geralt takes the time to talk to enough townspeople to discover achilles's weakness so he can score a OHKO. achilles slams that skip cutscene button. engaging with the dialogue system is geralt's greatest strength, he wins
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Who wins in a fight: Brad Pitt's Achilles or Henry Cavill's Geralt?
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Cavills Geralt barely used signs and they didn't even do tons of damage. This isn't book/game geralt just like it isn't Iliad Achilles
movie achilles was mowing down people super fast.Netflix witcher got his ass kicked a few times
movie achilles was mowing down people super fast.Netflix witcher got his ass kicked a few times
Speaking of the Iliad and the Aethiopis, Memnon isn't mentioned enough in these kinds of discussions. The Ethiopian king and ally of Troy was almost an equal to Achilles, but even he was defeated in the end by the demi-god.
Nah even in the Iliad the dude was directly protected by the gods in his fights multiple times which is where the idea that he was invulnerable came from. Paris also got a fair bit of help as did Hector. The whole war of Troy was a Greek god proxy war.
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That's the thing, it's not that you're just fighting the man if you're facing off against a hero from the Iliad. Even Paris would probably take down Geralt, because Geralt wouldn't be fighting Paris but rather Paris and Apollo together.
Achilles and it wouldn't be close.
No one knew Achilles heel even was a weakness until after he was killed.
No one knew Achilles heel even was a weakness until after he was killed.
Apollo knew, which is why he guided the arrow directly to it. Apollo is basically the one who killed Achilles, using Paris as a tool to do so.
Achilles is the most violent man alive, and once he stops sulking on that beach - at least in the Iliad - he kills EVERYONE. Asteropaios is the only Trojan to even land a hit on him (by throwing two spears at once), and even when he's at risk of being overcome by the river god Scamander, the gods intervene on his behalf.
This is basically Superman versus, I don't know, Deathstroke. Except nobody knows about Superman's weakness to Kryptonite.
This is basically Superman versus, I don't know, Deathstroke. Except nobody knows about Superman's weakness to Kryptonite.
Plenty of people in that war were protected by gods. That does not mean Achilles was invulnerable and had a heel weakness of some kind. He is injured multiple times in The Iliad.
Sorry, but this is incorrect.
Going purely by the fighting in the gifs.
Achilles is a dancer who slays with grace whereas Geralt looks like he's just moving through rehearsed blocked out steps. Phantom Menace level acting there.
Achilles would tire him down
Achilles is a dancer who slays with grace whereas Geralt looks like he's just moving through rehearsed blocked out steps. Phantom Menace level acting there.
Achilles would tire him down
In actual mythology, I'd give this to Achilles easy because he's a demigod and you had to know of his weakness to have any chance.
Troy version would get stomped out by Geralt as he's shown the the Netflix series, and really stomped out if it was game Geralt.
Troy version would get stomped out by Geralt as he's shown the the Netflix series, and really stomped out if it was game Geralt.
Going solely by the Iliad, Achilles doesn't even die. It's in latter writings that his death is confirmed and even then, there are different versions of the heel legend. Also, post-Iliad Achilles' feats are equally impressive, defeating Penthesilea and Memnon. He was a killing machine.
It was more in a response to the "Geralt would just ask the townspeople what Achilles's weakness was!"
Eh? I feel like it wasn't that preposterous considering the armor and shield based tactics of the era, you would want to find a vulnerable angle that the average soldier isn't prepared to counter, and raising a 30-50 pound shield above your head to protect your neck is going to leave you wide open for a follow up attack. Less preposterous than your little spear idea here considering the average greek spear was 8-10 feet long, good luck raising that thing and attacking accurately against a single opponent who's countering your movements in a full sprint.
If I remember correctly Brad Pitt's Achilles heel wasn't exactly his weakness, but a lucky shot made by Paris. Several more arrows were fired at him which what I always assumed killed him (even after he ripped them out). So the legend was made of Achilles and his heel being his weakness.
Geralt wins because magic
Geralt wins because magic
How is a nearly invincible demigod comparable to a 'regular dude'?
Hell, the wooden horse and the sack of Troy aren't even in the Iliad. The Iliad ends with Hector's funeral.
All the other stuff comes from the Aenid and other non-Homeric material (except the horse gets a shout-out in the Odyssey).
Illiad Achilles was a hella good warrior, invulnerable to all harm except for his heel (and really that entire foot, if you are going to be semi-logical). This isn't a matchup book geralt can win fighting mano a mano; Achilles could just outlast him.
Book Geralt is a metahuman, with access to boosters, magic, and is a damn good warrior. If he leverages his full skillset, he can take it.
Peak Achilles is the version in Dan Simmons Ilium/Olympos duology. There, he's a superhuman warrior whose mother (using bullshit tech so advanced it's magic) made him invulnerable to everything except arrows fired Paris' bow. How this was done? His mother set the quantum probability of his death (to anything but Paris and his bow) to zero. There's a scene where he is shot by a gauss weapon at point blank range and the fucking universe itself rewrote its laws of physics and made the bullet curve to miss him. Fuck knows what the universe would do if you were to drop him into certain death situations, like tossing him into Jupiter.
Book Geralt is a metahuman, with access to boosters, magic, and is a damn good warrior. If he leverages his full skillset, he can take it.
Peak Achilles is the version in Dan Simmons Ilium/Olympos duology. There, he's a superhuman warrior whose mother (using bullshit tech so advanced it's magic) made him invulnerable to everything except arrows fired Paris' bow. How this was done? His mother set the quantum probability of his death (to anything but Paris and his bow) to zero. There's a scene where he is shot by a gauss weapon at point blank range and the fucking universe itself rewrote its laws of physics and made the bullet curve to miss him. Fuck knows what the universe would do if you were to drop him into certain death situations, like tossing him into Jupiter.
LOL. I think I'd rank movie Achilles a little above average.