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Why is there no modern cop game?
- Thread starter Blue Skies
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Turns out people hate cops. (For valid reasons)
Personally, I don't like playing as a cop myself, and wish games like Astral Chain WEREN'T cop games, I'd like there to be less.
Being a PI instead of a detective is more interesting in general since you don't really answer to anyone as well.
I find it funny people are saying you cant make a Cop game because cops are corrupt and violent but find no issue with GTA lol
The real reason is to make most shooters fun, you need a high body count. Something which would feel very wrong given you're suppose to be a cop, not a mercenary.
If you made it a detective game with some shooty bits... That is something we definitely should see more of. Think LA Noire with more puzzle solving.
The real reason is to make most shooters fun, you need a high body count. Something which would feel very wrong given you're suppose to be a cop, not a mercenary.
If you made it a detective game with some shooty bits... That is something we definitely should see more of. Think LA Noire with more puzzle solving.
Judgement is very good. It's also a spin off from the Yakuza franchise.
I was being hyperbolic. Wrongly so I admit.
But I do feel Spidermans response to a lot of the crimes these people are committing is somewhat disproportionate.
If I remember right you can non-violently chain up criminals that aren't attacking you.
Problem is that people that are just spraying are classified as criminals that have to be taken care of with force without any kind of reflection.
This is a strange take to me when we have playable characters like Trevor.
Personally, I'd rather hang out with a psycho like Trevor than with a Cop even as loose canon as he is.
I mean, Graffiti is a crime though. Its not like you just see them committing graffiti and open fire, you gotta use the monster to chain them up and take them down to the station.
Serpico: The Game, with the 60s-70s setting to boot, would be the best possible option for a cop game. Something with focus on dialogue and grander decisions as opposed to reactive action-focused gameplay like combat. Sounds like Disco Elysium's approach would work well.
otherwise, you end up with either a completely straight-laced boring law enforcement equivalent of Farming Simulator-type experiences, or something that's actually action-packed, but inevitably glorifies terrible aspects of police. For a straight-up action game, a setting with relatively fantastical factions/motivations would be best, like John Wick, if sensitive subject matters are a concern
You tie them up in a chain and they fall to the ground harmlessly.
Also the story doesn't hesitate to imply what happened to your character was inhumane.
Why can't a topic about an organization that is at its institutional core racist, be about anything other than what they are?
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The topic isn't about the organization tho
It's about a game in which you are part of the organization
I believe OP meant something more "grounded" I guess. I don't think you're getting one from western developers anytime soon and even Astral Chain was/is getting critics for having to play as a cop.
Yeah all those poor cops that were born cops and are at the fringes of society battling oppression from, huh, *checks notes non cops.
you could call this SWAT 5 and I'd believe you. Looks awesome.
Those poor systematically oppressed policeman.
Because society can only exist in the framework of the police state.
Those aren't cop games though. Most of their runtimes, Max is either going rogue or isn't a cop.
"TPS" or "Tactical Shooter" aren't (and really shouldn't) be synonymous with "cop game."
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About a game
That doesn't exist
That no one said would honor the organization
You play as a cop in Astral Chain and we still had threads here about whether that was problematic.
Police aren't glorified anymore given far too many abuses of power and incidents causing innocent death. A police officer needs to more-or-less justify applied force and using their firearm. I just don't know how that would work in a game. Even if you bust into a room full of drug dealers, you can't really just shoot them up without it being problematic. Throw in race, innocent NPCs, and meme-culture, and you've got a potential disaster on your hands. Unless it was a cop fighting off aliens, I just don't see it.
Max Payne 3 kind of feels like an undercover private investigator cop game. Max Payne 3 was so damn good.
Police aren't glorified anymore given far too many abuses of power and incidents causing innocent death. A police officer needs to more-or-less justify applied force and using their firearm. I just don't know how that would work in a game. Even if you bust into a room full of drug dealers, you can't really just shoot them up without it being problematic. Throw in race, innocent NPCs, and meme-culture, and you've got a potential disaster on your hands. Unless it was a cop fighting off aliens, I just don't see it.
Max Payne 3 kind of feels like an undercover private investigator cop game. Max Payne 3 was so damn good.
Society literally needs the power to enforce law to exist, unless you want to rewrite 3 millenniums of philosophy. Also the correct term is "civil society", not "police state".
If the game doesn't exist it isn't about anything. It's also about everything because we're discussing possibilities. You want to talk about the possibility of a cop game without having people discuss cops. It's like asking for a game where you play as a terrorist and then be surprised that people say terrorism is bad.
This is dumb. There's no comparison here. Cop is a fucking profession.
Ah yes I forgot the police existed in literally all of recorded history and society.
The implication that the existence of police makes society civil is a laugh and a half though.
It's obvious why many wouldn't be thrilled at the idea of a "cop game". So let's not attack each other over this.
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Personally I'm down for more detective games. The Sherlock Holmes games were fun, I'm sure there's a way to make a "modern" version too (though, personally, I tend to prefer historical settings over modern ones).
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Personally I'm down for more detective games. The Sherlock Holmes games were fun, I'm sure there's a way to make a "modern" version too (though, personally, I tend to prefer historical settings over modern ones).
It should be like GTA, but you play as a modern cop where you go around covering for your crooked comrades, juking stats for corrupt politicians, murdering minorities and harassing working class people and if you get caught, you get desk duty.
I'd play the fuck out of this game if it was honest satire with a hint of social commentary... like an over the top "the wire"
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- I wholly agree with the bolded statement, but it's as laughable as the implication that ALL cops are corrupt PoS. And that's coming from someone who has faced racial profiling quite a few times in his life. Do I trust police? It's hard for me to. Do I think they're all terrible human beings because of the actions of some of their colleagues? No. Make no mistake, I'm not defending the system, but I think statements like "ACAB" are just potshots that don't actually bring meaningful dialogue to the problem.
EDIT: As for the OP, I think the idea of a full-blown cop game would face a lot of opposition (as you can see in this thread alone) and may not sell well.
Hardline was really good man, I wish Visceral had more freedom with not and not tie it with the Battlefield IP.
Ah yes sorry. How could I forget that the world only is about the USA.