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Why women criticise sexualised character designs |OT2| I have no pants and I must scream (READ OP)
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I mentioned this in the sex positive thread but it's always noticeable that these fanservive characters are never sexually active. They just pose and contort and jiggle but never have anything about their sex life. Almost as if the developers don't want to show sex so otakus can keep their "pure waifus" in lieu of actually creating well written relationships are something...
Leon Kennedy and Wei Shen. Both are not as sexually pleasing to look at as Dick, but they're still very attractive to a lot of people. There's so much smut art of Leon.So, is there any video game equivalent to Dick Grayson, as in a male character that is so defied by his sexual characteristics that its an integral part of his character?
Edit: I can't believe believe I forgot Balthier.
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Every time someone mention something along those lines, I always remember Zero from Drakengard 3 and how her whole deal is being an unrependant female rapist that goes around, killing her sisters to steal their boyfriend to make herself a harem.
Truly, methinks we'll never see another female protagonist like her.
Yikes, I mean obviously going in the opposite direction in not ideal either.
ok yup not missing anything then, figured the bar was just extremely (extremely) low
I disagree solely for the novelty of having a main protagonist like her. Seriously, were Zero male, nobody would bat an eye to her violent, cruel, foulmouthed and sexual behavior. Zero being a woman makes her stand out of the crowd. She reminds me a lot of Kratos form the original GoW trilogy.
I cannot deny the connotations are here, like while confronting Decadus after Zero killed Four.
But again, Decadus is a colossal masochist like five levels below I'd start screaming whatever is the save word of turn is. He's definitely bound to enjoy whatever Zero has for him in store.
I remember way back when, people were saying that about Morrigan from Darkstalkers and I was really confused and just assumed if they were outgoing, sexual characters that they "owned" their sexuality as opposed to some awkward, shy moe girl who constantly blushes or stutters at anything sexual.
Ha! That's a good way to put it!
Watching the opening video for Indivisible I am still very much looking forward to the game and I really like Ajna's designs but I'm a bit skeptical of the transformation I saw. :\
Anyone else looking forward to this?
Anyone else looking forward to this?
The multiple mashup mythology Valkyrie Profile angle of gathering fighting souls was intriguing but the demo featured a ton of platforming that had been my least favorite part of VP. As I understand it, they weren't able to hit their full voice Kickstarter goal which is a bummer. I'm curious though!
... I can abstract the ogre segment as intending to covey power moreso than sex appeal but I get that Trigger animations don't deserve that benefit of the doubt. Personal interpretation.
The Indivisible character designs throughout are delightfully wild and yet more restrained than I expected from the Skullgirls artist. I mean, they were bursting with creativity but also T&A.
I disagree solely for the novelty of having a main protagonist like her. Seriously, were Zero male, nobody would bat an eye to her violent, cruel, foulmouthed and sexual behavior. Zero being a woman makes her stand out of the crowd. She reminds me a lot of Kratos form the original GoW trilogy.
I cannot deny the connotations are here, like while confronting Decadus after Zero killed Four.
But again, Decadus is a colossal masochist like five levels below I'd start screaming whatever is the save word of turn is. He's definitely bound to enjoy whatever Zero has for him in store.
Yeah this is decadus' kink, zero isn't a rapist.
nice to know the monster hunter armors are made by an in canon chad family
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Young Smithy: Function is king in my trade, but you can't count out form entirely. |If it's not a LITTLE sexy, I'd be betraying the old man's legacy.
I'm so happy that I get to see the smithy talk about his aRtIsTiC ViSiOn now.nice to know the monster hunter armors are made by an in canon chad family
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Young Smithy: Function is king in my trade, but you can't count out form entirely. |If it's not a LITTLE sexy, I'd be betraying the old man's legacy.
I always button mash away the dialogue on those NPCs and seeing this... yeah I ain't missing out lolnice to know the monster hunter armors are made by an in canon chad family
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Young Smithy: Function is king in my trade, but you can't count out form entirely. |If it's not a LITTLE sexy, I'd be betraying the old man's legacy.
Has an RPG ever tried to actually tackle issues of gender inequality? Like, female characters having to deal with catcalls, constant condescension, higher equipment prices...
I ask because of how often people drone on about The Lore and The World Building in these things, but, in my experience at least, it's always really shallow stuff that falls apart if you so much as scratch the surface. In this example, for instance, how would a blacksmith with such an attitude stay in business unless his society had awful attitudes towards women - and, if that were the case, shouldn't the game display those attitudes outside of costume designs?
(I know, I know: video game writing is inherently juvenile and incapable of dealing with these things, but still...)
I ask because of how often people drone on about The Lore and The World Building in these things, but, in my experience at least, it's always really shallow stuff that falls apart if you so much as scratch the surface. In this example, for instance, how would a blacksmith with such an attitude stay in business unless his society had awful attitudes towards women - and, if that were the case, shouldn't the game display those attitudes outside of costume designs?
(I know, I know: video game writing is inherently juvenile and incapable of dealing with these things, but still...)
I think superficially (or at its worse: anime games where they will take at as a source of pride because of course they do). I think I remember some game trying to discuss it but it was an indie game that I can't remember the name of.
Can't really think of many examples.
I do remember a scene in Trails in the Sky (can't remember if it's FC or SC) where some male noble acts incredibly condescending or hostile towards a woman, and gets put back in his place quite sharply by the other women in the cast, who also point out the irony of how he got outsmarted by multiple women or something like that. Can't remember the specifics, though. I remember the character being Queen Alicia's nephew, Dunan, but I can't remember the details of the scene.
Can be Yoana from Witcher 3 be seen as one example of that? (and some other examples from the Witcher series)
"Despite being a master armorer, Yoana became Fergus Graem's assistant because many would never believe she, a human female, would be capable of making master armor. Fergus, being a dwarf, was far more likely to be perceived as a master armorer and thus the two struck an agreement for her to be his assistant, but she was the one crafting all the complex pieces.
When the local Nilfgaardian commander came by and ordered a suit of armor that could withstand a shot from a crossbow, Fergus stated it couldn't be done and Yoana, having enough, stated it could actually, with the right tools."
Can't think of any either. But RPGs sure do love to have npcs sexually harass or be condescending towards the main character if you pick the female option. Developers probably think it's some nice power trip since you often can retaliate, but shits annoying. I deal with that enough in the real world.
I would love for a game to actually confront gender inequality beyond flavor text and be able to do something about it. We often get to eliminate fantasy racism. Let me dismantle patriarchal societies too.
It's FC you're thinking of with that scene.
Does it have to be an RPG? The only game I can think that answers your question is No One Lives Forever.
I've been hesitantly curious about the game since the initial Kickstarter campaign. Some of the designs definitely leave something to be desired. *sigh* I wish we could get buff women in games with an anime/cartoon aesthetic that don't have huge, unrealistic tits.
I think that's why I like Amara from Borderlands 3 so much. Because even though she's cartoons they didn't go crazy with the cheesecake.
*looks her up* Yep, I need more designs like that in my life.
In Fate Grand Order, the female Miyamoto Musashi from another universe where she was openly a woman, wasn't allowed in the Throne of Heroes despite having the same accomplishments as male Miyamoto Musashi from the regular universe because men would refuse to speak the story of her accomplishments.
Anyone know of a fantasy story where most of the issues women deal with in the modern day are negated by really good world building and not by handwaving?
I keep hearing the women shouldn't be soldiers in fantasy stories because of natural law stuff but I really want something to point to when engaging in those discussions against those ideas. I also want to read speculative fiction on something like this.
I keep hearing the women shouldn't be soldiers in fantasy stories because of natural law stuff but I really want something to point to when engaging in those discussions against those ideas. I also want to read speculative fiction on something like this.
Greedfall has various women in high ranking positions such as militia and one of the leaders is an old woman, the Mother Cardinal. I think the game has overall good female representation.
Now granted there is speak of brothels and the like in the game but overall i find the female relresentstion in the game quite good.
Also regarding of colonialism concerns, the game lets u side woth the natives and is more in the natives side of things in the game.
Edit- oh and some enemy npcs are women.
Now granted there is speak of brothels and the like in the game but overall i find the female relresentstion in the game quite good.
Also regarding of colonialism concerns, the game lets u side woth the natives and is more in the natives side of things in the game.
Edit- oh and some enemy npcs are women.
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I think the latest Pathfinder rpg had a companion with a story dealing with those issues:
https://pathfinderkingmaker.gamepedia.com/Valerie
There are both men and women too in the brothels.
And most importantly, the armor designs. Man and woman counterparts look mostly the same, while man has masculine parts and woman has some feminine parts. No boobs armors!
Good job, Spiders.
I found Miranda in Mass Effect 2, and the lingering shots of her shrink-wrapped rear, extremely distasteful. Now I come to think of it, Jack (an abused child and disturbed adult) crying during her sex scene was absolutely gross.
Mass Effect jumped the shark for me when they introduced the absurd sexbot.
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yyyyyyeahhhh giving a game that explicitly presents colonialism as a grey morally complex issue a pass just because it doesn't have boob armour is like peak white feminism. so yeah, pass.
Oh God, I completely forgot about her. A robot with a camel toe. Utterly tasteless.
Bound By Flame had some decent armour designs too, except for an NPC or two which had shit like this. Fortunately the player character was fine and I liked the subtle visual updates when you'd do upgrades to them.
At first I thought that'd be incredibly cold, but it's black metal in the sun so I guess it's actually searingly hot! Bound by flame indeed.
I thought this too only give it to the ones who want it.
As the Dragon Age team got better with their female characters, the Mass Effect team got worse and worse.
Mass Effect's 'sexy' characters are about as subtle as a kick in the dick.
I'm honestly surprised the android didn't have nipples.
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