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Why do pc gamers lie about performance?
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What's your CPU and if is a Ryzen how fast is your RAM? GPU is not everything you should worry about if you want maximum performance.
Also, around half of the population doesn't even have one.
Also, around half of the population doesn't even have one.
It depends on the GPU. My old 1070 would OC really well, within 15% of a stock 1080. The newer GPU's tend to be more boost focused as they don't have a whole lotta headroom vs the standard boosts unless you put in really beefy cooling.
With the 30 series, the only one that apparently OC's really nicely is the 3060ti that can get you to 3070ish level.
Because it stopped being about playing games long ago.
It became a dick measuring contest to see who could get the best benchmark and boast about how much money and tweaking they've done to something to get to a mythical upper-end that will always be increasing.
It's like joining a race that no one will ever finish, but boasting when you're near the front of the pack.
It became a dick measuring contest to see who could get the best benchmark and boast about how much money and tweaking they've done to something to get to a mythical upper-end that will always be increasing.
It's like joining a race that no one will ever finish, but boasting when you're near the front of the pack.
OP drop his GPU and no other specs, I have a AMD Ryzen 3700x CPU, Samsung 980 500gb (main) NVME( i have another NVME 970 evo), 16gb Ram at 3600mz. with a 1060 GPU, that GPU is a bottleneck, can't find new cards so i am stuck with it until....
Modern GPUs dont even have problem of cooling, its more related to the gains being way too small to justify the OC (outside of the 5% range that some OEMs ship with). Case in point the current gen of cards barely can be OC even with super good cooling.
3060Ti OCs well because it is a faulty/binned 3070, so it can go up a bit more, but even then, not really worth it.
The 6900 seem to be handpicked 6800XT, so the 6800XT could get lucky and get a gold yield that gets close to a 6900 performance.
The beauty of PC gaming is that you can do whatever you want performance-wise. I've just bought Doom Eternal during the game awards sales and run it at low settings with the rez scaled down to 86% of 1080p on my 1060 because I use the RTSS scanline sync feature since I can't stand screen tearing and the input lag induced by traditional v-sync methods. I'm really happy with this setup.
Set your graphic options to achieve the experience you're looking for and forget about benchmarks.
Set your graphic options to achieve the experience you're looking for and forget about benchmarks.
I mean people lie about everything. It's just how people live. Always lying. Always making things up. Nothing is true. It's just how they do.
What resolution are you playing at? RTX/DLSS on?
3070 can crap the bed compared to a 3080 or even 2080ti when it runs out of VRAM (see the Watch Dogs benchmark in this video)
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3070 can crap the bed compared to a 3080 or even 2080ti when it runs out of VRAM (see the Watch Dogs benchmark in this video)
RTX 3070 vs RTX 3080 vs RTX 2080 Ti Ultrawide 1440p Benchmarks - Which GPU to buy for 3440 x 1440?
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Just having the same GPU does not mean you will have the same performance. Most benchmarks, even for lower end GPUs, are tested with the best CPUs to avoid CPU bottlenecks influencing the test.
if the performance of your GPU is not what you expected, I would imagine your CPU is slower than what was used in that benchmark. And of course there are other factors... software, settings, RAM / storage to a lesser extent, etc
if the performance of your GPU is not what you expected, I would imagine your CPU is slower than what was used in that benchmark. And of course there are other factors... software, settings, RAM / storage to a lesser extent, etc
If the OP is being genuine with their concern and their post is actually just a roundabout way of seeking assistance with their new set up, I hope they share more information about their system as there are people on this site that are willing to help - I've put questions out on here before and received assistance, so not everyone in PC gaming is an elitist as the OP seems to imply.
I built my first PC in nearly eight years over the course of the last six months. Hell, I had an i7 3770K paired with a 3080(before a Titan X Maxwell) as I saved and bought each piece over a couple months. Sitting on new Ryzen, nvme, some fun new additions - and you know what? It really depends on what's good for you. I was just as happy playing 4K/30/Ultra on a really old PC with a controller, as I am seeing what this new rig is capable of. Some of us are more tolerant of ever changing performance, but the tech market is always demanding. No need to inflate performance numbers, hell I'm capping games back down if RT is way too demanding. Tech is really fun right now, for all rigs.
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since people keep asking about my specs.
Rtx3070
X570 board
3700x
NVMe 4x4
32GB 3600 DDR4 - XMP enabled
Rtx3070
X570 board
3700x
NVMe 4x4
32GB 3600 DDR4 - XMP enabled
I don't think I've seen any rampant misinformation anywhere on this forum or anywhere else. Any benchmarks users post have usually been in line with their settings and hardware configurations.
I have a 3700x 16gb of ram at 3200Hz paired with a 3080FE and on cyberpunk 2077 with everything cranked up to ultra at 1440p with DLSS on quality my frame rates fluctuate between 38 -80 fps. Most of the time being in the high 50's low 60's. I find that my values tend to be in line with benchmarks give or take a around 3-5%. If there's something really off compared to comparable benchmarks then i troubleshoot. I dunno where you're getting this off by 50% value from. If it's that typically there is something in your build that's wrong. Also, publications are typically better with benchmarking but I find anecdotally user reports aren't as good not because they're trying to fluff the numbers but rather they test a really small section. Different areas may have wildly different numbers
Is all your drivers updated?
What res are you using?
Windows is updated with?
Did you check if the system have other apps running in the background or eating resources?
Which game are you testing?
Will take Tofer a million years to respond, so their post history says they are playing CP2077 on a 3440x1440 monitor.
Is this just a mad at Cyberpunk thread? I'm loading my sniper rifle.
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Close the thread if you want. Was just my observations after browsing performance threads not specifically on Era.
The only reason I'd consider closing the thread is because you've refused/ignored the constant requests for more information, such as examples of games where you feel you are underperforming.
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Thread was never about my pc underperforming. It was always about worse rigs outperforming benchmarks with superior hardware.
GPU by itself isn't going to guarantee a specific framerate rather a combination of GPU + CPU and RAM/Storage.
I think a lot of people just eye ball it so 44fps average or whatever ends up being reported as 60fps. But to be fair, smooth delivery of frames on a gsync/VRR display at around 50fps is usually pretty indistinguishable from 60. If you're using a gamepad then it's even easier to be fooled.
The other thing is that framerates can vary wildly depending on where you are in the game and what you're doing. The pros know to account for that but most people won't. So they treat performance like a bench press and give you the best case scenario.
The other thing is that framerates can vary wildly depending on where you are in the game and what you're doing. The pros know to account for that but most people won't. So they treat performance like a bench press and give you the best case scenario.
Well... you need to give us more info. What benchmarks are you taking about? Some YouTube videos are very dishonest, but other channels are great such as hardware unboxed.
This was a really silly thread to make without any actual examples to what you're talking about. Comments you read online about performance of a typical game almost always miss some sort of detail to explain that performance, like X GPU with Y CPU and Z RAM runs a locked 60 fps! But they don't tell you what resolution they're running at. Or any combo of those with a key component missing, and it goes vice versa as well. "X game runs terrible! Not optimized! Can't get 60 fps on a 3080!" Well, what are your settings and resolution? "Ultra, 4K, also I enabled DRS 4.0x because someone said it clears the jaggies up." Oh... well, that's an 8K resolution you're rocking there buddy.
There are some in games you expect to perform better on PC than they do, like Anthem or Cyberpunk.
But those sorts of games are the exception and not the rule. A 3070 will annihilate most games unless you're trying for 4K with RTX and limiting DLSS or something.
But those sorts of games are the exception and not the rule. A 3070 will annihilate most games unless you're trying for 4K with RTX and limiting DLSS or something.
Cyberpunk runs like shit on AMD cpus because of how they programmed the game. I read theres a fix you can apply to get way better performance.
It always bugged me when PC players shit on Console players, when often times their rigs are just as bad or worse than Last-Gen hardware. I get that PC's are capable of a lot, but you have to have the rig to match.. just blanketly stating, "Wow PC performs so much better than a base Xbox One, consoles are garbage", is so disingenuous on so many levels. Nobody is shaking in their boots about your GT 625 Todd.
I feel we are on to something here indeed. The more RGB you have the faster the FPSes. Also a gamer chair helps PC VROOM faster.
OP is as generic as shit. There can be so much variation in performance in a particular game even with similar hardware, its not funny. Hell, something as simple as not having updated motherboard bios, NVME/SSD firmware, a wrong driver version, a borked memory speed settings or many others can greatly affect performance.
Not to mention that there are so many things to tweak jn Cyberpunk, including CPU/GPU memory allocation.
Gotta eject every time I read "I didn't check the FPS or anything but it is running buttery smooth for me."
If you make a thread like this you need to explain precisely what you mean as your description is vague and left to interpretation.
Do you mean people lie sometimes or just do not notice performance issues? Either is valid but that's people in general and not solely a PC users issue.
Strange thread.
Do you mean people lie sometimes or just do not notice performance issues? Either is valid but that's people in general and not solely a PC users issue.
Strange thread.
Ah well, that would explain some.
I have to drop some settings on my 3080 to keep 60fps at 3440x1440
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