Oh all facts.
It is a thing but I'm willing to bet my life savings that the black men who support Trump probably don't even listen to rap music lol
Yeah, I didn't really read that passage as Obama laying the blame on rap for Trump's increase in Black support so much as pointing out that those parallels were already there.
The higher your income is, the more likely you are to read and subscribe to papers and real news outlets. The more likely you are to trust expertise. The more likely you are to be able to discern whether something is trustworthy or not. I'm of course not claiming that fake news is only shared/read by poor and middle class people, but to say there's no correlation is not correct. It's not purely class, but it is reinforced by class.
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Yeah sorry, my bad. Reading comprehension. I see what you're saying. Whether or not you want to indict neoliberalism in these things depends on how your broader perception of where these trends come from and what reinforces them.
The example falls apart when you think about how your average Trump supporting negro probably doesn't even listen to rap music. Nobody is shocked that it was said just surprised a bit that this is passing for political analysis.
Yeah I think the current perception of mainstream hip-hop is due to the nature of radio stations themselves and the type of music they choose to broadcast. You'll never hear any socially conscious hip-hop on the popular radio stations; only bands, bitches, and Bentleys 24/7. This is the same for other music genres as well. If your song isn't related to relationships and/or sex in any way, good luck getting played. This is why I'm glad streaming services have largely become the norm.
Yeah popular rap is way different than rap as a whole, and I know exactly what hes talking about. But really its a lot more based on the chauvinism, this is a similar thing with some male latino voters as well going for trump. Poor mans idea of Manliness.
We're going off topic but this isnt really true. Kendrick and Cole are two of the most successful rappers in the game right now with broad mainstream appeal and radio spins and their music is as conscious as it gets in 2020. Kanye West has said multiple times in the past that he owes his career to Jesus Walks a song that had mainstream success and radio spins.
Yeah hes not. Just one simple example some men dig trump because he reeks of misgony
Grab em by the pussy, I know other dudes that think and talk like that or are just straight assholes and yes it does resonate with some dudes. Not all of em. But trump been on rappers psyche for a long time in a lot of raps back in the day.
Lmao. Yeah this kinda is in the house talk. But its very very true. Megan can never act up like how future can.
Romney definitely wasn't, but McCain? He sold himself as a war vet political maverick. The fact that he embodied an older, more primitive form of American male chauvanism (religious, soldier, domineering) vs Trumps newer hypercapitalistic chauvanism (fame, business acumen, "political incorrectness") does not change that both were selling different variations of American male-hood. Trump's version was simply more in tune with whats popular today.
Right, but the Republican candidate in 2016... was also Donald Trump. I am just not understanding the variable that changed w.r.t. culture. There are discernible changes in economic conditions though.
I finally got around to watching The Social Dilemma this weekend and it was eye-opening to see how people are genuinely operating under different realities. I think we're fucked unless the big tech and media companies change their tune in a big hurry (they won't because there's less profit to be made in peddling truth).
I'm not against indicting neoliberalism where it makes sense and to the extent it actually is to blame. I just don't see it as particularly complicit in the remarks that Obama has made here.
I know this is tangential to your actual point but IIRC Obama's hand-picked candidate was not Joe Biden and he in fact dissuaded him from running.
Reminds me of the Pynchon quote... "If they can get you to ask the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." (Biden has actually used that quote.)
He was picked at the end, but agreed with your point about reports saying Obama didn't want him to run.
For 2016 for sure, but there's been reporting that Obama was instrumental in getting everyone to drop out and endorse Joe at the end of the primary. Which may have been the right call.
That's kind of my point though. He's talking about the deterioration of our civic life and social stability without seriously addressing the economic structures. Some of that is on the interviewer. It was the same in the book excerpts that have been released though. It's also been the case with his interviews and writings on the topic in the past.
Obama made calls for the other candidates to drop out and helped align the barrage of endorsements in the 72 hours before Super Tuesday.
On WHAT topic? Not everything boils down to our economic structures and it's completely disingenuous to suggest he hasn't acknowledged, discussed and tried to address economic inequality on many previous occasions.
The topic of our political dysfunction and our backslide from democratic norms. The main topic of the interview.
If 400 years haven't clued you in, there's nothing black people can do to prevent whites people from being racist. That's white folks' collective failure. If you want to critique the example on other grounds, sure have it. But "what will the whites think?"
It's not about "what will the whites think" it's actually has more to do with the fact that Obama, a former president not just any random racist, is platforming respectability politics and spouting off racist tropes passing it off as legitimate political analysis to seemingly avoid reckoning with the shortcomings of his party this election. It should be pushed back against when someone of his stature in our society starts with this shit
