Wait I'm confused, you blame non medical people for making doctors do blood tests on risky patients?
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"Why Are We Celebrating Lizzo's Body?"-Jillian Micheals
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Body positivity is a great thing, and as a musician I can say that yes, her weight will (and probably already is) negatively affecting her voice. Ultimately, it's all up to Lizzo what she does. No sense in calling someone out on something they are definitely already aware of.
That entire post is confusing. It seems like he thinks bodyweight and health are completely separate things.
"Why do i have to care? Why is it my job to care about her weight?"
- - a person very concerned about her weight
- - a person very concerned about her weight
Body positivity is always a good thing. No one should feel ashamed of their body.
However, if one has the means - as Lizzo clearly does now - one should strive to get in shape. But it's her body, so it's really no one else's business.
However, if one has the means - as Lizzo clearly does now - one should strive to get in shape. But it's her body, so it's really no one else's business.
The world needs big women in music. They have changed the course of music for decades...if not millennia
I would encourage you to encourage your wife not to let that bother her or to blame the doctors; medicine is all about risk. Not every at risk patient gets the same diseases, but they are statistically at a higher risk.
So you test, because early detection can be HUGE.
So then Jillian was right to say that Lizzo's body is not what she should be celebrated for?
1) Jillian didn't bring up the topic of Lizzo and her body.
2) Who wished an illness on her? Lol
Where is the talk show host saying Trump's body should be celebrated? Where are the masses yelling "toxic" everytime someone says he is fat or looks like he could have a heart attack at any minute?
Why? What additional worth does being in shape accord you?
How fat or thin a person is shouldn't even come up in conversation, it's typically not relevant.
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Black Americans are not the people responsible for the ubiquity of unhealthy, processed foods in the nation, nor are black Americans responsible for the systemic veneers of poverty which have left most black folks without the capability to purchase and eat healthier. Nor should black folks be singled out in the limitation of their cultural comfort foods (soul food, southern, etc) when America itself can be singularly identified by its attachment to comfort foods through the lens of hundreds of cultures.
Promoting general health within the black community (and all communities) is certainly ideal, but there are systemic and cultural drivers at play that make Black Americans' unilateral "solution" to this - and many other issues - an unreasonable expectation.
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She promotes being happy, confident and active as someone overweight. Some of the audience feel inspired and start to feel better about embracing it as who they are.
It's not like they don't know it's an issue so some could be running low at best with the stigma it has. Getting some "btw your life could end much sooner" talk doesn't help with that. If you can't feel good about yourself right now how are you supposed to care about your future self? Then you see someone like you saying "actually nah, fuck it" and enjoying being who they are and having a good time and putting a smile on their face. Which makes you feel better about yourself. Which gives you some confidence about yourself. You know, the thing that will help you go out more. Risk being seen more. Put yourself in a position where you want to do this for yourself because you love who you are more.
Saying this as someone who if they breathe in a little can easily pass as someone that typically goes to the gym despite rarely setting foot in one. You wouldn't tell a friend who was down about their weight that they should hit the gym because they'll die soon, you'd comfort them and tell them they're alright and it'll be ok. You motivate people by making them feel better, not reminding them of the bad parts about them that they'll always be more aware of than you could be.
It's not like they don't know it's an issue so some could be running low at best with the stigma it has. Getting some "btw your life could end much sooner" talk doesn't help with that. If you can't feel good about yourself right now how are you supposed to care about your future self? Then you see someone like you saying "actually nah, fuck it" and enjoying being who they are and having a good time and putting a smile on their face. Which makes you feel better about yourself. Which gives you some confidence about yourself. You know, the thing that will help you go out more. Risk being seen more. Put yourself in a position where you want to do this for yourself because you love who you are more.
Saying this as someone who if they breathe in a little can easily pass as someone that typically goes to the gym despite rarely setting foot in one. You wouldn't tell a friend who was down about their weight that they should hit the gym because they'll die soon, you'd comfort them and tell them they're alright and it'll be ok. You motivate people by making them feel better, not reminding them of the bad parts about them that they'll always be more aware of than you could be.
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I think he means for her personal health. It's none of our business though.
This is normal. It's good that your wife is doing these, irrespective of weight. You should be getting checked too.
You can treat your body however you want - again, it's no one else's business but your own. But speaking from a common sense standpoint, you should really make effort to get in and stay in shape. Lizzo isn't doing her heart any favors, especially when she hits her 50's +. I've had to personally witness what obesity does to family members, and it's very destructive, physically, financially, etc. And the U.S. healthcare system doesn't do any favors in that regard. This has nothing to do with physical appearance, if that's your assumption. No one is saying Lizzo or anyone else needs to look like a supermodel. I just think that you should really take care of your body, especially if you have the financial means to do so. And if you don't happen to be in ideal physical shape, then you should still feel good about yourself nonetheless.
Not once did I blame us for societal issues so miss me with that. We can control what we control but pretending we're all helpless doesn't help anybody. My folks were pretty damn broke but everybody from my grandma on down religiously made sure all of our meals had a few vegetables in them. To this day I will get lectured if I'm caught eating a meal of nothing but like starches and meat or whatever. It can be done.
Edit: I'll add that being fat isn't really the problem. I'm sure my grandma is "obese" but today's standards. But she's pushing well into her 80's with a pretty sound mind because of her diet, I'd like to believe.
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any time a fat person is in the public eye and not being constantly shit on about it, some idiots think they're being "celebrated" and personally increasing the worldwide obesity rate
She's probably not at an "ideal" weight, but if she's happy in her own skin, then let Lizzo do Lizzo her way.
I'm very glad your wife is healthy. She has very good genes and her body is resilient. Not everyone is in the same boat and I doubt the majority of people are in as healthy. The doctors are "checking some things" for a reason. All their teachings and training have taught them about factors that lead to health issues. They are simply following that training.
Are people watching the clip? It's the host who first brings up that people are "celebrating Lizzo's body". Jillian's response was to that ridiculous statement and she wasn't wrong in questioning it. The idea of "celebrating Lizzo's body" is idiotic.
But then she also went on to talk about Lizzo's weight, which puts her at fault as well. She should've left it at "it's none of our business".
But then she also went on to talk about Lizzo's weight, which puts her at fault as well. She should've left it at "it's none of our business".
Don't even try this, sweetie, it's not going to get you anything.
amazing. never fails to see people attempt to lift others while simultaneously putting others down.
You're either okay with body shaming or you aren't. I agree with the main idea of your post regarding "concerned" people, but I find it silly to get mad at someone and then do the exact same thing.
Imagine calling doctors morons for doing a health check on a new patient. How fucking dense do you have to be.
This is not the first time a woman has been objectified in public discourse.
1) 99% of the people making these comments don't actually care about the person's health more than likely, so... There's that.
2) Are we celebrating Lizzos body? Sounds like a strawman. Last I checked she quitting Twitter because of how toxic it is.
3) Some douche being a douche isn't going to get people to say that health is completely unrelated to body weight, because that's not true. But it doesn't mean that person supports the asshole insulting people in public.
2) Are we celebrating Lizzos body? Sounds like a strawman. Last I checked she quitting Twitter because of how toxic it is.
3) Some douche being a douche isn't going to get people to say that health is completely unrelated to body weight, because that's not true. But it doesn't mean that person supports the asshole insulting people in public.
Except that thin people aren't systemically, socially, politically, medically and economically oppressed by the fatphobic society we live in.
I like Lizzo's attitude she's clearly comfortable in her own skin.
But if someone were to say someone of her weight is "unhealthy", are they wrong in saying that? I don't perceive that to be fat shaming if people point out the unhealthy diet that can lead to obesity.
But if someone were to say someone of her weight is "unhealthy", are they wrong in saying that? I don't perceive that to be fat shaming if people point out the unhealthy diet that can lead to obesity.
Wasn't that after she harassed a DoorDash employee and got backlash for that? And then she got off Twitter? I guess that would count as her quitting due to toxicity...but it would be weird if the thread became about that instead.
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I can't stand Lizzo. I think she is being used as a passive aggressive dig at black women, a caricature that the dominant class pretends to find appealing, knowing full well how embarrassing many of us in the black community find her. And our embarrassment doesn't stem from her weight, our community embracing many beautiful and strong black women whose weight wasn't considered ideal: Aretha Franklin, Esther Rolle, Queen Latifah, Etta James..
So when people pull that bullshit argument to the effect of, "you don't like her because of her weight," give them a history lesson. We don't like her because she's a minstrel act and gladly parades her buffoonish ass before the public eye for whatever dollars white daddy throws her way. The idea of young black girls looking up to her makes me want to vomit.
So when people pull that bullshit argument to the effect of, "you don't like her because of her weight," give them a history lesson. We don't like her because she's a minstrel act and gladly parades her buffoonish ass before the public eye for whatever dollars white daddy throws her way. The idea of young black girls looking up to her makes me want to vomit.
There is a nuanced discussion to be had about having positive self image and confidence versus a societal acceptance of unhealthy individuals, but most of the time it's just body shaming. Honestly, unless somebody is clearly unhealthy and their body is being glorified it's probably best to just be glad for the person that they feel good about themselves - that's what is important. If people were saying "man Lizzo is very overweight and that's what people should aspire to look like!" (Or the same with grotesquely skinny people), THAT's when we can say hold up.
Sad thing is I used to have that mindset in similar discussions here. I've had close family members die to obesity related things but was taking my frustrations from that and attacking 'fat' in general. It's obvious when you step away from that and as linked above everything naturally supports it as a consequence. Just wasn't seeing the double standard until I compared it to how I'd comfort a friend with that issue.
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Straight up fact I was going to say the same thing
Gonna post this for saying Lizzo seems unhealthy
While I agree with the general statement of the message, I do call bullshit on their claim that they're not able to dance for a three or four minute song, despite allegedly being able to run three miles several times a week. :p
Not a fan of the current trend of normalizing obesity. Shaming isn't the solution, but I don't think blanket accepting is either. Lets be clear, I don't care about your body or how you treat it. If you're happy and living life to the fullest then more power to you. I can still have an opinion though. And I'm sorry, but being an average person and weighing over 250 lbs isn't some body type hand you've been dealt (remember, I'm talking about your average person, not the exceptions) that just happens to only affect Americans and not the rest of the world. The whole "that's just my body type" narrative is bs. Just be honest with yourself that this is the lifestyle you want to live.
Just off the top of my head some examples of this that you can't actually change by being mad at performers
- food insecurity
- workplace stress (funny how stress is an indicator for weight gain, which I guess body shaming is supposed to offset in some people's minds?)
- lack of access to regular health care due to cost
Right. So....what? I never argued anything to the contrary. It's fine to try body shame people if they're thin? I think Jillian Michaels was incredibly stupid in her comments. She definitely needs to mind her own business. That doesn't mean that I'm going to body shame her for body shaming someone else.
Appreciate that 'normalising obesity' isn't fat people existing and being visible, it's systemic injustices.
Being overweight or obese puts people at risk for certain health conditions in the aggregate but Lizzo is an individual woman and her health is her business and her doctor's.
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