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Who's the fittest Final Fantasy character?
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This is the correct answer. As is typically the case with FFVI.
You might not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like:
I do indeed like it.
Gosetsu from XIV also holds up a mansion. lol
Fitness isn't just brute strength anyway. It's overall physical ability compared to weight.
Speed and endurance are also important.
The winners here are pretty much going to be any monk in the series.
Divine power also isn't really fitness. It's magic. So Lightning in XIII-2 and LR isn't that strong from muscle training lol.
Fitness isn't just brute strength anyway. It's overall physical ability compared to weight.
Speed and endurance are also important.
The winners here are pretty much going to be any monk in the series.
Divine power also isn't really fitness. It's magic. So Lightning in XIII-2 and LR isn't that strong from muscle training lol.
It's Sabin but the cast of FFX can literally hold their breaths indefinitely and swim to the bottom of the ocean.
Everyone else needs subs and shit to do that.
Everyone else needs subs and shit to do that.
To be fair, Gosetsu was just holding part of the roof in that room specifically. That place was coming down with or without him, he just held that part long enough for you and the group not to die.
Not to say that wasn't a hell of a feat but still. Sabin was holding up the foundation, meaning all the weight of the place.
Naw. He was just bracing the doorway, acting as a pillar. Basically the same thing as Gosetsu.
Nowhere near lifting an entire house.
Anyone from Final Fantasy Tactics Advance really
They do so much walking on the spot their leg muscles must be insanely strong
They do so much walking on the spot their leg muscles must be insanely strong
This is the very same reason I always laugh whenever someone brings up the "Sabin supplexed a train" argument. Tifa would eat Sabin for breakfast.
you can't keep an entire mansion from collapsing by bracing a doorway.
Sabin can "hold" the mansion for 6 minutes. It's marked as #1 in the image below.
After that time period OR the second he lets go the entire structure collapses.
Anyone, anywhere that's still in the building when time runs out dies.
He's supporting the vast majority of the weight of that building, it's the only way to read that. And that building is big enough that you're talking thousands of tons of weight, even if you're "just" supporting the weight of the upper floors, roof, etc.
And that's "in the narrative." it's not a gameplay quirk. There's nobody in the mainstream FF lineup that's THAT physically powerful without being some kind of God. Sabin just works out a lot.
edit: and while we're talking screens:
The Ghost Train is ten cars long, plus the engine.
The interior of just one of those cars is several screens long. It's bigger than Diamond Weapon is, and Sabin doesn't need a limit break or any MP to suplex it.
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No. Unless every other pillar has already completely crumbled, and he's elevating the entire building off the ground, he's only holding a tiny fraction of the whole weight.
He's a support beam.
Think like this.
Remove one of those and the building will fall over.
However the vast majority of the weight is still on the ground.
Also, Gosetsu does the same thing, to a much larger building in a mainline title lol.
No. Unless every other pillar has already completely crumbled, and he's elevating the entire building off the ground, he's only holding a tiny fraction of the whole weight.
He's a support beam.
Think like this.
Remove one of those and the building will fall over.
However the vast majority of the weight is still on the ground.
There aren't multiple support structures present in FF6 to keep the mansion from collapsing. It's just Sabin. So it's more like someone DID remove all of those support structures, there's only one left, and the building is still standing.
Sabin is that structure. He moves and the entire building goes.
edit: also, the mansion isn't leaning, so this is another bad example. The narrative is clear in FFVI. Sabin is supporting the building with his strength. He moves, and it's destroyed. The building is large enough that it's an unspeakable amount of weight no matter how you slice it- and Sabin has no espers or magicite on him at the time. It's just physical power.
Right. He moves and it falls.
That doesn't mean he's lifting the entire weight.
The mansion also is very much effectively leaning on him.
He is not standing in the exact center of the structure, bearing the entire weight.
He's at the edge, in the doorway.
If he moves, the structure collapses where he is, and causes the nearby supports to take on more weight, and collapse, etc.
He's really only bearing the weight of maybe one room. Which is still gonna be a few tons, but he's not lifting thousands of tons lol.
Also noteworthy- one of the first fights you get into with Sabin, vs. Vargas.
Vargas was the OTHER student of Duncan, alongside Sabin and has a beef with him. Vargas tanks every attack that Terra, Locke, and Edgar have before blowing them all away with "Mortal Attack: Blizzard Fist."
MA:BF doesn't work on Sabin, though- he's too strong for it.
Vargas is completely immune to all physical assault (even other blitzes, weirdly enough) with the exception of Sabin's "pummel" which he didn't expect Sabin to know at his level, and that Duncan apparently never taught him.
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Sabin is meant to be way, WAY past the rest of the party in physical power, this is obvious. You even meet Duncan later, and Duncan claims to have pried apart the jaws of the earth itself "once or twice" to have survived during the world of ruin.
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Given how strong his students are, no reason to think this is hyperbole.
Vargas was the OTHER student of Duncan, alongside Sabin and has a beef with him. Vargas tanks every attack that Terra, Locke, and Edgar have before blowing them all away with "Mortal Attack: Blizzard Fist."
MA:BF doesn't work on Sabin, though- he's too strong for it.
Vargas is completely immune to all physical assault (even other blitzes, weirdly enough) with the exception of Sabin's "pummel" which he didn't expect Sabin to know at his level, and that Duncan apparently never taught him.
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As Locke, Terra, and Edgar head through Mt. Kolts, they meet Vargas who had apparently killed his father Duncan. But when Vargas gets ready to deliver his fi...
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Sabin is meant to be way, WAY past the rest of the party in physical power, this is obvious. You even meet Duncan later, and Duncan claims to have pried apart the jaws of the earth itself "once or twice" to have survived during the world of ruin.
Final Fantasy 6 - Episode 050 - Master Duncan.
This Episode:Items Found: None.Bosses: None.
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Given how strong his students are, no reason to think this is hyperbole.
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yet they're both just game mechanics and not something that was ever meant to be considered a canonical feat
either way its still probably Sabin
If you mean non playable then probably one of the harder bosses because they 1v4 you, basically being depicted as requiring a whole squad to fight them.
Lol, ok I vote Tifa.
Or Tidus for his lung capacity and ability to score goals from across the pitch in water from floating position.
My favorite part in that scene is how
his master gives him this long, heartfelt farewell speech while Gosetsu is holding up the castle with a bullet wound, waiting for him to escape.
Like, dude. Gosetsu gets that you appreciate him. When he says "go," he means go.
Like, dude. Gosetsu gets that you appreciate him. When he says "go," he means go.
This is it. Zell laps the planet in 7-8 seconds. It's over!
That's just a game mechanic same with suplexing a train. They're memes because they're silly.
Suplexing a train is a quirky and funny mechanical interaction.
Noctis canonically parries a living mountain.
I know Gladiolus looks buffer but Noctis is many times stronger than him going by the game's lore and I think he's probably the strongest Final Fantasy main party member if you only consider feats that are explicitly canon.
Noctis canonically parries a living mountain.
I know Gladiolus looks buffer but Noctis is many times stronger than him going by the game's lore and I think he's probably the strongest Final Fantasy main party member if you only consider feats that are explicitly canon.
Toss up between Sabin and Gladiolous. A lot of them are buff as fuck but strength isn't paraded as their differential (for instance, Barret looks like he can hit like a train, but it's slim boy Tidus who chooses to wield the sword on that game, so...).
As classic as Sabin is and as a newly big fan of VI myself, I think a fair few FF characters have matched or passed him in physical feats. Cloud casually jumps tens of meters into the air using just his legs with no materia in Advent Children, for example, while swinging a massive heavy metal sword around like it's a paperweight. You can't really apply any logic to these feats the characters pull off, so the only tenable comparison is body fitness as we know it in reality. And that goes to Godbert.
Actually that honor goes to Lightning whom by the end of the XIII games is a half-step removed from being a full-on god. But neither her or Noctis qualify for the fit contest since they both invoke magic to fight.Suplexing a train is a quirky and funny mechanical interaction.
Noctis canonically parries a living mountain.
I know Gladiolus looks buffer but Noctis is many times stronger than him going by the game's lore and I think he's probably the strongest Final Fantasy main party member if you only consider feats that are explicitly canon.
The first post implies magically imbued power counts, or Cloud and Sephiroth are out due to mako treatments. Also, Noctis is canonically stronger than the gods of his universe so I don't think Lightning edges him out, especially because as far as I know we don't actually see her perform any great feats of strength. Noctis regularly does and likely has the raw physical power to cleave mountains if he puts his back into it. He doesn't just stop Titan, he throws the dude off of him multiple times in a short time frame.As classic as Sabin is and as a newly big fan of VI myself, I think a fair few FF characters have matched or passed him in physical feats. Cloud casually jumps tens of meters into the air using just his legs with no materia in Advent Children, for example, while swinging a massive heavy metal sword around like it's a paperweight. You can't really apply any logic to these feats the characters pull off, so the only tenable comparison is body fitness as we know it in reality. And that goes to Godbert.
Actually that honor goes to Lightning whom by the end of the XIII games is a half-step removed from being a full-on god. But neither her or Noctis qualify for the fit contest since they both invoke magic to fight.
She performs the single most powerful canonical attack in FF history in the third game.
If you're referring to the friendship sword, that's not a feat of her power alone and it's also not a feat of strength. Tossing Titan around is done with Noctis' raw power, regardless of whether that comes from his bloodline or not.
I don't know about you guys, but my money's on Vivi. Skipping ain't easy and he can do 1000 jumps no problem, even at increasing speeds.
Zell doing a lap on a earth just to punch a mofo is up there
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It shows that you don't have to read Combat King magazines to make your moves.
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I'm so glad that I recently started playing FFXIV so that I could understand this post. And it's the correct answer.
Godbert wields the toon force. Literally reality warping superpowers. He's on a level comparable to the gods and cosmic beings of the Marvel universe. He is limited only by one thing - what's funny and what's not funny. It's not even fair to compare him to other FF characters, even Sabin.
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What about Kain? He jumps so high that even meteors and shit can't reach him. Now there's a dude who doesn't skip leg days.
The whole Hildibrand questline is one of the best in the game. So good.
I forgot about Snow. He's pretty swole too. I remember Serah swooning over his body and everything else "great" about him in XIII-2.Ooooooh this my thread. We're keeping this sfw right?
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Noctis fighting Titan isn't a pure physical feat. His strength is absolutely derived from bloodline magic in every aspect of combat. That's why he's no different from Lightning. And given his magic also uses his ancestors, I'm inclined to draw the similarity to Lightning forming a giant dimensional light sword from the collective souls of humanity to bring down God. XV even goes out of its way to explain that the bros get their power from Noctis's bloodline magic, enabling them to fight foes that normal humans could never hope to face off against.
Um...Ooooooh this my thread. We're keeping this sfw right?
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I'll take more of this please.
Sabin "fights" Duncan after they meet in the world of ruin and learns his "ultimate" technique. Sabin will also learn it on his own if he hits level 70 *without* Duncan.
There's nothing left for Duncan to teach him. Sabin surpasses him regardless.
Sabin is just as skilled, but several decades younger and in better health.