Why women criticise sexualised character designs |OT2| I have no pants and I must scream (READ OP)

[Xaszatm]

As for settings, yes. GOD yes. The settings have basically been reduced to 2 for pretty much any modern anime. Fantasy setting, high school, or fantasy setting high school (i.e., a combination of the first two). It's just so incredibly boring and unimaginative.

One more recommendation:
If you like chill anime, Aria is my favorite anime of all time. It's so relaxing... I love it.

Anyway, I'll stop posting about anime now. XD

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Now, you can't just drop Aria without dropping the manga Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou. Perhaps one of my favorites alt future slice of life mangas out there for its utterly mysterious world that also appreciates the fact that you don't need to know everything.

 

[spiritfox]

YKK is the good shit.

 

[esserius]

Now, you can't just drop Aria without dropping the manga Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou. Perhaps one of my favorites alt future slice of life mangas out there for its utterly mysterious world that also appreciates the fact that you don't need to know everything.

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Yeah... so gorgeous.

Choro Club is also god-tier music.

 

[Fat4all]

mean girls cool girls

 

[Tizoc]

Witch hunter robin is a name i hadnt heard in years

 

[Syril]

mean girls cool girls

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God damnit I need to pick back up Night in the Woods. I had finally started it back up again last Halloween, AND THEN DELTARUNE HAPPENED.

 

[Fat4all]

God damnit I need to pick back up Night in the Woods. I had finally started it back up again last Halloween, AND THEN DELTARUNE HAPPENED.

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its really good, but if ya wanna get the most out of it just like with undertale and deltarune, its best that you take your time and talk to everyone everyday

some really really good character moments in there

 

[esserius]

its really good, but if ya wanna get the most out of it just like with undertale and deltarune, its best that you take your time and talk to everyone everyday

some really really good character moments in there

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It's preeeeeety goooood. :D

(Seriously you should finish it tho Syril )

Also play Timespinner if you're into Metroidvanias:

 

[Platy]

mean girls cool girls

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[Fat4all]

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that sassy sassy frass

 

[Komii]

Yeah. Really disappointed in how he went about it.

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Man, that video was cringeworthy, of all possible ways you had to try to defend shield hero he just straight up chose the worst and talks as if he was nailing it.

I know the show is problematic as hell but i still kinda enjoy it, so it was a very painful thing to watch. Almost as painful as some charactes in the show choosing slavory really wtf Raphtalia you dont need that shit >_>

Ans his voice is just annoying :p

 

[caff!!!]

As for settings, yes. GOD yes. The settings have basically been reduced to 2 for pretty much any modern anime. Fantasy setting, high school, or fantasy setting high school (i.e., a combination of the first two). It's just so incredibly boring and unimaginative.

One more recommendation:
If you like chill anime, Aria is my favorite anime of all time. It's so relaxing... I love it.

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Aria is the shit, it and hidamari sketch got me into slice of life anime.

 

[Snormy]

mean girls cool girls

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I need to replay for Greg too.

Also play Timespinner if you're into Metroidvanias:

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This has been on my wishlist. Definitely looking forward to playing it but I'm a bit burned out from Hollow Knight, Iconoclast and Crosscode last year. Looks great though.

 

[Laughing Banana]

There have been multiple isekai in the same anime season where the main character engages in slavery at this point. And what makes it worse, is that it's always women that become slaves to men. And worse still, the protagonists do absolutely nothing, despite almost always having godlike or near-godlike powers, to change it.

So yeah, it's the worst, they're being promoted and for some reason, frequently popular (to the point of getting anime shows).

For as much as people speak about wanting more progressive states and ideals, media itself feels like it has regressed really fucking substantially from thirty years ago.

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That's why I like Gaikotsu Kishi-sama, Tadaima Isekai e Odekake-chuu. In it the hero actually work to dismantle slavery and sexual trafficking businesses, which is nice, hahaha.

 

[Deleted member 401]

Night in the Woods is so good.

Bea is the best.

 

[Oinone]

I think the other disturbing trend is the rise in anime and light novels where slaves go, "no, I want to be a slave to you!" and it's just... what the actual fuck?

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Is it new though? I'm frowning upon that for ages it seems.
Pushing yourself on someone / just being persistent long enough for the other one to fall for you is an often used trope in romance, especially same sex.
Hentai/Yaoi/Yuri takes it a step further with straight up rape as a starting point for a relationship.
:/

Witch hunter robin is a name i hadnt heard in years

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Boy, I know I watched it back in the day, but I remember nothing! Can't even they if I liked it. :o

 

[Deleted member 3208]

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Hentai/Yaoi/Yuri takes it a step further with straight up rape as a starting point for a relationship.
:/
Boy, I know I watched it back in the day, but I remember nothing! Can't even they if I liked it. :o

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One of the reasons why Bloom into You was a pleasant surprise. Sure, Touko was quite pushy, but she always asked Yuu before kissing her or sleeping on her lap.

 

[Sander VF]

Wounded Man is a an old manga work by the esteemed author of the Lone Wolf and Cub.

It has a woman falling in love with the main character after he rapes her in the jungle.

There's supposedly a romantic scene where she helps him by urinating on his face to wash off the blood he blinded with after a battle or something.

 

[esserius]

Boy, I know I watched it back in the day, but I remember nothing! Can't even they if I liked it. :o

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As forgettable as it was to you, it's still better than 99% of all anime released today.

There are entire seasons now where there's nothing worth watching, even in the context of, "I just want some throwaway entertainment". More content than ever before, so much of it awful.

Which unfortunately means your filter has to be much more aggressive and you have to be way more savvy about consumption, unless you're okay with 60+ 1-shot episodes to see what's available each season (only to find, in some cases, there's nothing worth watching). Can get even more complicated with all the staggered releases now too.

 

[Syril]

It's preeeeeety goooood. :D

(Seriously you should finish it tho Syril )

Also play Timespinner if you're into Metroidvanias:

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Mae is already one of my favorite videogame protagonists ever.

Timespinner has been on my upcoming list for a while. I was holding out to get through CrossCode first, but little did I know that CrossCode is fucking MASSIVE. It'll probably be my next metroidvania after I finish Touhou Luna Nights.

 

[Deleted member 19066]

There's supposedly a romantic scene where she helps him by urinating on his face to wash off the blood he blinded with after a battle or something.

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Reminds me of my college days. Oh, nostalgia...

 

[Jaded Photographer]

Boy, I know I watched it back in the day, but I remember nothing! Can't even they if I liked it. :o

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I have Witch Hunter Robin on DVD...last anime I ever blind bought since I don't remember liking it. It's not as good as Noir and I'm not sure if it's better or worse than Ergo Proxy since I don't like both for story reasons. Ergo Proxy has a horrible story, set in an excellent looking world with a cool main character. Whereas WHR has a bland story that kind of just doesn't escalate in any meaningful way and just ends.

 

[Zen]

My favorite woman protag from 00s anime is Yomiko from Read or Die. AKA The Paper. The OVA went pretty heavy on the sexuality of her coworker/rival, but Yomiko is contrast to that with basically normal non-sexualized office clothing and a sheltered personality (though don't ask me how she can fight in heels).

 

[esserius]

I have Witch Hunter Robin on DVD...last anime I ever blind bought since I don't remember liking it. It's not as good as Noir and I'm not sure if it's better or worse than Ergo Proxy since I don't like both for story reasons. Ergo Proxy has a horrible story, set in an excellent looking world with a cool main character. Whereas WHR has a bland story that kind of just doesn't escalate in any meaningful way and just ends.

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I can't really agree about Noir. The story's coherent but I'm not a fan of the characters and the story's really boilerplate (especially for the time, as spy stories were themselves a bit like isekai in the early 00s). Still, setting's way more interesting than pretty much anything we now.

Witch Hunter Robin is a fun anime to watch and chill to. Has some nice action scenes and the characters are likeable enough. Ergo Proxy's story is a mess but I honestly think the entire thing is kind of a mess. Just a lot of ideas thrown at a wall (some are interesting, some aren't). Re-L is a super cool character design though. I like the world too but the color is so dark (not muted, genuinely dark) it's hard to see a lot of it.

Serial Experiments Lain is a much better psychological anime if that's what you're looking for. Personal opinion, but for me it's the only anime I've seen that I'd really qualify in that way.

 

[Jaded Photographer]

I can't really agree about Noir. The story's coherent but I'm not a fan of the characters and the story's really boilerplate.

Witch Hunter Robin is a fun anime to watch and chill to. Has some nice action scenes and the characters are likeable enough. Ergo Proxy's story is a mess but I honestly think the entire thing is kind of a mess. Just a lot of ideas thrown at a wall (some are interesting, some aren't). Re-L is a super cool character design though. I like the world too but the color is so dark (not muted, genuinely dark) it's hard to see a lot of it.

Serial Experiments Lain is a much better psychological anime if that's what you're looking for. Personal opinion, but for me it's the only anime I've seen that I'd really qualify in that way.

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I really need to check out Lain some day, I know the basic plot of it. Noir, well it's good for the action and is fun enough, not really a high concept show though. Maybe I should rewatch WHR some day, haven't seen it in over a decade, might enjoy it the second time. Ergo Proxy is a definite mess though.

 

[crienne]

Mae is already one of my favorite videogame protagonists ever.

Timespinner has been on my upcoming list for a while. I was holding out to get through CrossCode first, but little did I know that CrossCode is fucking MASSIVE. It'll probably be my next metroidvania after I finish Touhou Luna Nights.

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Timespinner might be one of the most liberal games I've ever played in terms of representation, and is a fantastic Metroidvania overall.

 

[Xaszatm]

I can't really agree about Noir. The story's coherent but I'm not a fan of the characters and the story's really boilerplate (especially for the time, as spy stories were themselves a bit like isekai in the early 00s). Still, setting's way more interesting than pretty much anything we now.

Witch Hunter Robin is a fun anime to watch and chill to. Has some nice action scenes and the characters are likeable enough. Ergo Proxy's story is a mess but I honestly think the entire thing is kind of a mess. Just a lot of ideas thrown at a wall (some are interesting, some aren't). Re-L is a super cool character design though. I like the world too but the color is so dark (not muted, genuinely dark) it's hard to see a lot of it.

Serial Experiments Lain is a much better psychological anime if that's what you're looking for. Personal opinion, but for me it's the only anime I've seen that I'd really qualify in that way.

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Lol, then the anime director decided to make Digimon Tamers and HOO BOY was that an interesting anime.

 

[Deleted member 49179]

Could you help me navigate into the mess that is modern anime? It's been a long time since I could get into new stuff that could be qualified as "pure anime". See, shit like the slaves nonsense that was recently discussed here, or stuff like Goblin Slayer absolutely disgusts me. And all recent anime series seem to contain useless, unnecessary degrading and problematic stuff...

Here are the kind of things that made me really like anime when I was younger. Granted, some of those can also contain problematic things, but it's nowhere near what's in modern productions.

- Akira
- Ghost in the Shell
- Cowboy Bebop
- Samurai Champloo
- Wings of Honneamise
- Perfect Blue (and Paprika. Millennium Actress too)

- Studio Ghibli stuff (are those even considered anime?)

- Listing those made me think that I did saw two recent anime things that I liked on Netflix: Aggretsuko and Neo Yokio.

Where should I go from there? What are the modern shows/movies that are good with acceptable women character designs, and without useless degrading stuff?

 

[Latpri]

YKK is the good shit.

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The art and setting are just so dang comfy.

 

[Xaszatm]

The art and setting are just so dang comfy.

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The most relaxing apocalypse there can be.

Could you help me navigate into the mess that is modern anime? It's been a long time since I could get into new stuff that could be qualified as "pure anime". See, shit like the slaves nonsense that was recently discussed here, or stuff like Goblin Slayer absolutely disgusts me. And all recent anime series seem to contain useless, unnecessary degrading and problematic stuff...

Here are the kind of things that made me really like anime when I was younger. Granted, some of those can also contain problematic things, but it's nowhere near what's in modern productions.

- Akira
- Ghost in the Shell
- Cowboy Bebop
- Samurai Champloo
- Wings of Honneamise
- Perfect Blue (and Paprika. Millennium Actress too)

- Studio Ghibli stuff (are those even considered anime?)

- Listing those made me think that I did saw two recent anime things that I liked on Netflix: Aggretsuko and Neo Yokio.

Where should I go from there? What are the modern shows/movies that are good with acceptable women character designs, and without useless degrading stuff?

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I'd have to go look tbh. I kind of fell out of the anime wagon a few years ago and everytime I go back I'm...not impressed.

 

[Latpri]

Where should I go from there? What are the modern shows/movies that are good with acceptable women character designs, and without useless degrading stuff?

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Hinamatsuri is one of my favorite mangas and it got an incredible adaptation last year. A mysterious psychic girl falls onto the head of a mid-level yakuza and they end up bonding in a bizzare surrogate father-daughter relationship. Its incredibly funny and manages to touch your heart at times.

Also, its funny because the author actually sets up jokes and then delivers a punchline. Most Japanese humor is wildly overreacting to saying something stupid, untranslatable wordplay or intricate nets of threes company style misunderstandings. Hinamatsuri is funny in a way thats much more digestable to western audiences.

Hina is naked for about 4 seconds in the first episode but shes covered up by the scenery and its never shown again.

 

[Saucycarpdog]

Two female champions in league of legends, Kayle and Morgana, got visual updates. It's........how you'd expect.

Before

After

 

[esserius]

Could you help me navigate into the mess that is modern anime? It's been a long time since I could get into new stuff that could be qualified as "pure anime". See, shit like the slaves nonsense that was recently discussed here, or stuff like Goblin Slayer absolutely disgusts me. And all recent anime series seem to contain useless, unnecessary degrading and problematic stuff...

Here are the kind of things that made me really like anime when I was younger. Granted, some of those can also contain problematic things, but it's nowhere near what's in modern productions.

- Akira
- Ghost in the Shell
- Cowboy Bebop
- Samurai Champloo
- Wings of Honneamise
- Perfect Blue (and Paprika. Millennium Actress too)

- Studio Ghibli stuff (are those even considered anime?)

- Listing those made me think that I did saw two recent anime things that I liked on Netflix: Aggretsuko and Neo Yokio.

Where should I go from there? What are the modern shows/movies that are good with acceptable women character designs, and without useless degrading stuff?

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I mean, there isn't really a whole lot of sci-fi stuff available anymore. Even in anime it has kind of died.

If you liked Aggretsuko I think Wotakoi is a fun but dumb otaku-ish anime (still has a lot of problems though).

 

[Latpri]

Ive heard wonderful things about A Place Further than the Universe which is about some girls organizing a trip to antartica but I havent seen it myself. Ive got a very romantic view of Antartica though so Ive meen meaning to watch it, Im really enraptured with that place.

I mean, there isn't really a whole lot of sci-fi stuff available anymore. Even in anime it has kind of died.

If you liked Aggretsuko I think Wotakoi is a fun but dumb otaku-ish anime (still has a lot of problems though).

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When it comes to sci-fi theres the remake of Space Battleship Yamato 2199 that aired five years ago or so. You have to look past the skin tight uniforms and the fact that any women not named Yuki dont really get to do anything but its some of the only game in town.

Theres Suisei no Gargantia as well which is also 6 or 7 years old and its very obvious that the lead character designer cut his chops doing porn but you know, slim pickins on the scifi front.

 

[Xaszatm]

Two female champions in league of legends, Kayle and Morgana, got visual updates. It's........how you'd expect.

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After

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Morgan's best outfit is still the bakery one. Also, yikes at the bedwear combat outfit.

EDIT: Wow I forgot that the Bakery outfit had cleavage. Say hello to burns

 

[esserius]

Static_Void have you seen Mushishi? (Okay I know it's from the late 90s, early 00s, but still)

Also if you haven't already, watch Revolutionary Girl Utena as well. I'd be willing to argue that it's the most important anime ever made (or at the very least, shows the potential of what anime could be).

edit: Yeah... there is just fucking nothing that has been made in the past decade that is worth watching if you're into sci-fi... sorry. =/

There's really not a whole lot that's been made outside of sci-fi worth watching either. I guess it technically saves you some work and gives you more time to watch older, better shows though! :D


Check out Megalo Box for a show that at least has a 90s aesthetic, even though the story's pretty shallow:

(It's a sports anime, but a futuristic sports anime)

 

[Latpri]

edit: Yeah... there is just fucking nothing that has been made in the past decade that is worth watching if you're into sci-fi... sorry. =/

There's really not a whole lot that's been made outside of sci-fi worth watching either. I guess it technically saves you some work and gives you more time to watch older, better shows though! :D

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Yamatos an incredible show, just not within the confines of this thread. Im a sucker for naval battles in space though.

 

[Weiss]

Could you help me navigate into the mess that is modern anime? It's been a long time since I could get into new stuff that could be qualified as "pure anime". See, shit like the slaves nonsense that was recently discussed here, or stuff like Goblin Slayer absolutely disgusts me. And all recent anime series seem to contain useless, unnecessary degrading and problematic stuff...

Here are the kind of things that made me really like anime when I was younger. Granted, some of those can also contain problematic things, but it's nowhere near what's in modern productions.

- Akira
- Ghost in the Shell
- Cowboy Bebop
- Samurai Champloo
- Wings of Honneamise
- Perfect Blue (and Paprika. Millennium Actress too)

- Studio Ghibli stuff (are those even considered anime?)

- Listing those made me think that I did saw two recent anime things that I liked on Netflix: Aggretsuko and Neo Yokio.

Where should I go from there? What are the modern shows/movies that are good with acceptable women character designs, and without useless degrading stuff?

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Zombieland Saga and Wotakoi: Love is Hard for Otaku.

 

[esserius]

Morgan's best outfit is still the bakery one. Also, yikes at the bedwear combat outfit.

EDIT: Wow I forgot that the Bakery outfit had cleavage. Say hello to burns

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One cannot bake without... LINGERIEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

(seriously though, the fuck is that)

 

[Syril]

Also if you haven't already, watch Revolutionary Girl Utena as well.

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BTW don't know which regions it works in but Nozomi Entertainment has the entire series on their YouTube channel.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrrh84y760v-hDEulas0Tp_wiQy0FcjLl

 

[Biestmann]

Ergo Proxy has a horrible story, set in an excellent looking world with a cool main character.

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Ergo Proxy's story is a mess but I honestly think the entire thing is kind of a mess. Just a lot of ideas thrown at a wall (some are interesting, some aren't). Re-L is a super cool character design though. I like the world too but the color is so dark (not muted, genuinely dark) it's hard to see a lot of it.

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I can forgive a lot if I like setting, world building and character design, but I also can't say the story to be a mess as of now. Granted, a lot of shows went heavily biblical and philosophical during that time, and that surely isn't for everyone. Just like many people despise Wolf's Rain for its ending, when I think it is absolutely incredible. That show is basically what FF15 should have been.

One more recommendation:
If you like chill anime, Aria is my favorite anime of all time. It's so relaxing... I love it.

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Aria looks super cute! Will definitely give that one a shot.

 

[Xaszatm]

One cannot bake without... LINGERIEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

(seriously though, the fuck is that)

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"Funny" thing? That's the Outfit that covers the most skin. Everything else is bedwear at best.

 

[Jaded Photographer]

I can forgive a lot if I like setting, world building and character design, but I also can't say the story to be a mess as of now. Granted, a lot of shows went heavily biblical and philosophical during that time, and that surely isn't for everyone. Just like many people despise Wolf's Rain for its ending, when I think it is absolutely incredible. That show is basically what FF15 should have been.

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All I can simply say is that Ergo Proxy was not for me and most of that is plot wise, none of it resonated with me and there's not a lot in it that I would think would warrant a rewatch. I actually liked Wolf Rain and the ending wasn't worth the hate, it was just different.

 

[Xaszatm]

...I liked the plot of Ergo Proxy...

 

[Jaded Photographer]

...I liked the plot of Ergo Proxy...

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Sometimes I think Ergo Proxy is just one of those popular shows that I'm most likely never going to come around to liking, the same with Baccano, which I have watched twice and didn't like it both times.

 

[nank]

Complaining about sexualized <x> isn't helpful and is pretty close to screaming into the void (or preaching to the choir, depending on where you are). Straight men have always been attracted to sexy straight women, and straight women have always been attracted to sexy straight men, and sexy everything has been attracted to sexy anything (LGBQ and the rest). There's nothing wrong with any of that.

The earliest art pieces in history feature rather voluptuous female figures - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_figurines. Again, there's nothing wrong with that. People are attracted to whatever they're attracted to, and you can't stop that from happening unless you want to go full 1984.

If you want to attack sexy character designs, you'll also have to attack:

• Magazine covers (men and women)
• Raunchy novels (men and women)
• Sexy actors and actresses (men and women)

The list goes on and on.

Dick jiggle physics were featured on Beowulf from Skullgirls. Also, it's a big disingenuous to say that the only sexualized men are the ones with dick physics. There are countless male characters who feature everything from rippling abs (countless) to Snake's perfectly sculpted asscheeks. Sexualization affects both sexes, not just women.

People enjoy what they enjoy - that's literally how entertainment works. Videogames are an entertainment medium like any other. Who are you to say that people aren't allowed to enjoy X or Y? Surely they have the right to enjoy what you don't enjoy?

As an example, I strongly support LGBQ rights, and have numerous close friends who are either gay or trans. However, having attended multiple gay pride parades, I strongly think that dressing up as sexual costumes in said parades damages the Gay Pride movement in general. Anti-LGBQ ideology views gay men as sexual deviants (which is quite incorrect), but dressing up as sexual deviants to shove it to the homophobes.... I don't think it solves anything.

Even so, if gay men find dressing as as such enjoyable for themselves and others... who am I to judge? Anti-gay ideology is falling over time, and I'm happy about that.

There are plenty of strong female characters in games. How they dress has no effect on how they play or what their personalities are. Just off the top of my head - Bayonetta, Siege, Automata - they feature both sexy and strong women.

After all this - the core of your arguments regarding feminism in gaming - do you think "sexism" in videogames affects sexism IRL? If yes... I think Jack Thompson would like a word with you. If no, then why does it matter?

 

[Biestmann]

You know, we have been off-topic for a while now, but after being back on topic now... I think I preferred that.

 

[Latpri]

You know, we have been off-topic for a while now, but after being back on topic now... I think I preferred that.

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Fearing being off-topic and derails is the cowards path. Lets talk about Hinamatsuri.

 

[Saucycarpdog]

Complaining about sexualized <x> isn't helpful and is pretty close to screaming into the void (or preaching to the choir, depending on where you are). Straight men have always been attracted to sexy straight women, and straight women have always been attracted to sexy straight men, and sexy everything has been attracted to sexy anything (LGBQ and the rest). There's nothing wrong with any of that.

The earliest art pieces in history feature rather voluptuous female figures - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_figurines. Again, there's nothing wrong with that. People are attracted to whatever they're attracted to, and you can't stop that from happening unless you want to go full 1984.

If you want to attack sexy character designs, you'll also have to attack:

• Magazine covers (men and women)
• Raunchy novels (men and women)
• Sexy actors and actresses (men and women)

The list goes on and on.

Dick jiggle physics were featured on Beowulf from Skullgirls. Also, it's a big disingenuous to say that the only sexualized men are the ones with dick physics. There are countless male characters who feature everything from rippling abs (countless) to Snake's perfectly sculpted asscheeks. Sexualization affects both sexes, not just women.

People enjoy what they enjoy - that's literally how entertainment works. Videogames are an entertainment medium like any other. Who are you to say that people aren't allowed to enjoy X or Y? Surely they have the right to enjoy what you don't enjoy?

As an example, I strongly support LGBQ rights, and have numerous close friends who are either gay or trans. However, having attended multiple gay pride parades, I strongly think that dressing up as sexual costumes in said parades damages the Gay Pride movement in general. Anti-LGBQ ideology views gay men as sexual deviants (which is quite incorrect), but dressing up as sexual deviants to shove it to the homophobes.... I don't think it solves anything.

Even so, if gay men find dressing as as such enjoyable for themselves and others... who am I to judge? Anti-gay ideology is falling over time, and I'm happy about that.

There are plenty of strong female characters in games. How they dress has no effect on how they play or what their personalities are. Just off the top of my head - Bayonetta, Siege, Automata - they feature both sexy and strong women.

After all this - the core of your arguments regarding feminism in gaming - do you think "sexism" in videogames affects sexism IRL? If yes... I think Jack Thompson would like a word with you. If no, then why does it matter?

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This has to be a parody. It's a like a point by point post of everything this thread has refuted time and again.

 

[Icemonk191]

Complaining about sexualized <x> isn't helpful and is pretty close to screaming into the void (or preaching to the choir, depending on where you are). Straight men have always been attracted to sexy straight women, and straight women have always been attracted to sexy straight men, and sexy everything has been attracted to sexy anything (LGBQ and the rest). There's nothing wrong with any of that.

The earliest art pieces in history feature rather voluptuous female figures - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_figurines. Again, there's nothing wrong with that. People are attracted to whatever they're attracted to, and you can't stop that from happening unless you want to go full 1984.

If you want to attack sexy character designs, you'll also have to attack:

• Magazine covers (men and women)
• Raunchy novels (men and women)
• Sexy actors and actresses (men and women)

The list goes on and on.

Dick jiggle physics were featured on Beowulf from Skullgirls. Also, it's a big disingenuous to say that the only sexualized men are the ones with dick physics. There are countless male characters who feature everything from rippling abs (countless) to Snake's perfectly sculpted asscheeks. Sexualization affects both sexes, not just women.

People enjoy what they enjoy - that's literally how entertainment works. Videogames are an entertainment medium like any other. Who are you to say that people aren't allowed to enjoy X or Y? Surely they have the right to enjoy what you don't enjoy?

As an example, I strongly support LGBQ rights, and have numerous close friends who are either gay or trans. However, having attended multiple gay pride parades, I strongly think that dressing up as sexual costumes in said parades damages the Gay Pride movement in general. Anti-LGBQ ideology views gay men as sexual deviants (which is quite incorrect), but dressing up as sexual deviants to shove it to the homophobes.... I don't think it solves anything.

Even so, if gay men find dressing as as such enjoyable for themselves and others... who am I to judge? Anti-gay ideology is falling over time, and I'm happy about that.

There are plenty of strong female characters in games. How they dress has no effect on how they play or what their personalities are. Just off the top of my head - Bayonetta, Siege, Automata - they feature both sexy and strong women.

After all this - the core of your arguments regarding feminism in gaming - do you think "sexism" in videogames affects sexism IRL? If yes... I think Jack Thompson would like a word with you. If no, then why does it matter?

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