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KujoJosuke

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yep. Yoko Taro really needs a character designer to tell him no and not enable him. I also wish for the days when Akihiko Yoshida wasn't constantly horny on main.

On the other hand, Taro was told to design a swimsuit version of a SINoAlice character and he did this


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Which is kinda funny
 

Rae

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Yep. Yoko Taro really needs a character designer to tell him no and not enable him. I also wish for the days when Akihiko Yoshida wasn't constantly horny on main.

I'm afraid it might be too late. I keep thinking that some of Bravely Default jobs designs looked cool but then again I rmb that they had to adjust them for overseas. However, with a new character designer I have hope for Bravely Default II.

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Dragmire

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Here's the interview mentioned that:
We still talk about the time Yoko-san was told that gacha games need to show more skin in order to make money, so he decided to put Dorothy a massive deep-sea diving suit for her Cleric Job that only showed a part of her face. Can you tell us more about that design?

Yoko Taro: "Mobile game devs tell me that swimsuit outfits make more money, so I should make one, so I made Dorothy's aquatic outfit for her Cleric class, but the sales weren't very good. The devs said, 'not a diving suit like this! A swimsuit that shows more skin!!' so I released Dorothy's lazy bear minstrel class, but sales went down yet again. Who can trust these devs?"
Which goes to show what devs think of these gatcha games that feature these designs. None of which is surprising and no one that supports this stuff really cares anyway.

the lazy bear design and the rest:
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Yoko Taro Talks About Writing ‘Happy Stories’ and Making ‘Sexy Swimsuits’ for SINoALICE

Yoko Taro about the totally “happy stories" and sexy "swimsuit outfits" he made for SINoALICE. He also talked booze and dream collaborations.
But frankly his honesty is just part of his brand now which is why SE allows it and he gets away with what he is saying here and shit like "I like girls."
 
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ImNotAFroot

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Nov 6, 2017
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The half-bra is weird. I kinda like her robo-leg tho, except that it has a heel.

Some of the other art for the game is not bad

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well, the leg slit is egregious but I love how big the sleeves are
Wait, these are great, don't think I've ever seen a bald young woman in a japanese game and the second lady looks sexy buy still classy af.
 

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I would love a sequel to Bioshock 2 that had Eleanor as the protagonist. I want a Bioshock game starring a woman period. Oh well, at least we got immersive sims like Dishonored 2 and Prey (2017) that allow you play as women.
 

Dragmire

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Whose side is he on? Is he only against sexualization when people tell him to do it?
Well, whatever amuses him I guess. Especially if what he said here is sincere:
Which character did you enjoy writing the most?
Yoko Taro: "It's my job, so none were enjoyable for me. I felt like a lowly laborer covered in mud, and as I typed my keyboard I was thinking 'I want to get this over with and have a drink. Wouldn't that be great?'"
 

RecLib

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Oct 27, 2017
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Its pretty safe to say we do not trust Ken Levine to handle a Daisy Fitzroy spin off right.
 

RecLib

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Yeah, you're right. The Burial at Sea retcon just made the issue with Daisy much worse.

I never got around to playing Burial at Sea, even when I was young and dumb and really into infinite. Seems too late to go back now. The retcon makes things even worse?


Yep, that goes without saying. Everything surrounding her in that game is shit.

Luckily Ken Levine should have no involvement in future Bioshock games.

I hadn't heard that Ken wasn't going to be involved in the next one. That's probably encouraging.
 

RedHoodedOwl

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I never got around to playing Burial at Sea, even when I was young and dumb and really into infinite. Seems too late to go back now. The retcon makes things even worse?




I hadn't heard that Ken wasn't going to be involved in the next one. That's probably encouraging.

I can't talk about this without spoiling the DLC.
 

RecLib

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"Oppressed minorities are the real bad guys when you think about it." was definitely a hell of a take they went with.
 

Jotakori

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On the other hand, Taro was told to design a swimsuit version of a SINoAlice character and he did this


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Which is kinda funny
I got a kick out of this, too, but then of course they had to go and make these two designs of her to compensate.

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Still kinda trolly in true Yoko Taro game fashion but also 😑
At least she's got a couple of pretty great regular designs, too, but still... SMH
 

ClickyCal'

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Oct 25, 2017
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it sounds like a direct hamfisted reaction to people not liking that scene, and also like it would be no good for the character, yeah.
Also in burial at sea
it ends up being Elizabeth that gives the secret code...aka would you kindly to Atlas while she then gets tortured and killed by him. So Elizabeth causes the entire downfall of Rapture and gets tortured for it.
 

Manu

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I got a kick out of this, too, but then of course they had to go and make these two designs of her to compensate.

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Still kinda trolly in true Yoko Taro game fashion but also 😑
At least she's got a couple of pretty great regular designs, too, but still... SMH
SINoAlice is weird like that. Some designs are super classy and badass, and some are pure smut.

Like Alice will go from some cool magical girl inspired looks like this:

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To... this.

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Jotakori

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SINoAlice is weird like that. Some designs are super classy and badass, and some are pure smut.

Like Alice will go from some cool magical girl inspired looks like this:

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To... this.

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Yeuuppp. I'm really loving sinoalice and when they nail good designs holy shit do they nail them, but god is there some real crap in there, too, lol.
At least the game relies on weapons over characters, so you can play as whoever and whichever look you want and never have to use any of the grossly over-sexualized stuff.
 

KujoJosuke

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For all its problems, Tales Of Crestoria isn't as bad as most other Gatcha games regarding designs. Since it pulls most of them from the games, and most of the games don't really have anything ridiculously over the top (minus like...Velvet and maybe 2 other girls), it does swimsuits that aren't real crazy, and each swimsuit banner had 1 girl and 1 guy as potential pulls. The new banner has Kitty Cat Waitress Rita which I was kinda scared about but the art for it is completely tame but still really anime, but yet still not nearly as bad as other gatcha games that we don't speak of

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While the regular SSR Rita is

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then you get guy swimsuit stuff like this

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wow what a nice young man
 

RecLib

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Also in burial at sea
it ends up being Elizabeth that gives the secret code...aka would you kindly to Atlas while she then gets tortured and killed by him. So Elizabeth causes the entire downfall of Rapture and gets tortured for it.

You all are really reaffirming past me never getting around to that dlc.
 
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infinite was a racist sexist mess on every level. *clutches daisy and elizabeth to my chest* they're mine now levine you can't have them

like imagine writing a black woman going CrAzY and having to be put down like a rabid dog by a white woman. n then retconning it so actually the black woman sacrificed herself for the white woman's character development. and then elizabeth [bas spoilers] gets tortured (in first person!) and then unceremoniously beaten to death with a crowbar or whatever levine meet me in the pit
 
Moon, the anti-RPG, is a relaxing strange game that is telling of where Toby fox got the idea of making Undertale.

While it not big on feminist ideas, it at least commentates your actions when you interact with stuff with game like approaches. There one moment where you look at a sleeping women which in other RPG (at the time at least) and a women stops you outside the house calls you out for saying how weird of you to do that. Giant bomb Quick look had that moment


Speaking of Undertale, shout-out to Undyne.


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RecLib

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I understand Moon's kind of a precursor to Chulip which is a game I absolutely love (though not for any reasons that could be especially positively called out in this thread). I'm putting Moon off for when I have less games going on than I do right now, but I'm very much looking forward to trying it.

It is the kind of game that makes you think about how many charming unique games may have never got localized and brought out west.
 
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For all its problems, Tales Of Crestoria isn't as bad as most other Gatcha games regarding designs. Since it pulls most of them from the games, and most of the games don't really have anything ridiculously over the top (minus like...Velvet and maybe 2 other girls), it does swimsuits that aren't real crazy, and each swimsuit banner had 1 girl and 1 guy as potential pulls. The new banner has Kitty Cat Waitress Rita which I was kinda scared about but the art for it is completely tame but still really anime, but yet still not nearly as bad as other gatcha games that we don't speak of

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While the regular SSR Rita is

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then you get guy swimsuit stuff like this

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wow what a nice young man
yeah, all the tales games i've played had pretty good female character designs.

granted, the last one i got into was vesperia so don't know where the series is at now outside of velvet's infamous outfit.
 
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also if u want an indie with a good female protagonist check out a short hike (YES i will pimp this game out to everyone i can no i'm not ashamed) and also night in the woods!!!
 

ClickyCal'

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Hopefully bioshock 4 can go back to just retcon the "always a man, always a lighthouse" thing so we get a woman protagonist.
 

RecLib

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Hopefully bioshock 4 can go back to just retcon the "always a man, always a lighthouse" thing so we get a woman protagonist.

I always interpreted the always a man to be referring to Comstock/Ryan, founding their crazy town with the lighthouse as an entrance.

I'm not saying that interpretation is even right, I just hadn't thought of it as referring to the protagonist before.

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other then comstock also being dewitt nonsense in infinite
 

RedHoodedOwl

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Nov 3, 2017
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I always interpreted the always a man to be referring to Comstock/Ryan, founding their crazy town with the lighthouse as an entrance.

I'm not saying that interpretation is even right, I just hadn't thought of it as referring to the protagonist before.

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other then comstock also being dewitt nonsense in infinite

Comstack's wife barely has a role in the story.
 

caff!!!

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I was considering trying burial at sea as I heard it was not awful but yikes. Also the base game is just wack in so many ways, the tone is wack, the gameplay loop is wack, the plot is wack, dewitt is a fool, fuck those mechanical dead presidents, and I dropped the game before the plot went wack 2000: the sequel with "oh no the guns to overthrow the captialists are behind an unopenable door and plot holes, time to do the time warp to a reality where the both sides revolution happens"

If anything, it sure made me more open to accept games like undertale than guns guns guns