a real world answer to that situation at least one person has to line up to defend them.Because some users here are living in the real world, and they know how things goes. If i talk shit about the wife of someone, i expect some punches to be thrown.
That situation is pretty simple. You can say that Will went to far, but you can also understand that Chris had it coming. Has nothing to do with being liberal & left leaning. Boundaries exists for a reason.
Yeah I don't get the obsession with celebs. Live your lives people, and eat the rich.I'm so sorry for these super rich people, must be really hard to get through all that suffering. Both giving and receiving a slap, truly something world-moving that has changed forever their rich lives, and that was rightfully discussed for months by millions of people.
So? Is the only acceptable take to condone what Smith did unconditionally?EDIT: Oh and just because someone understands why Will did what he did and are willing to not be that harsh on him is not the same as thinking what Will did wasn't wrong in the first place. I have seen that take thrown around far more often than I could count.
This, I agree with. He snapped and did something awful but I don't think it's ok to diagnose it as a symptom of a bigger issue.For me it isn't the fact that Will hit somebody, it's the fact that people on here are extrapolating that this is some severe "warning sign" of his mental state and maturity as if he isn't a human being with moments of weakness.
Well if your definition of victimhood is a public apology from Chris Rock then ok.
Condoning is not the same thing as understanding. You can understand why someone did what they did and still realize it was objectively wrong.So? Is the only acceptable take to condone what Smith did unconditionally?
Careful. Those pearls will turn to dust if you grip them any tighter.I can't believe people are advocating for physical violence here, especially at a publicly broadcasted event. And your excuses about "living in the real world" are BS, this is what causes the cycle of toxicity to go on and on.
Why should Chris Rock get shit on less for publicly shaming a woman who has a disease she has no control over, again?My thing is he should've cussed him out in public then hit him backstage. That way everyone knows it happened and Chris Rock gets shit on less.
Bingo.One that thing i think is barely touched on is Chris Rock made this
Then went on to attack a black woman about her hair. That is like Jon Stewart spitting on 9/11 first responder. That shit told me a lot about chris more than will slapping him
This is where it really gets absurd. "Publicly shaming a woman with a disease"...Why should Chris Rock get shit on less for publicly shaming a woman who has a disease she has no control over, again?
Another thing, Mel"I hope you get raped by a pack of niggers" Gibson was like in the second row. That alone makes all this Hollywood outrage ring hollowBingo.
Anyone trying to say Rock didn't know what he was doing is proven wrong by that fact alone.
This is where it really gets absurd. "Publicly shaming a woman with a disease"...
Give me a fucking break. There was no shaming whatsoever.
Something something did he know though something something violence is bad something something setting a bad example something something not the point though something something
Why would rock spends months making a docu about the impacts of hair on women of color, just to shit on a woman of color using her hair? Make it make senseThis is where it really gets absurd. "Publicly shaming a woman with a disease"...
Give me a fucking break. There was no shaming whatsoever.
Barely touched on? It's mentioned constantly.One that thing i think is barely touched on is Chris Rock made this
Then went on to attack a black woman about her hair. That is like Jon Stewart spitting on 9/11 first responder. That shit told me a lot about chris more than will slapping him
Oh absolutely. That should be #1 argument against any of this shit, but people need to focus on imagined arguments of toxicity and abuse or saintly tears of non-violence.Another thing, Mel"I hope you get raped by a pack of niggers" Gibson was like in the second row. That alone makes all this Hollywood outrage ring hollow
Yes it does make him a terrible person. I mean come on a Gi Jane joke? Clearly he was just digging for something for a vehicle to take a shot.Barely touched on? It's mentioned constantly.
I don't understand why some people think it's some sort of silver bullet. People are suggesting that him making the joke after making this movie somehow makes him a worse person but.... he made the movie in the first place?
Doesn't that suggest he has more compassion for black women around their hair than the average person, therefore making it less likely that he was maliciously mocking Jada's alopecia and instead just made a shitty joke?
Nah, he knew, and took that moment to deliberately put a woman down for having a disease outside of her control. That makes way more sense.
Yes. It does. Because as its been mentioned about hundred fucking times now he has been making jokes at her expense for literally YEARS. He made an entire documentary over black women's hair and its importance to them. Yet made the joke anyway despite everything. He knew what he was doing and then did it anyway. That is a fact.Nah, he knew, and took that moment to deliberately put a woman down for having a disease outside of her control. That makes way more sense.
Barely touched on? It's mentioned constantly.
I don't understand why some people think it's some sort of silver bullet. People are suggesting that him making the joke after making this movie somehow makes him a worse person but.... he made the movie in the first place?
Doesn't that suggest he has more compassion for black women around their hair than the average person, therefore making it less likely that he was maliciously mocking Jada's alopecia and instead just made a shitty joke?
Nah, he knew, and took that moment to deliberately put a woman down for having a disease outside of her control. That makes way more sense.
I actually have trouble understanding comments like this.I can't wrap my head around why people care so much about this incident… like, why is it earth shattering? Guy got upset and slapped another guy. 🤷🏾♂️
So sorry I didn't enjoy whites clowning a beloved POC on their talk shows. Get a fucking grip.Why should Chris Rock get shit on less for publicly shaming a woman who has a disease she has no control over, again?
I keep it real, at that moment Will Smith stopped being "safe" to a lot of white people, and they feel betrayed and slighted. And we know what happens when that happens in americaIt's so wild that people are so triggered by Will Smith slapping Chris Rock.
Yeah, slapping someone is a poor response to being upset, but it's not some alien emotional response. He saw his wife being publicly humiliated and lost his cool.
I can't wrap my head around why people care so much about this incident… like, why is it earth shattering? Guy got upset and slapped another guy. 🤷🏾♂️
Slapping someone is wrong.
Standing up for someone you love despite peer/societal pressue is good.
He should have walked up to him and just say that this joke sucked and that Chris of all people should know better, since he made a whole movie about women's hair and just walked back to his seat.
I actually have trouble understanding comments like this.
The incident happened on stage, live on television around the world, at the Oscars, between two incredibly famous international celebrities. That makes it so, so much more strange and shocking and funny and tragic and just plain weird than pretty much any other similar situation ever could be.
Like, people say the wrong names of movies all the time. When it happened at the Oscars in 2017, it made a much bigger impact than usual.
It's not like seeing two people in a bar on a Friday night getting into a fight. That happens all the time. This doesn't. It's totally understandable that this made some serious waves.
The context and environment it happened in is what makes it truly odd and fascinating to so many. If it was just some thing that happened somewhere private that we only knew about because of some line item in a gossip mag no one would be talking about it to nearly this degree.I mean it doesn't make it strange to me… despite their level of fame… they are just human beings, subject to the exact same flaws as the rest of us. 🤷🏾♂️.
I keep it real, at that moment Will Smith stopped being "safe" to a lot of white people, and they feel betrayed and slighted. And we know what happens when that happens in america
I'm just really surprised by the reaction, very different from the men I saw making comments about the eventsCan I speak as a woman and say I sure as shit wouldn't want such a partner or do I count less than the women you decide to use for your argument?
The context and environment it happened in is what makes it truly odd and fascinating to so many. If it was just some thing that happened somewhere private that we only knew about because of some line item in a gossip mag no one would be talking about it to nearly this degree.
I'm so sorry for these super rich people, must be really hard to get through all that suffering. Both giving and receiving a slap, truly something world-moving that has changed forever their rich lives, and that was rightfully discussed for months by millions of people.
Yeah I don't get the obsession with celebs. Live your lives people, and eat the rich.
I don't understand posts like this.
It's clear what the thread is about. Why enter it just to post a longer version of, "I don't care about this topic?"
"Comedians making jokes."I'd really to hear what some of you prices of shit in this thread would dare to say to my epileptic wife. Got any you wanna go for while you've got the opportunity? Words just words bro, sure