Do any of Valve's employees even remember that Big Picture Mode or the Steam Controller even exist? The UI has been left to rot as complete garbage.
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Why nobody bothers to improve their game platforms, while Steam improves despite being THE leading platform (Valve revamped soundtrack feature)
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BPM is still updated and should be the next big thing to get a redesign. As for Steam Controller, SCAPI is literally getting improvements every week or so... so yeah.
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Blimey! Monopoly spends money to improve user engagement through technical changes to make more money!
Gamers: "options are great! Why should we be forced to use Steam? Epic is actually paying more!!"
Steam: *adds independent soundtrack purchasing so that devs can earn more revenue for their work, adds new features that other platforms aren't even attempting
Gamers: "nah just use Spotify, new update sucks"
Anyway, personally I can appreciate this sort of thing for the people that want it. Maybe I'm missing something, but if I could take the soundtracks I buy and upload them to iTunes Match, I'd probably buy a few. Is that possible with these purchases? I would think so since they're stored locally.
Steam: *adds independent soundtrack purchasing so that devs can earn more revenue for their work, adds new features that other platforms aren't even attempting
Gamers: "nah just use Spotify, new update sucks"
Anyway, personally I can appreciate this sort of thing for the people that want it. Maybe I'm missing something, but if I could take the soundtracks I buy and upload them to iTunes Match, I'd probably buy a few. Is that possible with these purchases? I would think so since they're stored locally.
If it's good people will want to spend money, and that's great.
It's awful when you NEED to spend money where you don't want to because exclusive deals.
Congrats to Steam for implementing soundtracks as a separate entity from games, you know, something that Sony implemented more than 10 years ago. Truly the trailblazers of our time.
I hate steams recent ui changes. My library feels like a mess now. I have never listened to soundtracks on steam
Yeah no, EGS is trash in pretty much every way especially in look. It's one of the worst platforms straight up.
People who love video games so much that they just listen to the soundtracks in their spare time rather than like a band or a rapper or something are fascinating to me
Maybe because they have everything else lol
Many stores today don't even let you refund.
It doesn't really have anything to do with loving games, there are plenty of video games I dislike that have excellent soundtracks and I would still think so even if I wasn't a gamer. I listen to plenty of music outside of OST's but just because a piece of music is part of a soundtrack doesn't automatically make it "music only for listening while playing" anymore than say, EDM, Classical, Jazz etc.
This is super disingenuous. Steam has made fairly massive improvements and additions to their platform, service and backend over the past half a decade. Just because it's not directly visible as an obvious UI element doesn't mean it's non-existent (though I do wish they did quicker work on updating and modernising the UI and UX of Steam, I don't think it's awful but it is outdated - Valvetime and all that). Not to mention that it's not like every other platform has a decent soundtrack system either.
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It's still music? Are "a band or a rapper" the only valid sources of music out there?
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I disagree. It looks miles better than Steam's outdated design.
Steam does a great job a rolling out new/improved features over time. I don't even see how this could be debated. Even if a feature is not something that I feel that I would use, I am always happy to see them. Options are great, even if atm they are not important to me.
Also, I really wish Epic would add a damned wishlist.
Also, I really wish Epic would add a damned wishlist.
How does that work if you want to transfer your music to your phone or whatever device you use for music?
Do you download the soundtracks via your console and then transfer them to an USB stick or such?
Or can you download them via an external website?
Bluetooth?
Congrats to Sony for properly implementing account and refund systems.
Wait.
Doubly so with them because they have to answer to shareholders.
I wonder why no new store has tried the option of users "reselling" their games back to the store. When you give the game back so to speak you get a certain % back in store credit depending on what you paid for it for example (you couldnt be able to buy cheap during a sale and get back more than you paid for example). It would need to come out of the stores 30% cut or whatever but that may actually be a value added service people would care about rather than spending the money on money hats.
I'm still using the old one, I wonder how long until it breaks without the new one
doesn't get people all tingly in the pants like the words "EXCLUSIVE" splashed everywhere. But yes, I think cashing out old titles is a great idea and would mobilize people to spend more on newer games.
You do realize that Valve only has around 350 employees and they work on a ton of things besides Steam like Half Life Alyx, Steam VR, CSGO, DOTA2, DOTA Underlords, TF2, Steam hardware, Steam OS, network infrastructure, game prototypes that never see the light of day, developer relations and more right? I seriously doubt more than a dozen or two people primarily work on Steam (people can move around so no doubt this number fluctuates). Valve is actually a really small company despite the popularity of Steam and some of their games.
Many have band/rapper contributions! HEALTH did an excellent soundtrack for Max Payne, Ben Babbitt, who contributed arrangements on the Angel Olsen record, did the excellent KRZ soundtrack, Lupe fiasco and snoop have both contributed to fighting games, etc. Most sports games also have a curated ST, but im unaware if they are available for purchase.
This isn't even mentioning really loved composers that are mainly known for games, like nobou uematsu (final fantasy) or lena raine (celeste), there is in general a large audience for diff kinds of music even if they arent top 40!
Ok it takes Valve YEARS to make changes and they have unlimited money and no share holder pressure, so that is why.
Also, i know that ppl like to err on the side of the consumer and disregard things like steam's cut if it means a better consumer experience, but it's really important that artists be paid!
Rather than seeing an itunes-lite from steam, with the same cut, id rather see a service like bandcamp integrated or support for artists like a space to advertise their patreon or smnth.
Rather than seeing an itunes-lite from steam, with the same cut, id rather see a service like bandcamp integrated or support for artists like a space to advertise their patreon or smnth.
Steam most recent update in it's chat feature broke it for my PC. It's so slow and clunky, and somehow I have less information about my friends play activities than before. When you don't have to assure that your new features works as well as the previous one in the same hardware, push changes is easier.
Also, 20 years of experience in digital plattaforms can't be bought for all the money in the world. To copy steam, the competitor need one thing that can't be bought: time.
Also, 20 years of experience in digital plattaforms can't be bought for all the money in the world. To copy steam, the competitor need one thing that can't be bought: time.
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Love me some game soundtracks and use Steam a lot, now that they have made soundtrack support not stupid anymore (having to install the game to get to the soundtrack was... very stupid), I will definitely be picking up more soundtracks. Already grabbed a couple in this sale.
I can't help but feel like people are oversensitive to UI visuals. The Steam UI isn't "ugly", it's fine. The EGS client is also just... Fine. The main difference is that Steam is leagues more functional and provides far more and better information than almost anything else out there, console UIs included.
Also, what the fuck does "modern" mean in UI design, the definition practically changes every couple goddamn years. Though honestly while "flat" UI design is, well, clean and functional, I guess, it's also not really all that interesting or exciting.
But yeah, Steam is still way ahead of the pack in terms of features. EGS should really be able to catch up, but Epic started way behind everyone else did and also started drunk and throwing its money around to compensate. EGS is still fucking trash and it's almost baffling how the client is still way behind in terms of base features that should've been in from the fucking start.
Also, what the fuck does "modern" mean in UI design, the definition practically changes every couple goddamn years. Though honestly while "flat" UI design is, well, clean and functional, I guess, it's also not really all that interesting or exciting.
But yeah, Steam is still way ahead of the pack in terms of features. EGS should really be able to catch up, but Epic started way behind everyone else did and also started drunk and throwing its money around to compensate. EGS is still fucking trash and it's almost baffling how the client is still way behind in terms of base features that should've been in from the fucking start.
This was a necessary change but I don't know why I'd choose to buy a soundtrack on Steam over Bandcamp even with this change.
To be fair, it was doomed to happen even without OP's title. Every Steam or EGS discussions turn into "Opinions: the thread".
One way to improve Steam would be not allowing massive amounts of shitgames being released on the service every week, and I don't see them doing any efforts on that front. They even encourage developers to release unfinished games and still charge for them, which is a crazy concept to me.
? Seriously question what is wrong/not factual in what I said?
Most updates from Valve take years and they have unlimited money and time is that wrong?
And just to clarify I have a steam account that is from 2003 beta time and still using it to this day I have been on steam longer then some have been alive here.
Yeah it's super discouraging to ever try and have PC-centric topics (especially Steam topics) on this website. OP's title may have been a bit inflammatory, but for the thread to have completely crashed and burned because of bullshit, off-topic posts left and right... It's just like, god damn people love to bitch about Steam no matter what strides or improvements Valve make.