It is a design choice, but one could argue that they could work on the aspects of the games that would be messed up by autosaving rather than just clinging to an obsolete way of implementing saving. It's not inept, but maybe a slight bit backwards.
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Why doesn't Pokémon have autosave yet?
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It is a design choice, but one could argue that they could work on the aspects of the games that would be messed up by autosaving rather than just clinging to an obsolete way of implementing saving. It's not inept, but maybe a slight bit backwards.
It's a rarity among RPG's.
Most of the other games that don't use multiple save files are level based games, meaning that even on that one save you can go back to any point of the game play that part again without starting from Zero again.
I was talking about the multiple save slots since that was the point I raised at the beginning of the thread haha
I don't believe it needs it. Manual saves are fine. If you can't take five seconds to open the menu and save the game, that's on you.
Right? Everytime someone suggests a feature that's pretty much standard in modern games and that would obviously improve the game, he comes out of the woodwork with some lame excuses of why it would never work for Pokémon.
He did the same thing when people suggested getting rid of random encounters but then after Let's Go came out he did a complete 180 and now says how much he loves it.
Would solve the problem of cloud save also. They shouldn't give the player any kind of save control.
If it effects save scumming or shiny hunting in anyway im opposed.
And due to the setup of shiny legendaries and online trades it probably would.
At the end of the day it takes like 5 seconds to manual save so i cant find it in me to care
And due to the setup of shiny legendaries and online trades it probably would.
At the end of the day it takes like 5 seconds to manual save so i cant find it in me to care
I voted no, not because I dislike autosaving, but because I don't trust Gamefreak to not mess up the application of it. That said, multiple game slots should have been a thing for the mainline Pokemon titles ages ago. And no, we shouldn't have to make another account on the Switch just to replay an entry despite it being a step up from buying another cart or completely erasing your game.
Octopath has a autosave slot that activates everytime you enter a different area.
Octopath has a autosave slot that activates everytime you enter a different area.
Because a sub-sect of 30-something vocal manchildren will have adult tantrums if their cartoon game about magic electric mice dares add a single feature that most games have had for the last 20 years.
This is how I feel as well. We already saw how GF went about adding simplistic difficulty options. I shudder to think whatd theyd do with autosaves
If you need to resort to save scumming to get the most enjoyment of the game I'd argue the game needs a serious design overhaul.
Well said.
Legendaries would be more legendary with auto save. I'm fine with the current system, but auto save could be cool.
Nope. And if you need to savescum to do it, neither should anyone. That is an argument for mandatory autosaving, making shinies truly rare while sparing players from playing the game in a dull way never intended by the designers.
Pretty much this.
I see the issues with autosave regarding the series' current design but...honestly, that's easy to work around, and it's such a big quality-of-life thing that it would be worth changing the game's design slightly to accommodate it.
It would be interesting as part of a higher difficulty option
Only one chance to battle a legendary? fail, and no restarting can save you
Only one chance to battle a legendary? fail, and no restarting can save you
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Don't forget about how there was no way Gen 1 and 2 would get VC releases because there was no way they'd implement wireless trading and battles.
It would ruin shiny hunting and I hope they NEVER add it to the series. Multiple saves as well.
You start a new game. You just accept you missed out this run. Or they implement some post game way of getting them to respawn.
This is exactly what I think, and it was what I was going to answer entering this thread.
It should definitely be an option.
Every ERA thread about Pokémon by non-Pokémon players always makes me scratch my head. The rarity of Pokémon is a thing Game Freak believes in. If it really bothers you, stop playing them, I guess? The number of save slots is not a an incompetence thing or technical limitation. It's very very very intentional.
Definitely not necessary. But it would be a welcome option for some I'm sure. Emphasis on option. Having manual saves is vital to my enjoyment of the game.
As for having multiple save slots, it'd be pretty nice, but I think their idea is they want you to connect more with your Pokemon in one. Also shitty when you have one console and have to buy two games for two people when you wouldn't be able to trade anyways
As for having multiple save slots, it'd be pretty nice, but I think their idea is they want you to connect more with your Pokemon in one. Also shitty when you have one console and have to buy two games for two people when you wouldn't be able to trade anyways
More shit than saving and resetting thousands of times to get a super rare shiny? We clearly have very different ideas of what sounds shit.
So now youre telling people how to play their game cool.
Everyone stop hunting now.
That's not really my point. I just think it's poor game design if you intentionally create something rare in your game, and then let people get around the scarcity by reloading their save. It pretty much forces the players who are invested in shinies to play the game in a way not intended by the designers, a way that I honestly doubt anyone find entertaining.
I don't want people to play games in a particular way, players can and should play any way possible within the confinements of the game design. What I want is game designers to design their games well, giving players a good experience.
Believe it or not shitloads of people LOVE shiny hunting.
Theire are entire forums and reddits and discords dedicated to shiny catalogs.
And streamers who only play the main game to get to the hunt after.
So yeah im opposed to introducing an autosave if it would take away that fun
So few RPGs use autosaving function because of how it can often times wall you out of something, so I don't see why Pokemon needs an autosaving function. RPGs have largely moved to a save anywhere anytime function anyway, which is much better and only takes a couple of seconds to open the menu and click save.
Except Dragon Quest 11, where if you get a game crash you'll be setback a good ways if the auto-save function didn't save before a crash (and the auto-save function is very infrequent) so you'll have to start all the way back from the church or a sacred statue and will have to talk to a bunch of people and re-open chests to recollect stuff and get information all over again, losing up to an hour or so of your progress.
Except Dragon Quest 11, where if you get a game crash you'll be setback a good ways if the auto-save function didn't save before a crash (and the auto-save function is very infrequent) so you'll have to start all the way back from the church or a sacred statue and will have to talk to a bunch of people and re-open chests to recollect stuff and get information all over again, losing up to an hour or so of your progress.
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Maybe its because Pokemon is the only JRPG I play, but I can't think of a single western RPG that doesn't have both autosaves and manual saves.
Yeah or cloud saves. Flagship Pokemon game on flagship Nintendo console doesn't support core feature of online service. Ugh.
I'd be okay either way in regards to auto saving. As long as I have the option to turn it off in lieu of manual Saves in the menus, all is good.
As for multiple save slots...Switch does have multiple profile saves, so it doesnt bug me all too much...but that would be cool. Being able to dupe legendaries isn't a problem for me anyways, if I have a party of Mewtwos, so be it.
As for multiple save slots...Switch does have multiple profile saves, so it doesnt bug me all too much...but that would be cool. Being able to dupe legendaries isn't a problem for me anyways, if I have a party of Mewtwos, so be it.
Indeed, I'm hammering the manual save after and before every enemy encounter in games if possible, autosaves are all nice and all but in no way dependable since it can set you back half an hour. I'm also saving constantly because even though it never happens, I don't want to loose anything if the power gets out outage.
