If you're preemptively worried about "toxic" "haters" review-bombing a game before you've even played it, that sounds like a you problem.
I like the little peppering of classism, too ("because they cant afford one").
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Will Half-Life: Alyx gets review-bomb by non-VR users for being a VR game?
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If you're preemptively worried about "toxic" "haters" review-bombing a game before you've even played it, that sounds like a you problem.
I like the little peppering of classism, too ("because they cant afford one").
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i ain't worrying though. I am just wondering if anyone else feels the same thats all. Also, not being able to afford one is often cited as the main reasons why they dont have VR.
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It completely depends in how well it uses VR. I would never expect Astro Bot to get a non-VR version because it uses the medium well but there are some games that don't use the format's unique features and it makes you wonder why they're in VR in the first place
Hopefully Half Life Alyx will help push the VR medium forward by showcasing what VR can do which will make calls for a flat version moot. If it doesn't do that, then I can see people pushing for a non-VR version and I would understand why. I'm hoping for the former case.
Hopefully Half Life Alyx will help push the VR medium forward by showcasing what VR can do which will make calls for a flat version moot. If it doesn't do that, then I can see people pushing for a non-VR version and I would understand why. I'm hoping for the former case.
The phrase shows up in racing game threads on occasion and I don't think I've ever seen it used as a negative descriptive phrase about someone. Just usually as a method of differentiating between VR and non-VR.
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I mean, you could say the same about the walking simulators. Started as a joke and we got stuck with the word.
I mean, you could say the same about the walking simulators. Started as a joke and we got stuck with the word.
It's not 'offensive', but it's definitely elitist. Hell, I own a VR but to call non-VR games and gamers "pancake" is pure mockery.
Back on topic - there'll be a few. Comes with the territory these days sadly. It should be a new internet rule ala 'Don't read the YouTube comments'; 'Don't trust the user scores'.
"Walking simulator" has always had negative connotations. It came into existence when Dear Esther released (the mod, not the remake) and people wanted an easy way to refer to the lack of "real" gameplay.
Which I find weird to do as 'flat' and 'non-VR' are shorter words that get the same point across. 'Pancake' comes across as absurdist mockery to easily disregard and disrepute a differing opinion.
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I get that, though I actually think it probably was intended to poke fun at "the old way" just a little bit. It was a VR dev explaining that they wouldn't be making a non-VR version, after all; there's an implication that "the pancake version" is something that people shouldn't want in a world with VR.
We can agree to disagree on that, but I can definitely see why people would think using it in the context of pancake gamers is elitist or a little derisive. It's like when motorcyclists call automobile drivers "cagers." Like, yeah, there is a literal cage around someone who drives a car, but there's also more than a little implied judgement there, like if only those people were more enlightened they would break out of their cage and ride a motorcycle. If only pancake gamers would just open their eyes, they would obviously see the benefits of non-pancake version of games!
I think both terms are elitist bullshit, and I say this as someone who enjoys both motorcycles and VR.
Pancake gamer. Well, that's a first. You learn something new everyday. Sadly, I can't unlearn it.
"Who cares about user-reviews anyway?" says gamer as he talks about the latest game that got review bombed for second time this week.
my point is, lets not have pancake users or something become the defacto term. it totally has a derogatory vibe to it!
It will obviously happen. Considering we have a first major entry in Half-Life franchise since a long time, we will definitely have some individuals on a mission to review-bomb because of its being a VR game. To be honest, I'm not that thrilled about it either, but I'm happy Valve gave this IP another chance and decided to push for something clearly more unique.
Yeah. There's an implication that preferring to enjoy a game on a flat screen is somehow a lesser preference; that only a simpleton would prefer the "pancake" version.
The reveal trailer has half a million likes, and only 15 thousand dislikes. If these supposed people can't be bothered to down vote the trailer en masse, I don't think they are going to go through the trouble of buying and refunding a game so they can leave a review.
Absolutely lol.
I'm also fully expecting a non VR version mod too, which people will complain about being bad, because they're too stupid to realise that the game and it's systems were made to be experienced in VR.
I'm also fully expecting a non VR version mod too, which people will complain about being bad, because they're too stupid to realise that the game and it's systems were made to be experienced in VR.
That's a lot of effort just to review bomb.
Well then again we have someone on Era who single handedly review bomb AI: The Somnium Files.
Eh for a while you only needed like a 970. I'm sure that stands true for a lot of games still.
Edit: Seems like it's more like a 1060/1070 these days. Still about in line with the model that was required in the beginning.
This. Just because Half Life is written on the cover doesn't mean the game is fun to play. I'm always curious with big names, sometimes they turn out to be just that, only big names.
Oh, sure. I'm just saying the OP's intention wasn't to belittle anyone who can't partake in or is otherwise averse to VR.
You haven't looked very hard, go look at steam community page. 90% of the topics are complaints about it being VR
People are taking the joke of pancake gamer way to serious. Sadly yes, it will probably be review bombed.
There was a time, not too long ago, when toe shoes (like Vibram FiveFingers) very quickly became a religion in certain parts of California, and converts to this new religion very quickly became weirdly judgmental to the people who weren't into this new way of shoe-ing. One of the epithets the toe shoe people would call people with regular shoes is hoof people, because they thought it was just so unnatural for people to wear a non-toe-shoe. It made them appear as if they had hooves.
That's what I think of, when I read "pancake gamer." A tiny minority with misplaced superiority not understanding that not everybody wants to be them.
I think its less people are offended at it and more that its just an insane thing to say
I think you are overthinking what is little more than some funny terminology.
Pancake=flat=2D=NonVR
