yes but it's not like they have a sixth sense
Spiderman is just psychic and no one knows how it works
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Why does Spider-Man canonically lack natural web shooters?
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Spiderman is just psychic and no one knows how it works
Yeah, it's another reason why Tobey is my fave live action Spider-Man. Sick of it just being some gadget. I really do prefer it coming from him.
Well, he couldn't use his web in the Raimi films for a while there as well.
Hank Pym hotwired a toaster to cure cancer when he was 6 years old
Remember instead of a spidersense they just made Spiderman 2099 be able to see faster
Man, that would sure make it tough going going to the restroom. But at least would have silk coming out his ass.
Raimi's movies leaned heavier on the melodrama and his powers shut down from stress, so it worked fine for that.
Hopefully the MCU version plays up the science stuff more.
I thought he just studied insects. And particle physics. And robotics.
On second thought, that has about as much connection to those studies as they do to each other.
Unless stated super scientists cover all areas. some are just better in some areas than others
That's taking it too far and would ruin the characterization they were aiming for.
He's a poverty superhero. Where is he supposed to get the materials for a Starktech level suit?
The genius of the web shooters isn't the actual device themselves. Hell you can buy one that shoots silly string for like ten bucks.
It's the high level chemistry he pulled off to make the actual fluid. I would say that this way also emphasizes his genius in that he is able to make up for this 'blind spot' in his power set with his own adaptability.
Right. Spider-Man putting together power armor is a very different endeavor than him using everyday household chemicals to make web fluid.
I remember watching the first Raimi Spider-Man when it came out at a drive-in theater. Upon seeing the organic webs and the tiny hairs growing out of his skin, I said "Nope. Don't know what the fuck that is, but that's not my Spider-Man."
I'm so glad mechanical webshooters have been more prevalent than organic over the years.
I'm so glad mechanical webshooters have been more prevalent than organic over the years.
My biggest gripe with TAS and homecoming. Catridges and mechanical supply which should come naturally for him. Riami movies was actually really good at making everything organic to the character. If you remember riami movies his character had viable improved power, improved senses, actual skin sticking to walls rather than suit.
The suit in riami film was only to make his real self hidden while in the marvel and TAS version it's a tool which technically would give any athletic person abilities . Basically the suit is like the ant man suit rather than natural spider abilities like riami
The suit in riami film was only to make his real self hidden while in the marvel and TAS version it's a tool which technically would give any athletic person abilities . Basically the suit is like the ant man suit rather than natural spider abilities like riami
The idea of a Superhero naturally shooting white body fluids out never sat well with me. Mechanical webs are a way better sell.
Yeah, puzzled by that whole post myself. The vanilla Marvel and TAS suit didn't do anything to give or amplify his powers, outside of the webshooters he built. The suit didn't cause him to stick to stuff and Raimi didn't create that; he's always been able to do that and can do it through the suit. The only thing Raimi did "sticking-wise" was give him the tiny barbed hairs growing out of his skin (which I hated), and Slayven would know better than I if that had been done already in the past before the movie. The suit didn't improve his senses, or inhance his powers, or anything. If a regular person put it on, they would have gotten nothing from it. They could have shot a web out, I guess, but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be able to effectively web-swing without Parker's strength and agility.
EDIT: I guess maybe the 'Marvel' suit the poster was referring to was the Homecoming suit, which would have probably done some stuff for a regular person who was wearing it. I hate the tech-heavy Starktech suit though anyway.
The Spider Mobile.
Then why they still got cancer?
When I first saw RaimiMan all I could think was what kind of pressure must that web fluid be at to shoot out of his wrist at that velocity? And how does his body create so much of it so quickly?
It's the same question about webshooters. Even in Homecoming the cartridges are absolutely tiny and the shooters themselves barely protrude from the wrists
Osborne has the cure for cancer but he only used it so he can try and kill Deadpool
(Deadpool cancer keeps him in check as otherwise his healing factor will kill him)
Wakanda has the cure too
Real question: If his webbing is nearly as strong as steal, why didn't he just patent the formula, sell it, and move himself and his Auntie to Bel Air?
He actually tried that once. The whole "evaporates after an hour" thing kind of put a damper on things.
Ha ha ha holy shit! There's a Marvel story for everything. Also, 30 years of reading off and on and had no idea about the 1 hour duration :(
I always wondered how they got people down from those spider nets he spins when preventing people from falling from atop of buildings.
This is exactly why I never understood the complaints about organic web shooters in Raimi's trilogy.
If I remember right, when Peter moved to Japan and became a non-asshole version of Tony Stark, he used some of the chemical designs for web fluid to build better/cheaper buildings? I could be remembering wrong.
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Yeah, radioactive spiders giving you sticky skin, super strength, and psychic ability is fine. Webs from your wrists is a STEP TOO FAR.
They're both equally ridiculous.
Remember how Ben Reilly made impact webbing and it was just the best?
Let's talk about the obvious parts: If it was organic he'd still run out of fluid, which he'd need to refill — by eating. Is he supposed to attach sandwiches to his utility belt?! I dont think so, it would be more likely that he brew together little capsules that contain the needed nutritients. So basically nothing would change, except that he wouldnt require hardware devices around his wrist.
So why not ditching hardware and relaying on natural abilities? He went through all this trouble of making the suit and mask so it covers his body and conceals his identity, just for people not getting any hints about who he is. If he used organic webs, he couldn't shoot those through the suit and would have to leave holes in it. This would reveal tiny patches of skin, people could narrow down his identity this way.
Still hardware can be damaged and may break. So why would spiderman risk to be left without working shooters? It is very likely that without the hardware peter's use of web power wouldn't be possible (as in useful) at all or by far less precise.
Even if spiderman was able to shoot organic spiderwebs naturally, the mecanical ones would be the better way to go.
So why not ditching hardware and relaying on natural abilities? He went through all this trouble of making the suit and mask so it covers his body and conceals his identity, just for people not getting any hints about who he is. If he used organic webs, he couldn't shoot those through the suit and would have to leave holes in it. This would reveal tiny patches of skin, people could narrow down his identity this way.
Still hardware can be damaged and may break. So why would spiderman risk to be left without working shooters? It is very likely that without the hardware peter's use of web power wouldn't be possible (as in useful) at all or by far less precise.
Even if spiderman was able to shoot organic spiderwebs naturally, the mecanical ones would be the better way to go.
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Wally West (The Flash) kept emergency snacks on him because of how fast his metabolism burned through his energy.
So the emergency sandwiches thing ain't even that out there.
But yeah nothing would really change.
So the emergency sandwiches thing ain't even that out there.
But yeah nothing would really change.
They saw more options to limit him for narrative purposes if they could easily limit his use of web and they wanted some batman gadgets and tech to prove he's smart.
Cameron got it right though: it should be organic in context to the character like his other abilities.
Cameron got it right though: it should be organic in context to the character like his other abilities.
The general Spidey suit seems pretty well prepared in that sense already.
Yes, basically. Besides, in the days of the comics code you'd probably want to avoid depicting adolescent boys shooting viscous substances from their bodily appendages.
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Yeah, if he's a genius inventor, wouldn't other things be a bit more practical to invent? Better to have a jet pack for traveling purposes.
However, inventing webbing using complex chemistry with easily accessible materials may be easier to believe than inventing a jet pack with every-day materials.