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Why aren't the Sony gaming franchises as iconic as Nintendo's?
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I'd argue that, in the UK at least, they are.
Now consider how the UK didn't take to the (S)NES the same as America did, since we didn't have an industry crash thanks to a healthy home computer scene, and you have your answer.
Now consider how the UK didn't take to the (S)NES the same as America did, since we didn't have an industry crash thanks to a healthy home computer scene, and you have your answer.
Yea, I'm not showing my kids games like The Last of Us, God of War, or some of the other more serious grounded tone games. So they aren't even going to be introduced to these characters until they are teenagers at the earliest.
Meanwhile, my 3 year old begs to watch 5 minutes of Mario games.
Also, Sony moves on from IP's for new ones. TLoU is a great game but we'll probably only see 2 entries.
Meanwhile, my 3 year old begs to watch 5 minutes of Mario games.
Also, Sony moves on from IP's for new ones. TLoU is a great game but we'll probably only see 2 entries.
Sony wasn't competing in the handheld market back then so that's not a fair comparison.
Because Sony only really improved the quality and quantity of their first party offerings with the PS3.
Realistically the only companies with icons are Nintendo and sega and a few others of that era.
Sony's dominance came later and really pushed the industry forward, but the icons that made it were already of a bygone era.
The foundations had already been set and it was Sonic, Mario, Pac-man etc that made them.
For this reason if you're not a company of that era making a classic 'mini' console, platform fighter like smash or any other product that trades on nostalgia is a losing battle at this point, basically 1995 or earlier if you're aiming at that idea.
Sony's dominance came later and really pushed the industry forward, but the icons that made it were already of a bygone era.
The foundations had already been set and it was Sonic, Mario, Pac-man etc that made them.
For this reason if you're not a company of that era making a classic 'mini' console, platform fighter like smash or any other product that trades on nostalgia is a losing battle at this point, basically 1995 or earlier if you're aiming at that idea.
The longevity argument doesn't make sense anymore. Sony is only two generations behind. That's not a lot.
Of their IP, only God of War and Gran Turismo have spanned multiple generations with the comparable budget and the same developers.
And it shows. Those IPs are amazing to this day. They invest in them. And they are rather recognizable as well.
Of their IP, only God of War and Gran Turismo have spanned multiple generations with the comparable budget and the same developers.
And it shows. Those IPs are amazing to this day. They invest in them. And they are rather recognizable as well.
But handhelds are Nintendos bread and butter, so only counting the home consoles, despite the fact that some of the most iconic games of those Nintendo franchises are on handhelds isn't fair either.
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Yep, and also due to how some of their PS1 era deals were made. They didn't get to keep some of their biggest franchises like Crash and Spyro.
While many others would be mortified of not getting new Sony IP's aimed at a more mature audience.
We're starting to see nostalgia for the PS1 era as plenty who grew up with the PS1 are approaching an age where they are getting nostalgic for the games on that system. But Sony doesn't seem to be capitalizing on that, but companies like Activision with Crash Bandicoot and Spyro are.
I would buy an Ape Escape HD Remake similar to what Crash Bandicoot and Spyro got in a heart beat, but I don't see Sony budging.
I would buy an Ape Escape HD Remake similar to what Crash Bandicoot and Spyro got in a heart beat, but I don't see Sony budging.
The only differences are nostalgia and Nintendo continuing to keep those characters around as opposed to shuddering them. That's really the only difference for better or for worse. Nintendo keeps franchises and characters from getting stale by revamping them in some revolutionary way or they create some mechanic that differentiates it from prior games in the series. I think Sony's approach is more iterative and an evolution over time and when that character or franchise has run its course, it's retired to the Sony vault...only to be re-released in a remaster or remake.
Not really trollish. It's true.
That's fine. Sony is a still gaming juggernaut. They have other strengths.
The other issue is that Sony hasn't really bothered establishing a "mascot". They has Crash but gave him up and haven't had one since.
For whatever reason they chose not to put any real focus on Ratchet and Clank.
For whatever reason they chose not to put any real focus on Ratchet and Clank.
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I know many adults that enjoy and play Nintendo games. The best time in the world is drinking a few beers and playing Smash with some friends
because they havent reused them for 30+ years? Nintendo's franchises are symbolic of the core of modern gaming since they started the modern industry. That's not something Sony's IP can attest to, regardless of how good they may be.
I know it's true but the framing of this discussion is definitely trollish. It's Touchdown man. I think it's funny but stoking the fires of console war using Mariah Carey gifs is bait.
Again, great. There are also adults that enjoy non Nintendo games and that's ok. What is the purpose here?
i think that their long running first party franchises just don't translate well to being mascots
if they wanted that they should have bought crash
if they wanted that they should have bought crash
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No huge purpose but when I think of Sony games in my head, nothing really stands out. But when somebody says Nintendo, you can't help but think of all of their different ip's.
You can do this with any game, this isn't something unique to Nintendo.
Ah yes!
Another thing, Sony just seems bad at IP management, by and large. They basically killed Ape Escape with all these insipid mini game collections. Nintendo tends to be very conservative. For example, there's usually only one Mario Kart game per generation.
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I think we know your purpose. You aren't interested in actual discussion.
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