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Will Pokemon Sword/Shield benefit from the "Switch Lift"?
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We know is Kirby is less than 2.75m since it's below Tennis.
Kirby's dream land GB did 5.13m
Kirby superstar ultra did 2.99m
It should pass superstar ultra. And then it'll be 2nd.
So it has a lift compared to the 3DS entries, but assuming we get a brawler kirby by 2021, it won't reach those other heights.
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Yoshi did ship 1.11 million copies in Q4, only a few days of tracking, so maybe I should hold off declarations this early.
I just don't see it hitting the 4m of yoshi's island.
I think it can....depends on if there's a third version in 2020. If there is, I'm not sure
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If an enhanced version of these game exists I doubt it comes out next year. Maybe 2021.
Ahh yeah I forgot about Ultra. Still that would be the target to beat if we want to say it got a lift from the switch. The original seems to be more of an outlier.
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I posted before but yes I kind of think 2020 is the off year. The last one was 2015.
we need LM3 to beat LM2's 5 million. I went from not caring about the franchise to being day one after this e3, so hopefully it's good.
Pokemon will never top Red and Blue.
At best, they can race for second place trying to top Gold / Silver.
At best, they can race for second place trying to top Gold / Silver.
Pokemon, I'm confident, will sell absolutely huge on Switch. I don't have the sales numbers of the other games though to say for sure that this one will best em.
I only say that because, and please correct me if I'm wrong, the handhelds almost always had a huge install base and many gamers bought those systems just for Pokemon. Then again, a lot of people may by Switch for Sword and Shield.
I only say that because, and please correct me if I'm wrong, the handhelds almost always had a huge install base and many gamers bought those systems just for Pokemon. Then again, a lot of people may by Switch for Sword and Shield.
I'm expecting the game to sell better than the standard new generation. 20 million is possible. Espicially since it's the biggest holiday title for the Switch this holiday (unless Luigi's Mansion 3 really explodes out the gate somehow) and it's also shipping with the Switch Mini as well which is a lower price point for people to jump in at.
But by far the biggest issue for the Pokemon franchise is that it's an Annual Franchise, a lot of people are in the camp of "Just wait for the enhanced version" which has happened for every generation except for X and Y. And enhanced versions always cut the legs of the game. Sun and Moon would have outsold X and Y easily had Ultra Sun and Moon not been announced like 9 months after launch.
All that matters is it will outsell the trash fire that is let's go and Gamefreak will continue to make new regions and games and not recess even further into the Gen One Pander fests like last years abomination. One hopes that is the case at least.
But by far the biggest issue for the Pokemon franchise is that it's an Annual Franchise, a lot of people are in the camp of "Just wait for the enhanced version" which has happened for every generation except for X and Y. And enhanced versions always cut the legs of the game. Sun and Moon would have outsold X and Y easily had Ultra Sun and Moon not been announced like 9 months after launch.
All that matters is it will outsell the trash fire that is let's go and Gamefreak will continue to make new regions and games and not recess even further into the Gen One Pander fests like last years abomination. One hopes that is the case at least.
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I mean this generation seems to be all in on breaking away from the past. So much so that people are pissed off about it lol.
No but'll sell millions and do great, I think the sales will be lower than previous launches, maybe 15 mil. I genuinely think there will be some pause in peoples minds at launch.
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It's going to be down over the last few launches by definition because it's selling to a far smaller install base. The question is about the legs, I suppose.
Well the Regional Champion has a Charizard (Because of course he does), so I wouldn't say they are "all in" exactly.
I don't think GF ever expected Let's Go to sell on the level of Sword and Shield.
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Him having Charizard doesn't mean anything; lots of teams have Charizard. Like having Lucario prominently featured in XY didn't make them Gen 4 pandering.
I think much of the switch lift will be used up on keeping sales at the usual ~16 million despite the game now costing 50% more, so overall its probably not gonna be the same raw sales increase.
My guess is that new people will jump on board, but others might leave due to the higher pricepoint.(both of the machine, though switch lite should help, and the game itself).
Revenue wise SWSH will crush every pokemon game besides gen1, simply because they now cost 60 instead of 40.
Just looking at Lets go, that sold about 10m copies, but revenue wise it was like 15m copies of the 40 buck variant.
My guess is that new people will jump on board, but others might leave due to the higher pricepoint.(both of the machine, though switch lite should help, and the game itself).
Revenue wise SWSH will crush every pokemon game besides gen1, simply because they now cost 60 instead of 40.
Just looking at Lets go, that sold about 10m copies, but revenue wise it was like 15m copies of the 40 buck variant.
Probably and I would hate that it does.
Game Freak will probably think all the decisions they did for this generation of pokemon is correct and I get to suffer for it not only for this game but in the future games as well.
I pray to high heavens they fail and actually steer the ship in the right direction before it gets worse.
Game Freak will probably think all the decisions they did for this generation of pokemon is correct and I get to suffer for it not only for this game but in the future games as well.
I pray to high heavens they fail and actually steer the ship in the right direction before it gets worse.
The Switch Lite is going to boost those numbers even more. Even with the more expensive price, for $260 you're getting the new Pokémon, and Nintendo is pretty much going to have this holiday to themselves, as far as exciting new first party releases go.
Let's also be real here: most of the people that are raging over the Pokédex are going to buy the games anyway. If there is one thing this fan base is good for, it's bitching and whining about every single entry and buying them anyway
Let's also be real here: most of the people that are raging over the Pokédex are going to buy the games anyway. If there is one thing this fan base is good for, it's bitching and whining about every single entry and buying them anyway
If LGPE sold 11 million, then I think this will sell a good amount more. At least 15 million...but probably more
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I'll go with no. I think it finishes around 13-15 million. Any "Switch boost" is probably being offset by the controversy surrounding the game.
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Do you think the controversy is actually anything that has any bearing whatsoever among the mainstream audiences who comprise the demographic that purchases Pokémon?
We can talk about Gen 4 pandering when we get the long due Diamond and Pearl remakes. But as they don't exist yet, we need to be reminded that last years game went out of it's way to remove just about everything but the first generation. With cursory references to other regions with characters like Archer, Mina and if you are generous, Alolan and Megas at best. To outright block evolutions like Scizor, Sylveon, Tangrowth and the like made for a significantly less interesting game, and Megas already being cut from SwSh is a mark against it, I don't care if they are centralizing the meta, ban them from the meta if need be, but let people play the wild format if they so desire.
But this is getting off topic so back to SwSh sales possibilities, to go on the controversial "Dexit" Topic, I don't think it's going to affect this game too much annoyingly, there will be a dip, but a new region is still one people will want to see, espicially as the new pokemon designs look good, the music sounds good and the trainers are good. Just hope it performs well and they iron out the bugs and graphics from the E3 demo. The bigger sales hits will be if the game has significant performance issues that reviewers would have to mark the game down on it (And considering how performance has been in past games, that's gonna take a lot, amazed how many just let Let's Go online services just slide by like it was not worth considering for the score). and how soon an enhanced version of the game will come out.
If something is going to get hit because of Dexit, Pokemon Home is going to be hit the hardest, since I don't think it's Casuals that will be requiring the size of it's storage service when the game generally have enough storage on it. Whilst enthusiast certainly aren't going to want to have a lot of their collection held in limbo.
All I ask is for my Pokemons. I can tolerate everything else.
As far as # of units goes, no. I think the "Switch lift" will be primarily what keeps the sales afloat to usual numbers for new entries in the series. However, the controversies surrounding Sw/Sh, and the inability of Game Freak/TPC to shift online discussion away from them, is pretty much the definition of anti-hype. I can't see it breaking sales records as a result.
However, the $60 price point will most certainly result in higher overall revenue than many of the recent titles.
However, the $60 price point will most certainly result in higher overall revenue than many of the recent titles.
I think so, yes. I doubt it'll be the highest selling game in the series – that seems highly unlikely – but I think it'll end up at least matching D/P, if not exceeding (those did 18 million or so, right?).
The Switch Lift™ will be more applicable here, I think, because this is an entirely new Pokemon generation, which Let's Go obviously wasn't. I mean, it still depends on how strong its sustained sales are, which will depend on reviews and post-launch word of mouth (and whether or not there's a new Pokemon game next year), but I think sales in the first year will be remarkably strong.
Not to mention the fact that it's going to get the Switch Lite Lift™ as well. Plus there's that SwSh special edition Switch Lite, which will help in its own small way.
The Switch Lift™ will be more applicable here, I think, because this is an entirely new Pokemon generation, which Let's Go obviously wasn't. I mean, it still depends on how strong its sustained sales are, which will depend on reviews and post-launch word of mouth (and whether or not there's a new Pokemon game next year), but I think sales in the first year will be remarkably strong.
Not to mention the fact that it's going to get the Switch Lite Lift™ as well. Plus there's that SwSh special edition Switch Lite, which will help in its own small way.
Good thread, PT. I don't have much to add on this one but I'm guessing no. It's going to sell quite well but various factors will prevent it from reaching prior heights.
I think it may end up staying around the same as X and Y and Sun and Moon because of the price increase, though the Switch boost may bring it a bit higher. I don't think it'll reach 20 million though.
I think it will but not as much as the other IP have. I think Mario is a much bigger casual gaming IP than Pokemon is which is why Mario will see a bigger benefit from system expansions than Pokemon. Other games seem to have specific reasons that Pokemon wont (Like Zelda and Smash being contenders for best in series)
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The thing, though, is that the amount separating D/P from the rest of the series since is 1 million. That shouldn't be an insurmountable barrier.
I dunno, but if Pokemon does well I'm copyrighting "SwSh SwSh Bish" (another one in the basket).
Probably yes, already at 11 million, not bad for a low budget half remake / half spin-off that lacked 4/5 of Pokemon and most of the recent gens improvements.
Let's Go got a bit of a boost. It's tracking ahead of ORAS, the last remake.
I think SWSH will...maybe not as pronounced due to the controversy that has bled over from the very vocal minority to be more visible, but it'll still do gangbusters.
I am also of the belief (Note: This is not indicative of insider knowledge) that 2020 will be a year off, so SWSH's sales likely won't be cut off by the announcement of the next on like the last batch have
I think SWSH will...maybe not as pronounced due to the controversy that has bled over from the very vocal minority to be more visible, but it'll still do gangbusters.
I am also of the belief (Note: This is not indicative of insider knowledge) that 2020 will be a year off, so SWSH's sales likely won't be cut off by the announcement of the next on like the last batch have
Absolutely yes but the fact that it isn't the first HD Pokemon game and the massive controversy about it will definitely drag down the sales.
I expect it to sell like BW.
I expect it to sell like BW.
Diamond & Pearl are presently at 17.67 million
Black & White are at 15.64 million
X & Y are at 16.4 million
Sun & Moon are at 16.12 million
Alas we don't have any solid GBA numbers
The controversy isn't as big as social media will have you think
They could pull an ORAS or SM/USUM and just release Pokémon Shining Sword and Stunning Shield or Pokémon Diamond and Pearl remakes.
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