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Why do People Keep Thinking Halo Infinite is Gonna Be Delayed To 2022?
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Hope for the best, plan for the worst. It's just a good principle to apply to everything. It'd be cool if it released in 2021, but I'm mentally prepared for COVID and regular, old-fashioned development delays to happen.
Definitely. Though if there's any game that I could see them throwing that much money in trying to fix it'd be their #1 franchise.
It hasn't been and there aren't? Key aspects of the Glassdoor reviews were corroborated by official reporting and several key creative leads have left the project part-way through. There have been (and probably still are) issues with 343 - and it stems from management. A delay doesn't solve those particular problems, it just helps them deal with what they have for longer.
Covid and working from home was already a thing when the game was delayed and the new date was given. I assume it's a big reason for the length of the delay.
At that point you might as well just drop Xbox One support, that's why I don't see another delay happening. They have always planned post launch support regardless.
I am in the Infinite 2022 camp for several reasons, but the two biggest reasons are that I think Xbox realizes this may be Halo's last chance to remain or re-enter (depending on who you ask) the absolute top-tier of video game franchises and I think Covid has significantly slowed development. I think Xbox and 343 realize that this game both needs to feel fresh while still capturing the magic of the older games and to get there, it has to be absolutely perfect and that's going to take time.
I also think the game has more creative issues in the single-player than Xbox fans maybe want to admit. I think Staten coming in to oversee the development of the campaign implies there's more problems than just technical ones.
I also think the game has more creative issues in the single-player than Xbox fans maybe want to admit. I think Staten coming in to oversee the development of the campaign implies there's more problems than just technical ones.
Because they're running with rumors that the game is in development hell. If they don't flight the game like they've mentioned they plan to this year, there should be legitimate concern but given a full year of a delay and the sandbox being content complete for launch, I don't think there's anything to worry about.
Tim counter betting that Infinite may score below a 70 was some eye opening shit.
Do you understand the monumental disaster Infinite would need to be in order to score below a 70???? And don't get me started on Greg's nonsensical Halo opinions.. His first Halo 1 playthrough was on Legendary and he apparently refused to use the Pistol. How can you respect that? Then he goes on to trash it on various shows lol, even saying it's dated, that even Uncharted 1 aged better and was flabbergasted as to how anyone could think otherwise.
It's not missing 2021, this was Thursday.
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This is why I don't really get listening to these kinds of shows. Like, irrespective of whether you like Halo or not, this sounds ludicrous.
I don't think there's any particular rush to release it in 2021, at this point it's positioned to be a Gamepass mover, and Gamepass has already moved itself immensely. They may be better off delaying it until it's a top tier Halo product, legacy more than Gamepass subs. If it's top tier, it will move the subs and sales needle long term. If it's mediocre it hurts the brand.
I mean it is not unreasonable. The US is still struggling with the pandemic and most people in this type of industry are still WFH.
How about you tell us why people believe propaganda from the company themselves who have a vested interest in not being truthful?
It's content complete with the extra year just for polish and any adjustments Staten thinks is needed. I don't think it gets delayed any more. However, if somehow it's needed, I think 343 would be given that additional time.
If Staten is happy with Infinite, then I trust it'll be ready and really good. He's earned that.
If Staten is happy with Infinite, then I trust it'll be ready and really good. He's earned that.
Covid, a creative director loss + switch, a major engine / visual overhaul, and the fact that *developers do lie about the status of their game* (see: Cyberpunk 2077) make it more than a valid guess that the game will miss 2021. Throw in the fact that the last time people saw it they literally laughed it out of the room, you gotta wonder, does it maybe need some of that time just to be removed from public consciousness so it can kind of 'start fresh'?
Anyway, it's very possible that some part of it (MP) does launch in 2021. I know they had discussed that possibility, and maybe they return to it.
Anyway, it's very possible that some part of it (MP) does launch in 2021. I know they had discussed that possibility, and maybe they return to it.
What else he gonna say about the game though? Not like they gonna publish a blog with him saying its in rough shape. haha
Christ alive. God this hyberbole can GTFO. From this to anything an Era denizen doesn't like being 'shit' or 'trash' and on and on. I'm out.
I'm not part of the Halo community but I have been following this game's development. CDPR doing whatever they did doesn't mean other studios will. I also don't understand the comparison; CDPR decided to launch the game as it was, and people are speculating about 343 delaying more to polish it more. They already confirmed all the content is in the game, so it won't be rebooted. It was scheduled to be released last November, so it has been content-ready for a while. However, I can't imagine them showing it before the visual part is fully done.
I don't think he'd say anything about the game being in great shape currently. He'd side step it.
He's done enough for Halo that he's earned some trust.
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What vested interest? If Cyberpunk has shown anything, it's that misleading the public about the status of the game can cause harm in the long-run. I genuinely have a difficult time believing a game prepped for launch until 3 months beforehand is not content complete, especially as the last few months are often the polishing stage.
Propaganda is a really strong word, maybe don't use it in the context of a video game being possibly delayed
The comparison mostly (and only) stems from the fact that they are both AAA studios, and one of them -- arguably in the worst possible fashion -- made the claim they were 'content complete' when in fact they were so far from it they needed a year delay (or possibly more). According to some reports, things were changing at a breakneck speed during the final year, and the fact is, they have partly sunk their company with the mess of a game. So, I'm not trying to draw any undue comparisons here: the two companies are not at all similar, except that, they're both AAA studios, and studios do tell fibs about their games timeline.
Basically, there can be HUGE gap between 'we're close!' and 'we're done', and I think CDPR is the most egregious example in recent memory of that being destructively terrible. As far as anything else untoward that CDPR has done, or their reputation in general, I wouldn't draw any comparisons there. I'm not a member of the Halo community, though, except to say that I play the titles as they come, so the general claim that 'companies fib' -- well, mileage may vary there.
Fair enough. The only thing I'd say is that "content complete" doesn't mean it isn't buggy, just that it's playable from beginning to end. Did CDPR add content during the last year of development, or was it bug fixing? I'd be very surprised if 343 were adding content to ship with the game at launch, as I imagine it was already content complete by the time they showed it in August.
It'll drop on time IMO. Would not be surprised to see the xbox one version being 14 days later or having a harsh embargo to keep that version out of the spotlight.
If it was in rough shape they wouldn't say anything, and they wouldn't have given it a new release date.
That's how I've learned to treat anything a dev says over the years lol. I generally don't believe anything coming out of a developers mouth until I see it happen. Following the gaming industry for a long time has made me fairly cynical though lol.
Lol companies have a vested interest in their business, but that doesn't mean they necessarily have a vested interest in lying. The two concepts aren't mutually exclusive
Will the game look like this now?
Or was that just an UE4 based demo that never really represented the game in any real way? It sure looks like UE4 and nothing like the engine they've most recently shown.
Or was that just an UE4 based demo that never really represented the game in any real way? It sure looks like UE4 and nothing like the engine they've most recently shown.
I mean, the game is currently set for fall. Literally a month delay to fix up some bugs or polish some things could potentially put it in 2022. With covid and lots of insiders already saying tons of games are gonna get delayed. I don't really see how it's so outrageous to think Halo Infinite too could get delayed into 2022?
I heard some reports that content was in constant flux with Cyberpunk 2077, and after seeing the results first-hand it wouldn't at all surprise me if that's the case. 343 may not be "adding" content in the general sense of the word, but they will almost certainly be changing a lot of the content around -- when you change your underlying technology it's not infrequent to find that things that use to work don't work anymore. On top of that, if you have more time then you have more time, and that could be used to do anything from redesigning how an enemy works (and looks) to rebuilding an arena to revisiting your ending. I know that 343 is talented, so I wouldn't really question if they were capable of making large changes and additions given extra time and a new creative director.
I have just gotten to the point where trust for big companies is on short supply.
I can't imagine all that must have gone wrong with the game to go from launch title one day to maybe not even releasing in 2021 the next day after a simple unveiling of the gameplay.
I think people just think everything is gonna get delayed due to COVID (and just how the modern industry works), and they'll be right in most cases, but not Halo.
I mean, CP2077 was missing content AT LAUNCH - such as the complex policing/bounty system they talked up, the ability to buy property, etc.
In all seriousness though, if you look at how the game changed significantly even from the E3 2018 demo to release, I'm very willing to believe that game was still adding "content" in 2020.
But yes, "content complete" just means you're in the polishing and bug fixing phase, and based on the blog posts 343 have put out, it sounds like that's very much what they are doing now - along with some changes to the game's rendering pipeline, and some other visual changes that sound like they were already in progress but just not ready for the July demo.
In the most recent 343 update, the sandbox team mentions that their "launch" content is done, and they are just bug squashing and polishing now. In December, Joe Staten specifically talks about being able to play the campaign from beginning to end, and being impressed with it.
I'm sure a lot of work is left to be done (it got delayed for a reason), but I think the one year delay is simply because Microsoft wants to position the game in the big fall window, and because they want to give the team a buffer to ensure there's not another embarrassing (and expensive) delay. The marketing campaigns for these kinds of games are expensive, and Microsoft wasted a lot of money in tie-in marketing for the game this past fall.
Are there ANY games positioned for fall 2021 that actually have specific dates yet?
When there's multiple dev diaries saying launch content is complete and most of the focus now is on polishing the visuals and fine-tuning the game, it's kinda weird seeing folks pushing the 'development hell' angle.
...and now it's 'maybe not even releasing in 2021' based on speculations from random youtubers 😂