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Why is there no modern cop game?
- Thread starter Blue Skies
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I'm glad because it would likely be completely tone deaf. The "good cop" archetype is a fucking joke and one that can only exist in fiction.
Some of us here to know what it's like. Also, I understand where people are coming from with the ACAB sentiment. Never affected me, or how I felt the public saw me as someone to look for to help them without fear of being targeted, etc., because of their skin color.
these posts are always so funny cuz there is that data show that American policing is shity as fuck in from the ground up really racist. But yes is the bias media.
I appreciate your responses and clarity, really I do. I just think the majority DON'T use "ACAB" to mean what you so eloquently explained, but rather to mean that all cops are mindless, corrupt drones. And that was my original argument. Maybe "TSiB" (The System is Broken) applies more, but that's just semantics...
This thread just reminded me how much I want to play Disco Elysium.
I never got that sentiment living in NZ, but understand that its a common sentiment where a lot of people live. I think fantasy sci-fi settings like Astral Chain are pretty cool either way.
There's an interesting thread for exploring this with Miles that I'm a little sad we will likely never see.
A murder machine cop would traumatized a good portion of society who fear they will meet that cop everyday. Whether you're okay with that or not, I dont think AAA companies want that kind of imagery in their games. They would get a lot of back lash for it.
Its why I think Netherrealm no longer uses Striker in Mortal Kombat. Witnessing police violence is a haunting reminder of some people's reality.
Disco Elysium is about the best we can hope for in terms of like, a detective game. A AAA developer wouldn't really be able to do that because they wouldn't be able to sell the game without lots of shooting. You'd just get another LA Noire or Battlefield Hardline, or at this point even just a slightly different version of The Division.
MAYBE one day you could see some indie developer manage to put together a spiritual successor to the SWAT series.
MAYBE one day you could see some indie developer manage to put together a spiritual successor to the SWAT series.
26 posts in over two years.
One of those posts was to say you would refuse to buy Persona 6 if the protagonist was a woman.
Another was to say that a cosplayer getting banned for blackface was part of "cancel culture."
People with a knee jerk "no" reaction are letting their judgement cloud any potential the concept has even though we've seen in multiple mediums (including gaming) that it can be well received. Counter Strike and Rainbow 6 Siege are incredibly popular, many adventure games have you either working with or playing detective in tandem with law enforcement, we even got an incredibly well received action game starring cops recently.
those poor oppressed cops
whatever will they do because people rightfully hate a profession that at its very core is an organization designed to maintain the status quo of the rich and powerful and oppress the lower classes, especially poor people and minorities
The mission where you save the kidnapped women from the serial rapist-killer is still fresh in my mind. I would love there to be a high-budget modern game exploring those kinds of topics from a perspective of a SWAT team, or a detective.
Seems like this thread shows why you're not seeing it much lately. Pretty divisive thing right now so I can't imagine publishers want to back anything that large amounts of people may not play based on the character.
Sci-fi shooter or military shooter seems like a much safer risk than cop experience right now.
Sci-fi shooter or military shooter seems like a much safer risk than cop experience right now.
This. Kinda disappointing about the generalization in this thread.
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Because soldiers let you go Blam Blam and also can narratively fill most of the roles a cop can in a game.
The only one they don't fit really is the detective / investigation stuff, which has had a decent handful of games, albeit mostly indie and not specifically in the role of a member of the force.
The only one they don't fit really is the detective / investigation stuff, which has had a decent handful of games, albeit mostly indie and not specifically in the role of a member of the force.
I just need a game that allows you to cuff criminals. Last game I played that allowed me to do that is True Crime: Streets of LA.
The only series I can think of that fits this formula is the True Crime series, which I believe the True Crime Hong Kong game became what we now know as Sleeping Dogs.
Still a true bonafide Police game is could be turned into a game. I mean doing investigations, following up on a response to a police report, responding to request for backup on the radio.
It would be essentially the anti-GTA more or less. Although the Investigations and Office stuff could probably be handled much in the manner of Papers, Please in which you need to review case files and evidence.
Still a true bonafide Police game is could be turned into a game. I mean doing investigations, following up on a response to a police report, responding to request for backup on the radio.
It would be essentially the anti-GTA more or less. Although the Investigations and Office stuff could probably be handled much in the manner of Papers, Please in which you need to review case files and evidence.
That sounds great! I'll have to play This Is The Police. I'm surprised there aren't thinkpieces on why that game stands out amongst all the other cop propaganda.
New Zealand, where Maori are more likely to be overly incarcerated than whites, and where the police and justice system are called "fundamentally racist" doesn't sound very different from where most people live.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-...-study-shows-maori-more-likely-to-go-to-court (27/02/2020)
A new study has shown police are almost twice as likely to send a first-time Māori offender to court, than a Pākehā.
The JustSpeak study did a fresh analysis of police, justice and census data from 2013 and found that Māori are 1.7 times more likely to end up in court than a Pākehā offender.
It also shows Māori women who are arrested in their late teens or early 20s are twice as likely as Pākehā women to end up before a judge.
JustSpeak board member Tamatha Paul (Ngāti Awa, Waikato-Tainui) said: "As a young Māori woman reading this research, it frightens me, and then to look at the leaders of our country and see that the rhetoric is largely around punitive policy like the Armed Response trial, this doesn't give me much hope that the government is actually committed to solving the issue of over-incarceration of Māori.
"This illustrates the essence of what research has shown from the likes of Moana Jackson for a long time that our justice system is fundamentally racist."
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Police were also required to undergo unconscious bias training, although it was not evident yet whether it was working.
"We're still yet to look at an evaluative process but what we have is we've put leaders in place where we've trained many of our staff again in unconscious bias ... and that training will then go into every district around the country."
Hastings City councillor and community worker Henare O'Keefe said it would help if police were more involved in Māori life.
"Policeman [used to] coach the local rugby team, or they sat on the marae committee, all that sort of thing helped to build that relationship, so maybe modern day policing in order to go forward we need to go back."
"More brown faces within the police would certainly help and maybe a noho marae for new recruits, they may not agree with it but it would at least give them an understanding and more of an empathetic approach."
I full out modern remake or sequel to Police Quest would be a blast!
Too bad that the True Crime games just fizzled out, Streets of LA was really fun despite the bugalooza it was hehe.
Too bad that the True Crime games just fizzled out, Streets of LA was really fun despite the bugalooza it was hehe.
Ok I'm black too ya black card will be mailed to u in 3-5 business days 🤷🏿♂️. Yes my mindset is based off of my personal experience only... not the hundred years of black ppl dealing with this issue. If those " good cops" aren't marching in the streets/ denouncing their brotherhood when they do obviously fucked up shit then they are bad cops.
All black ppl don't wear the same uniform n take the same oath n consider themselves brothers in arms lol. To compare that to ppl thinking all black ppl are minorities is laughable n suspect af.
Go talk to a cop about toxic. Their toxic culture is rooted deep in the establishment. Acting like it's not that bad or that every single person who is a part of that establishment who isn't constantly n openly denouncing it is bad is not something I'm prepared to do bruh. It might be different in the suburbs tho idk I'm not out there often.
Nope actually. I've been a Bobbie for 11 years and im not racist or a bully or any of those things.
Resetera gets on its high horse as soon as it feels a group of people are misrepresented yet it's ok to tar every police officer with the same brush.
In my time I've met racist and god awful shite officers but they have been in the minority. Shit people like there are in every walk of life. Not the majority.
Some of you will have had bad experiences with the police and that's why you hate them. However to say we are all like that is just complete and utter bollocks.
I figured there might be something like this and having grown up in this region (5% Maori population) I haven't ever heard any kind of distaste for the police and didn't know the disparity for incarceration was that significant. That sucks and needs to change, but like many I can only really comment on my local police (anecdotally via the people I know and the people I know who work there).
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Off topic, as a cop myself, I agree that there are certainly evil cops. I understand that it's a profession that certainly can and does attract a certain type of person (evil) that seeks to abuse the system and its power. But that does not discount that there are plenty of good cops that are good natured people who want to serve and protect in positive ways. But, again, the good certainly does not discount, erase, or justify the bad.
I don't think my agency is perfect. But in my time here, we have certainly rooted out some bad people. I'm also proud that we have an entire division/road units dedicated to lower income community relations, who actively participate in community outreach programs, such as safe trick r treating zones for kids and Christmas toy programs for needy kids.
My agency overall is pretty occupied with helping our community/jurisdiction (over 50% black), keeping lines of communication open, and staying active to serve and protect. Certainly a stark contrast to a neighboring civi service policing agency with a municipal jurisdiction that seems to have issues about public perception.
On topic, I should have picked up Battlefield: Hardline the numerous times it's been on sale for $5. Some of the positive postings have pushed me to do so next time.
Edit: I see the deluxe edition is in the current March sale for $5. Will try it out.
I don't think my agency is perfect. But in my time here, we have certainly rooted out some bad people. I'm also proud that we have an entire division/road units dedicated to lower income community relations, who actively participate in community outreach programs, such as safe trick r treating zones for kids and Christmas toy programs for needy kids.
My agency overall is pretty occupied with helping our community/jurisdiction (over 50% black), keeping lines of communication open, and staying active to serve and protect. Certainly a stark contrast to a neighboring civi service policing agency with a municipal jurisdiction that seems to have issues about public perception.
On topic, I should have picked up Battlefield: Hardline the numerous times it's been on sale for $5. Some of the positive postings have pushed me to do so next time.
Edit: I see the deluxe edition is in the current March sale for $5. Will try it out.
In my line of work, we have systems in place to out bad and abusive staff. If something is suspected either by staff or by a service user through complaints, it's put into an incident form or safeguarding alert, and then a full investigation will be conducted on that staff member to verify the claims and if found guilty, fire them. This can be escalated to the very top. If abuse occurs, it affects the whole service's reputation and is taken very seriously. After all, our work is to deliver the best level of care to people in need, not to protect our own or others' jobs. We have independent governing bodies like CQC to make sure every minute detail is up to scratch, down to using the safest bins for medical equipment. I've seen quite long-standing team members suspended or fired because of certain bad practices that might be routine and normalised but nevertheless there are consequences.
Do you cops have systems in place similar to this, like how can complaints of abuse or discrimination escalated up the chain to oust bad cops? How are whistleblowing and victims protected? Independent investigation bodies to keep police in check? How do good cops kick out bad cops? How do the police police themselves? Thank you for your service and hope things get better.
In the UK we have PSD and the IOPC as well as other internal whistleblowing options be that to supervision or confidential phone lines to name a few.
There are numerous options and they do get used. Body cams have been massive for the UK as we have them on at most jobs now so how we act and what we say are fully recorded.
There are numerous options and they do get used. Body cams have been massive for the UK as we have them on at most jobs now so how we act and what we say are fully recorded.
So gangsters, soldiers, mercenaries, knights, ninjas, assassins, vikings etc. etc. are all cool but we can't have a cop game because that would be wrong? Come on lol
I always liked detective games and Sleeping Dogs was my favorite GTA-style game. I wish Rockstar would give it another shot.
I always liked detective games and Sleeping Dogs was my favorite GTA-style game. I wish Rockstar would give it another shot.
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I'd like a game with detective work where you solve smaller crimes and then go after a serial killer through the entire thing.
I mean, in LA Noire you play as a cop who's also a shit, and you work with cops who vary between kinda okay and shittier than you are.
Also there's SO MUCH PEDOPHILIA in that game. And it's almost never what you were investigating. It's always like "Yeah so this guy's been manipulating underage girls/boys into bed but you're going to jail for this stolen car!"
That campaign is underrated, had so much fun with it. It was a bit easy, seeing as though you could make most enemies surrender without firing any bullets, but it was really enjoyable!