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Will Atlus cancel 13 Sentinels if no one buys the paid demo?
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Are you really unclear or do you not want it to be what it clearly looks like, and what they have largely said it is?
Vanillaware notoriously takes a long time with their titles, and has no problem shipping at a loss for the sake of quality, so they'll find a way.
It's called the "prologue", so it pretty much is a demo of sorts. To justify the $30 cover price, they included a bunch of extras. That is customarily what companies will do to get to that price point, since you generally cannot get something out in a retail box for less than 3000 yen.
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I don't see the Ground Zero comparison, at least GZ was a true prologue and was completely different from the main game. This sounds like it is literally the first few hours of the game and the save game wont even carry over to the final release if it ever comes....
How do you think Zone of the Enders and Crackdown sold? They were games people played after buying for the MGS2 and Halo 3 demo/beta.
Titan A.E. says hello.
Don't know why a healthy project would ever do this if this prologue is actually intended to be part of the full game. Are we sure they're not just pivoting to an episodic model?
You can get the demo for barely 1000 yen so is not a matter of buying a $30 demo or not. Even if the demo doesn't do well in Japan who is to say the game will not do decent in the west?, or even when the full game is out in Japan.
In any case, everything surrounding this game is difficult to understand.
In any case, everything surrounding this game is difficult to understand.
Putting out a set that is a 36 page artbook, a physical mini soundtrack and a demo packaged together for 2900 yen is scummy????
They specifically included physical goods to justify the price. Artbooks here in Japan are usually 3000 yen on their own.
To be fair, 3000yen artbooks are the 200-400 page books. A 36 page book is pretty much a consolation only for collection purposes and nothing more. It's a DVD case sized booklet too, so that's pretty tiny. With 13 main characters, I expect like 2 pages for each character, with most of it being a full pose taking up an entire page, and then some background art, and that's it.
10 bucks for the demo on disc, 10 bucks for the mini soundtrack, and 10 bucks for a tiny artbook and a nice art box sounds about right for collection value, but let's not oversell it haha.
But it's not Vanillaware's call. Atlus is the pubisher, Atlus is funding the game, and Atlus owns the IP. If Atlus wants to stop paying for continued development of the game and doesn't want to market and distribute it, they'll cancel it.
No. Why should they? It doesn't make sense. Sometimes I feel people don't have a clue on how companies actually work.
idk wtf they were thinking with this game. If your company is treading on thin ice you don't spend years on a visual novel.
I feel like this game has been in development forever. Never had interest. Looks like Vanillaware's least intriguing title. The art and premise just do nothing for me.
They need to bring all their games over to the Switch.
They need to bring all their games over to the Switch.
Yea I think they'll cancel it if it doesn't hit a certain threshold. They seem to be doing all they can to get people to buy it so I feel like it is a "we spent so much money on this dumb thing. So we wanna see if there is enough interest in at least the prologue before we commit for more money."
So is everybody worried just because it's taking a while? Persona 5 took a while too and I don't remember as much panic over its cancellation.
I'm looking forward to the game but to me this paid demo looks like Atlus begging for more money. It's not the same thing as Ground Zeroes where the devs turned it into its own game and added enough additional content to justify the price. This demo is just chapter one making it pointless to buy it now if you're going to play the full game eventually and I hope the pre-order/ special edition shit for demos doesn't catch on.
I'm looking forward to the game but to me this paid demo looks like Atlus begging for more money. It's not the same thing as Ground Zeroes where the devs turned it into its own game and added enough additional content to justify the price. This demo is just chapter one making it pointless to buy it now if you're going to play the full game eventually and I hope the pre-order/ special edition shit for demos doesn't catch on.
I don't think so. I believe they just want more funds while developing the game, but don't have a real target of copies sold.
It's kinda like a telltale type of visual novel I guess. I would like them to spend as much time as possible since the graphics are hand drawn iirc.
i'll throw all my money at them but i don't really need a demo. i hope they will continue making nice 2D things.
I like visual novels and I really love the presentation of Vanillaware's games (questionable content aside), but uh, this doesn't seem like a terribly engaging deal. The lack of save data transfer being the real sticking point for me here. The extras are really nice but having to replay the first three hours of a visual novel once the final game is out, is like, anti-fun.
13 Sentinels Why this demo package should be more in line with Ground Zeroes, in that game you unlocked some extra goodies in the full version.
I doubt they will cancel the game outright but I suspect our chances of a localisation are pretty narrow - regardless of how this demo does.
$1 million budget? Have... You got a source for that? Because that sounds ludicrous.
Edit: found my own source. What the.... I don't even understand how that's possible.
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can I buy the demo now? will it be available in English? why has there been like no news on this? this also feels like a great Vita title.
Yeah, it's hard to emphasize just how small they are. That's why I sort of feel 13 sentinels is really safe. Even multiplying that budget multiple times is still safe for the numbers they usually do.
Game will do fine. Vanillaware is huge among the niche crowd, and they're a small studio so it's not like it'd take too much to break even.
They know that there audience loves phsyical goodies, so they can easily get away with this prologue thing.
The talk about the project being cancelled and the studio folding is a bit ludicrous, they just had another cash injection recently with DC Pro.
They know that there audience loves phsyical goodies, so they can easily get away with this prologue thing.
The talk about the project being cancelled and the studio folding is a bit ludicrous, they just had another cash injection recently with DC Pro.
Nope, I don't think they would cancel it: VW is a very small dev and they like to take their time. I feel this game's development is pocket change for Atlus and even them take their time with their own teams ! :P
I would get the demo if it was available digitally in Europe (or get the retail version for 20€).
I would get the demo if it was available digitally in Europe (or get the retail version for 20€).
No, no, there's been news about it (when they announced it and it isn't a Vita game (they canceled the Vita version).
Seems the game is facing enough production problems (for what is basically a glorified VN?....how is that even possible?) that failing to get any traction with this release may led to a cancellation.
It definetly sounds like they are scavenging from whatever money they can fool out of people before pulling out the plug.
It definetly sounds like they are scavenging from whatever money they can fool out of people before pulling out the plug.
Incredible news that this is a visual novel from Vanillaware and Atlus. Hyped through the roof and I would pay for this demo in a heartbeat
