And 6 months after launch EA are going to use this as justification that Switch owners don't want to play EA games.
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Why in the world is Burnout Paradise Remastered on Switch $50USD?
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Yes they launch their own games on their own platforms and charge full pop for ports. They set the pace on their own consoles so 3rd parties follow suit.
As always though when the game stops selling EA will drop the price. This isn't evil, it's following suit with Nintendo on their console. It's business.
There is a difference in availability which is leans things in TF's favour but then that's wiped out again after finding out Nintendo had already permanently reduced the price of the game on Wii U to $20 when they added it to their selects range so their price increase for the Switch port feels even more egregious.
EA can price games however they like. But when the exact same game with the exact same content releases for a higher price than it did on PS4 and X1, I think there are questions to be asked.
Nintendo doesn't set the price of third party games. Not sure what you expect them to do about that. I got NBA 2k19 for $4 on the eshop for example. Not going to praise Nintendo for that either.
As a side not though, I'm not buying Skyrim or Doom til they hit $30 Canadian. Not worth it imo.
That's way too high a price but why is that Nintendo's fault? They didn't publish the game or set the price.
They don't set the price. But the set the tone for the console when they were pricing their own ports and almost never putting their games on sale or lower price. Of course 3rd parties will keep their game prices high even when ports when Nintendo does it themselves. If Nintendo changed their own practices other devs would follow suit.
Look at Gamepass for example. Do you think there would be so many big 3rd party games on it if Microsoft wasn't putting their own games there? First party sets the tone and the practices for the console. It's always been that way.
Why lower your price or sell for less when people on Switch have proven they are willing to pay full price for anything as long as they want to play it
Because Switch owners don't believe games depreciate in value, so they'll pay more money for old games.
Publishers know this.
Publishers know this.
I mean, did your son enjoy it? :)
I get it though. The game's been on sale at least a couple times for 50% off digitally, but it does bother me to see it at $40 everywhere else, but the Switch tax adds $20. To its credit though, the fact that I can play it handheld was worth paying $30 during the last sale, since I was actually able to finish the game this time and am now playing through the Dawnguard content, which I really like.
So Nintendo is allowed to price gouge, but third party pubs aren't? Never mind that the Wii U version launched at $50.
Because Nintendo.
You forgot, they sold ppl Mario Kart 8 (a 3 year old game at the time) for $60? don't even get me started on DKC tropical freeze and SMBU deluxe. If first party pricing is like that then what is stopping 3rd parties from doing it? Majority of the switch library is over priced ports of 1-3 year old games. Doesn't matter cause ppl will buy it and no one holds them accountable anyway.
Man Sony should have asked $100 for Gravity Rush Remastered and Tearaway Unfolded because nobody owned a Vita.
It's literally how businesses work. If the big boy does it, you do it to. If the big boy is releasing good prices ports and dropping games prices after a while you do it to so you don't get left behind.
These are businesses. They will charge as much as they can get away with.
It's not that obvious if way more developers are doing exactly the same and getting more than decent sales. Businesswise it seems like a logic choice for them to do so, like a lot of other publishers are doing.
Witcher III did the same and got almost a million sales.DK:TF added 10 bucks and sold 3 million plus copies etc.
Sorry but those games aren't even in the same galaxy brand and quality wise as the games Nintendo is allegedly charging full price for
I would buy this if there wasn't tons of third party ports for cheap on the Switch all the time. $4 for NBA 2K. $25 for Crash. $25 for World of FF Maxima. $25 for Mario + Rabbids. $15 for Rayman. $17 for Resident Evil Revelations 2. Witcher 3 isnt that old and it has already been at $50 on the eshop. Diablo, MK11 and Civilizstion 6 are all half off right now. Dragon Ball FighterZ is regularly $20
There are lots of sales on Switch games all the time. Nintendo's pricing sucks but it's not this thing that makes games never reduce in price. Like it sucks your kid spent $80 on Skyrim but it isn't Nintendo's fault Bethesda wont reduce these games below 50% off. Lots of 3rd party games regularly get deep discounts.
DKC and NSMBU are fair game for critique, but I don't think the pricing for MK8D was *that* bad considering it also contained all the DLCs and added a new mode.
When are they gonna follow Nintendos suits in terms of marketing and new quality games for Switch then ?
There is a reason why Nintendo can charge 50 bucks for their ports or why a game like BotW is still full price in its 4th years - whats EA justification ?
Yall acting as if Nintendo and EA have the same sales expectation and consumer trust on Switch is hilarious. So yeah that "following Nintendos example" argument is BS since it only seems to be applicable on the higher price - but not on new features/content, same day/date releases and marketing efforts.
It is - but some people think EA can and should charge as much for a late port of a Dead IP as Nintendo does for their evergreen titles.
If third parties actually followed Nintendo's lead nothing on the eShop would ever go on sale lol.
It's funny because if you own a Switch and browse the eshop you would know third party stuff is always on sale. It's more specific companies who discount less. Bethesda specifically doesn't really discount. Comparatively, Square Enix, Ubi and Activision discount a lot.
It's funny because if you own a Switch and browse the eshop you would know third party stuff is always on sale. It's more specific companies who discount less. Bethesda specifically doesn't really discount. Comparatively, Square Enix, Ubi and Activision discount a lot.
And price is the main factor.
The reason that BOTW is still full price is because that's what Nintendo does, it has nothing to do with the quality of the game. There are a lot of HIGH quality games that still sell gang Buster's that have their prices drop. Price is 100% the issue here.
I hate the argument of "well hurr quality do they can price however!" It's a bad disingenuous argument. Nintendo does it because they can and they know they will make money. People try and act like Nintendo is your friend when all the do is take advantage of that.
I and 100% on board with tropical freeze being sixty. I get they upped the resolution to 1080 and added funky kong, but nah, I can't get behind that. However Mario U+Luigi U for 60 I feel is fair. Luigi U was fantastic and almost felt like a brand new game. Those two were 90 bucks physical and 80 bucks digital on Wii U.
EDIT: I too agree that Bayo 2 Should've been cheaper.
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And you know what, lots of games, third party games, goes on sale on Switch regularly at 30-75% off. So there goes your argument about tone setting. We are not discussing sale price but the starting price
Stop flip flopping your points of reference and trying to fit a round peg into a square hole
bit late to the convo but I've noticed that Nintendo digital games are always WAY too expensive, thought so on 3DS, think so now as well on switch its one of the biggest reasons I've only bought games physically for the switch
Totally. It's a straight port of a two year old remaster of a game from 2008. People can drag Nintendo's own Switch ports for being overpriced but none of them have been this egregious. If it also came with Takedown & Revenge or if they made significant additions or changes to Paradise it would be a different story.
We don't even know if this port will be any good because you absolutely shouldn't assume it will be.
Never said that. I'm questioning the efficacy. EA is not Nintendo.
Also the comparison make no sense. Tropical Freeze does not have ports on other platforms that are half the price. Same with the otherWii U ports.
Bayonetta 2 should've been $20 since it was a 3 year old game when it launched on switch... I can go on. My point is, you cant get mad at 3rd parties for doing this cause its a proven price gouging tactic pioneered on the platform by Nintendo themselves.
Eh, It's about quality and standing behind the value of your product. Grand Theft Auto 5 stayed 60 dollars for 5 years, and no one complained. It's hard to it's Nintendo fans that are conditioned when their franchises are reach all time highs with the Switch. It has to be ok with the masses beyond that for a game like BoTW to still be selling millions a year. Conversely, One could say Sony is conditioning people to wait 3 months to get their games because they'll be 33-50% cheaper.
Mario U + Luigi went Nintendo selects in EU. Tropical Freeze went Nintendo Selects in EU and NA. Was significantly cheaper.
Straight ports with 0 additions should not launch full price imo.
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It's a lost battle. It's Nintendo. You will never convince them that Nintendo is in the wrong or does anything bad. BOTW still being full price is good for consumers....
There are multiple reasons why Nintendo can charge these people ices....do you think EA checks the same points on Switch for it audience ?
People just comparing the prices in a vacuum without anything else don't make any sense. Unless you think Nintendo could and would charge 60 bucks for their games if all they delivered so far on Switch were 2 old ports and inferior Fifa versions.
Come on.
But hey maybe we are all wrong and EA is smart as hell for this price point and the game is gonna be a million seller like mosh Nintendo games. Legs just wait for results and see how it works out for them.
It's never been about quality as to why Nintendo games stay high priced. Nintendo specifically changed their shipping and pricing strategy heading into the Wii era.
Nintendo aren't fucking special. The same way 2K doesnt sell NBA cheap 4 months later every year because its bad. The microransaction revenue is enormous. More buyers into the ecosystem means more microtransactions.
Business is business.
High Nintendo prices suck but I appreciate I can trade in or resell one Nintendo game and basically fund buying another game. So there is that at least. Considering how dead the WiiU is I got a lot for my games all things considered.
Nintendo aren't fucking special. The same way 2K doesnt sell NBA cheap 4 months later every year because its bad. The microransaction revenue is enormous. More buyers into the ecosystem means more microtransactions.
Business is business.
High Nintendo prices suck but I appreciate I can trade in or resell one Nintendo game and basically fund buying another game. So there is that at least. Considering how dead the WiiU is I got a lot for my games all things considered.
Nintendo themselves have charged more for a port of a Wii U game to the Switch than what it cost at launch on the Wii U. Now their first party games sell more than any other platform holder, so it's no surprise that games like Breath of the Wild are still 60 dollars, but it still sucks for us consumers.
This is definitely the upside to what I typed above.
ah. mario and luigi is still 60 here in the states for wii u. I don't care if they are the same price honestly. I just don't want them to cost more. If i don't see thee value in the price, I just won't buy it.
You can believe Bayonetta 2 is worth $20 and that MK8D wasn't worth $60, that's your prerogative. However those games on the Wii U weren't priced lower than they were released at on Switch.
The problem being talked about here isn't just high port prices, it's port prices that are higher than the launch price of the exact same game on PS4 and X1. So far I can only find one example of Nintendo doing that and that was Tropical Freeze and they were rightly roasted for it. Capcom were also massively criticised when they released Resident Evil at a higher price than it launched at on other platforms. Yes these business can do whatever they like but they can and should be hung out to dry when they try and pull something like this.
I know this and it's been mentioned a number of times in the thread (including by me). I was questioning why someone was annoyed at Nintendo for the price of a Bethesda game. I don't see how these points are related.
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To clarify, I still would rather the games be cheaper. If NSMBU was $40 I would have bought it already.
Oh yeah, like ea is the first to charge extra for the switch version.
They are doing because switch owners have no problem paying this price.
They are doing because switch owners have no problem paying this price.
Somebody out there wants to play Burnout Paradise bad enough that they'll pay $50 for it. Why charge any less if someone's willing to pay that price?
It may be late to the party, and it may be overpriced, but!!... at least there's no "Download Required" on the box art for the physical copy (yet).
It's always funny how these threads just always devolve into, 'Well, Nintendo does it!' Like, who gives a shit what Nintendo does? It has absolutely nothing to do with EA or Burnout. Who cares? This thread should have devolved into begging for remasters of 3 and Revenge, like God intended.
Switch Tax is indeed real.
A big reason why i haven't bought a lot of 3rd party games for the system.
A big reason why i haven't bought a lot of 3rd party games for the system.
Its tinged with so much salt they are not made in good faith. You also see comments that boils down and dismisses the Switch as a platform. What are the chances the person making that post doesnt like the platform. Very high I gather