This.
And no one gives a shit about Muslims, sadly.
This.
Because a bunch of TransEra members worked hard to make that happen (and I salute their efforts wholeheartedly). The treatment of Cyberpunk 2077 did not come out of thin air; it was the result of a lot of pain, effort and discussion. If you want more done on this site to raise awareness and action regarding Uighur exploitation, I would suggest organising with other users and opening a dialogue with site management.This is not a flippant question, so please don't think it is. Why does a company like CPDR get one thread only for its game cyberpunk, and has a header post detailing its various bigotries, yet companies involved in slave labour don't even get a header post?
If ever there was going to be a forum that makes the effort to at the very least bring light to this, surely it's this one?
My stance on it.
I would agree that not having the resources to report on this in depth is a real thing but that still doesn't mean complete silence.
If a gaming site or tech site get a one on one interview with the boss of playstation, Nintendo, Xbox, apple etc etc how many do you think would dare to even bring up this issue and question such bosses on whether it was right to still manufacture in China with what we know is going on there?
They wouldn't do it just like if they have a one on one with CDPR they wouldn't question them on there crunch issues or transphobia.
Can't be biting the hand that feeds them.
Because a bunch of TransEra members worked hard to make that happen (and I salute their efforts wholeheartedly). The treatment of Cyberpunk 2077 did not come out of thin air; it was the result of a lot of pain, effort and discussion. If you want more done on this site to raise awareness and action regarding Uighur exploitation, I would suggest organising with other users and opening a dialogue with site management.
Also I'm just going to say it; white mainstream culture just doesn't care about horrible stuff being done to Muslims. The genocide perpetrated against the Palestinian, Uighur and Rohingya people just doesn't get the airtime these issues deserve. Can't let human lives get in the way of hegemony and profit.
HK protests were talked about a lot by the gaming press. Capitol insurrection was talked about a lot.
There is nothing stopping journalists from talking about BBC and other reporters coverage.
Not sure how that is unrealistic. Ppl will talk about what they care about, and what they want to talk about.
The gaming worlds indifference is the same as the worlds. Islamaphobia.
Gaming is white mainstream culture - But youre right - it should not be difficult to have this pinned.Should it be so difficult though? And it's not just white mainstream culture. There's a lot of shit happening that lots of cultures don't seem to care about. I see your point though.
They don't need to go to China to uncover the atrocities. Let BBC do that. What they can do however, is do actual gaming journalism by reaching out to companies that do business with China and get their stance on the concentration camps. Are they still OK doing business with countries whose governments systematically rapes, abuses, tortures and brainwashed its own people? Are they OK with instances of forced labor from these camps making their devices?Frankly, no one in the gaming sphere has the sources needed to report this story. If you want to report this story you need sources in China willing to talk about it. These are the kinds of sources that foreign correspondents at places like the BBC and NYTimes spend entire careers cultivating. And frankly, no editor is going to pay for a trip to China for a gaming journalist to cover this from that angle. Expecting dudes that normally report on stuff like crunch or release delays to have the sources needed to report this is just silly. This isn't the sort of story where you just dial a guy at Blizzard or Nintendo, this is REAL journalism and it's the sort of thing people risk their lives to report. Y'all are acting like this is easy, that it's a matter of a few phone calls. The BBC has talked about reporters literally being chased out of China by dudes in trucks for just trying to cover this.
BuzzFeed has a 4 part expose on this and there was a year's gap between parts 3 and 4. They literally had to track down a refugee camp in the middle east to find sources. There was over a year between the BBC first reporting it and the new stories they're putting out. This is happening in a country that ain't exactly friendly to journalists in the first place and they'll be even less friendly when they find out someone's trying to cover this.
This is the sort of story covered by foreign correspondents and investigative journalists, not a beat reporter working the gaming industry. We'll probably start seeing stories from them as the information becomes more and more widespread and accessable, but until then, it's the sort of stuff people die trying to report.
You're talking to JudeoChristians who don't care that Muslims are being killed. They use any excuse to absolve themselves of any blame or complicity.Honestly, I'm looking at some of the replies here, and imagine if Variety, THR and Deadline remained silent on Weinstein after WaPo, NYT and other "real" journalists published the story of his abuse, this is what some of your arguments sound like.
Honestly, I'm looking at some of the replies here, and imagine if Variety, THR and Deadline remained silent on Weinstein after WaPo, NYT and other "real" journalists published the story of his abuse, this is what some of your arguments sound like.
I did not want to involve myself in this topic but it's too late now. But so much this. Video game websites report and reference off other video game websites and sources all the time. Are you telling me they can't report or mention the journalistic reporting the bbc has done already.Honestly, I'm looking at some of the replies here, and imagine if Variety, THR and Deadline remained silent on Weinstein after WaPo, NYT and other "real" journalists published the story of his abuse, this is what some of your arguments sound like.
Honestly, I'm looking at some of the replies here, and imagine if Variety, THR and Deadline remained silent on Weinstein after WaPo, NYT and other "real" journalists published the story of his abuse, this is what some of your arguments sound like.
I listen to Triple Click with Jason Schreier, Maddie Myers and Kirk Hamilton, and they'll occasionally talk about the difference between games journalism and the enthusiast press, and I totally agree with that. 95% of games journalism is actually just enthusiast press.Sadly, I think there's really not that many outlets that do an actual journalism. It's more of a question to those who consider themselves journalists.
Yup. This is why I say the answer begins and starts with islamaphobia in our culture and in us. Thats all it boils down to. You cannot address this question without addressing the Islamaphobia it stems from.
You can see it here in this thread. Some ppl on Era genuinely believe journalists in the gaming world should not report on this, which is just astonishing.
Imagine ppl here saying sports journalists should not report on BLM.
Yeah, this seems like a notable reason why.Because in the end the world really, really doesn't give a shit.
The vast majority just want their videogames, iphones etc. and that's it.
They don't care how they are made or about human suffering.
And nor do they want to be reminded of their lack of care. That would just make them feel bad, and we can't have that.
Did I miss something? Is there a noteworthy outlet that meets these criteria?
But it IS related to gaming if slave labour is being used for gaming products.Obviously these issues are important, but they're gaming sites. I'm not going to rag on them for not reporting on non-gaming things. That's for the regular media to report on. Just my two cents.
Not the gaming journalists itself but the industry they cater to and the capitalism economy is heavily China dependable.Did I miss something? Is there a noteworthy outlet that meets these criteria?
Honestly, I'm looking at some of the replies here, and imagine if Variety, THR and Deadline remained silent on Weinstein after WaPo, NYT and other "real" journalists published the story of his abuse, this is what some of your arguments sound like.
If you can do PR printing, you can report based on a BBC article.
Same here. I had only read about it on twitter, and it was from people who thought it was a conspiracy theory pushed by the right wing US against China. Liberal People who I usually agree with, so when I saw era talking about it, Liberal people who I also usually agree with, I didn't really know what to think.it's not just gaming. it's everyone.
i have yet to see anything about this in my local news. i only know about the issue due to this forum.
did the press stop reporting on delays after 2016 or somethingI Got Death Threats For Reporting On A Video Game Delay [UPDATES]
Last Wednesday, I reported that No Man’s Sky had been delayed. For two days, up until the game’s developers confirmed the news, I received a stream of nasty messages, angry tweets, and, as has become a standard part of gaming culture, threats against me and my family.kotaku.com
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Indeed. Non of the large media websites are going to go for it , as they are all gagging to be let in to the Chinese marker, if they aren't already their.
This is my thought as well, the same people who cover a Sony press release aren't likely going to be the same people reporting from a warzone or a prison camp. These are very serious issues and need to be covered but it's unfair to call people out as not being real journalists or the like for not covering stuff not in their wheelhouse. Should the companies they work for and the journalists themselves maybe take a stance and make it known yes but that doesn't mean they should stop coming the industry and issues they are suited to cover.Because they are video game journalists. I wouldn't expect sport journalists to cover this either and perhaps you are setting unreal expectations here.
Now, if you want to question why it is not being covered more by mainstream news organizations then that's a more legitimate conversation.
Any issue which occurs outside the US is declared a non-issue.