Fucking this. If they lose faith in Morgan Freeman or Denzel they might writing start NY Times articles about how bringing slavery back may be a good thing.
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Will Smith Breaks Silence: “Deeply Remorseful” For Oscar Slap
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He himself says in this video he wasn't thinking, it was a moment of rage and anger and not a controlled action...
This is round and round so I don't know if we should even bother.
But the issue is words can kill. You may say it's Comedy, it's just a joke but why are these performers on their special night have to be robbed by attacks about their or their family's diseases? The whole "it's just comedy" thing doesn't fly for me at all.
Ultimately, Will using violence wasn't good, and I'm glad he's reaching out and tryna make amends. But it's literally just a slap. People get slapped all the time for a million different reasons. A celebrity getting slapped for a bad joke isn't one that draws too much sympathy from me.
Was this still a thing? I haven't heard or read anything about this incident for months now, until this video.
Then again, I might just be out of touch.
Good for Will. The slap wasn't the problem. If he wanted to rumble with Chris he should have done it away from prying eyes. He embarrassed the both of them.
Eh it was a bit overblown as it was. I've see guys get snatched up and beaten over saying out of the way shit to other people's wives but these people are actors and such so a different set of rules I guess. That said, the only thing he could have done better was slap the shit out if him back stage. Glad he is putting it behind him. Not even a big deal. Motherfuckers act like they never seen someone get set straight
Reading this thread just makes me think of how much Hollywood and the media would have been tripping over themselves to praise standing up for your wife and family if it was a white actor.
The pearl clutching people are still doing is fucking wild.
Words can be hurtful, yes, but they can't physically hurt you. Like, this is something we teach kids in kindergarten, "sticks and stones..." We can't start justifying violence over perceived slights in 2022. That's crazy.
Really great video there, very honest. Hopefully people just move on, whatever else happens should be handled privately between Will and Chris.
I still think the media around it was fucking pathetic though. Dude lashed out and slapped another dude in an emotional moment like all human beings can have, we all get emotional and make mistakes. Yes it was wrong but fuck me some places acted like he killed someone. It felt like people were just waiting for Will Smith to fuck up or something, the reaction felt so disproportionate. Meanwhile you've got rapists and abusers being protected in Hollywood. It's ridiculous...
I still think the media around it was fucking pathetic though. Dude lashed out and slapped another dude in an emotional moment like all human beings can have, we all get emotional and make mistakes. Yes it was wrong but fuck me some places acted like he killed someone. It felt like people were just waiting for Will Smith to fuck up or something, the reaction felt so disproportionate. Meanwhile you've got rapists and abusers being protected in Hollywood. It's ridiculous...
Morgan "the solution to racism is to just stop talking about it" Freeman clocking someone will be ruled by the courts as something to Stand Your Ground against and trigger old school race riots.
"If we can't trust him we can't trust none of y'all."
Good of him to reach out and also apologize to Chris and his family. I understand at the moment he was angry and heated but it's good he knows after some time that what he did wasn't the right thing to do. The shouting he did after the fact probably would've been enough from jump but getting physical was what took it too far.
View: https://twitter.com/adashtra/status/1508276311193755654
4 months...still how I feel about this personally.
Sorry white people, but stay in your fucking lane on this.
What? A lot of societal change has been explicity because words can have severe consequences. Words can drive people to suicide. Slaps not always.
Leaving this here, as this video is damn near required viewing for anybody wanting to engage in the nuance surrounding this topic:
View: https://youtu.be/EtXPTGkuJIA
View: https://youtu.be/EtXPTGkuJIA
I lost count of how many times I saw some white dude saying "He could have killed Chris Rock"
This issue really should be dead already and it sucks that he finds himself having to apologize so much . Unfortunately he can have all the support in the world but the slap is such an indelible image that I think it's going to be tough for him to shake it off. He has to eventually find a way to have fun with it and meme it up and Chris needs to get over it already.
Words can have indirect consequences, but that's a larger discussion. Words have no power on their own, it's all in how they are received and processed. Physically assaulting someone is always a direct act of violence. This shouldn't be controversial. Sad it has to be said.
I got punched in the face while both tripping on shrooms. No apology ever.
That friendship is done. It was shaky to begin with anyway lmao
An apology ain't fixing that.
Watched all of his and TJ1's videos on the topic and it opened my eyes to a ton of things I hadn't even considered, or have even been exposed to. Really challenged my perspective on a number of related subjects.
I highly recommend- regardless of which "side" of things any of you think you're on. It's not about that.
The joke sucked.
The slap sucked.
This whole thing sucks, and I wish people would just stop talking about it and leave Will and Chris the fuck along and let them work this out amongst themselves. Compared to the myriad of horrific, unforgiveable things some of the people who have stood on stage at the Oscars have done, Will Smith slapping a dude doesn't even fucking rate.
The slap sucked.
This whole thing sucks, and I wish people would just stop talking about it and leave Will and Chris the fuck along and let them work this out amongst themselves. Compared to the myriad of horrific, unforgiveable things some of the people who have stood on stage at the Oscars have done, Will Smith slapping a dude doesn't even fucking rate.
Agreed and I'm still shocked at some of the posts we are seeing even after 3 months to think on it.
Quote the posts you're shocked by
Right.
We can't say words are words and jokes are jokes and then turn around and want to hold Dave Chapelle accountable for his transphobic shit.
I was always kinda sorta on Will's side regarding this situation.
That said I've always felt that public apologies, by the nature of being, well, PUBLIC apologies, are never really sincere, and always performative on some level. I would be extremely interested to find out what Will said to Chris in private, if anything...
That said I've always felt that public apologies, by the nature of being, well, PUBLIC apologies, are never really sincere, and always performative on some level. I would be extremely interested to find out what Will said to Chris in private, if anything...
Up North in the UK, I wouldn't do the same but I don't know many people who wouldn't get aggressive (And I'm a Vegan hippy kind) with what he said. At the same time I'd back off from violence. I had to talk someone out of a fight a few weeks ago, their first night in a club I frequent and some guy who I also know asked if he could touch his girlfriends vagina, told the guy to back off and the guy saying it to fuck off (I know him kind of, dated a friend). I know some people who'd straight up smack him though.
I've also been smacked many a time (Mainly from thieving stoner friends) and just sacked them off, an apology maybe is fine, doesn't have to result in becoming friends again.
I've also been smacked many a time (Mainly from thieving stoner friends) and just sacked them off, an apology maybe is fine, doesn't have to result in becoming friends again.
Curious what your take is on Alex Jones and the effect his words had on the parents of the kids murdered at Sandy Hook. Words have a fuckton of power.
Takes I'm reading smh.
Guy physically assaulted someone on live tv. At a work event. I've seen people get canned for doing less stupid shit at work Christmas parties.
Not a rational decision at all. Maybe he was going through some shit, it doesn't matter, he'll be ok, he'll still get work. He doesn't need a defense force.
Guy physically assaulted someone on live tv. At a work event. I've seen people get canned for doing less stupid shit at work Christmas parties.
Not a rational decision at all. Maybe he was going through some shit, it doesn't matter, he'll be ok, he'll still get work. He doesn't need a defense force.
Damn, comparing Rock's joke to Sandy Hook. Now I've seen it get low.
sorry will the self-righteous are gonna clutch those pearls forever now that you've shown you're a scaaaaary black man
I wasn't comparing Chris to Alex Jones. I just think it's insane to act like words can't cause incredible amounts of pain and horror. I've known people who killed themselves over "nothing" more than words.
Either words have power or they don't.
This should be a simple principle to be consistent with.
That poster just said words don't have power, which is honestly one of the stupidest hot takes I've ever seen this forum.
Yeah that's the only reason I'm happy to see this. Honestly feel like people should've moved on by now but I'm sure there are plenty of people who want to hold this over Will's head forever and I can't blame him for trying to appease them.
Being physically assaulted has power too. A G.I. Jane joke has nowhere near the presence or power of fucking children being murdered. It's a poor comparison.
And now you're comparing a slap to children being murdered? Interesting...
What are you on about? I wasn't the one doing the comparing.
No one is denying that physical violence- whether a slap or shooting- has power. The question is do words have power too? It's either yes or no.
You missed the point of the comparison.
People have been killed over a couple of words. The US has a pretty lengthy history of this especially in regards to black men.
I always find it funny how white people got so much to say but always skip over posts by people of color and ignore what we have to say every fucking time
I always take a deep breathe when I see any era thread that has anything to do with black people.
I always take a deep breathe when I see any era thread that has anything to do with black people.
Yes, words have power. "The pen is mightier" and such.
I don't think I did.
Alex Jones and what he said about Sandy Hook (edit: words that were obviously powerful and hurtful) is being used as a gotcha to people who want to say Rock's joke wasn't worthy of being assaulted.
A 14 year old boy got lynched for a purported wolf whistle. Not even an actual word.
yup
too bad this shit ruined his career, who knows when he'll come back if ever
Every single time. Like let's forget nuance I guess.
The joke was bad, the slap was a bad reaction, but this isn't even the worst thing anybody has done to somebody at the Oscars.
And let's not forget how white Hollywood is using this as their scapegoat to keep people from looking at their worse crimes.
Good, so now you understand why people aren't jiving with folks trying to say Chris Rock's jokes were just words.
There's definitely a pattern here where the harm of words is significantly desensitized when it comes to Black targets. You can find any thread here where white people get physically checked for calling a Black person the n-word and people will still go "The Black person shouldn't have retaliated because it's just a word," but this sentiment is not shared with white/potentially-white targets of political bullying or oppression.
I really believe he'll be back. He's far too amazing of an actor and a charismatic guy.