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Who will set the new graphical benchmark after TLOU2 this year?
- Thread starter Omnistalgic
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This game is incredible. The only thing that can beat this simulation in VR is an actual full flight simulator from CAE or TRU.
Of games currently confirmed to come out this year? Halo or Flight Sim. Cyberpunk will surely have great art direction, but technology wise will be held back by being a current gen game.
Of course we also don't know the actual list of games coming out in 2020 yet, because neither platform has a confirmed launch lineup.
Of course we also don't know the actual list of games coming out in 2020 yet, because neither platform has a confirmed launch lineup.
New Spidey simply because it'll be running on a vastly more superior hardware even though it's not made bottom up for it. TLOU 2 will still have better asset quality, at least in some instances, but I think Spidey will be a better package overall as it should be running on PS5.
Damn, just switched back to RDR2 after hours of TLoU2. TLoU2 gameplay looks like a really pretty current gen game. RDR2 gameplay on PC (near max settings at 4k) looks like a next gen game by comparison ( putting aside the shittier hair). It's remarkably breathtaking at times. I wish everybody could play it on a high-end PC so that they can see what all the fuss is about.
yeah. there are things that TLoU2 does better (hair and more boutique animations), but the scope and detail in RDR2, especially on PC, is unmatched
When it comes to emoting faces, TLoU2 is the best game I've seen to date, the eyes are incredible. I'm unsure if CP2077 could top it. ND simply put so much care into it. It runs at 30fps understandably, things are very blurry when moving the camera despite turning MB off. But it's crazy impressive, the dense vegetation, draw distance, SSR, blood, animations, skin, HDR, attention to detail.. the list goes on, from a technical stand pint it's one of the most impressive games I've ever played considering the hardware it's running on.
I don't find it that way, maybe it's because I'm only playing on 2080. You don't see a lot of lod transition and low res texture in rdr2 but overall I still don't know how ND achieved such visual on a standard ps4 in native 1080p.
I'm very far into the story to the point where I think I'm almost done. I'm about 22 hours in. I didn't think it was possible, but this is the best looking game of the generation to me. Whatever type of lighting and shaders Naughty Dog is using is out of this world. They're many moments that look like something out of next-gen.
Just wanted to get that out there.
Just wanted to get that out there.
I agree, TLoU2 is it gorgeous game and I think it's the best-looking console game to date. Like I said in my previous post, it's really hard to make the comparison because the image quality is really bad when compared to the high end PC scene. I think a major part of the reason why RDR2 looks next-gen by comparison is because of the native 4K plus higher frame rates, and higher-quality visual effects in general. RDR2 is an amazingly gorgeous game, but TLoU2 is probably going to look a lot better then it when they release the PS5 version, probably by a lot.
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I would say this is a step above TLOU2 is scope, but you are cheating, this is clearly PC footage?? No...I don't have the best shots to do it justice but....
random ass animal in open world has no business looking this good
volumetric lighting <3
how the light shines through the volumetric clouds is one of the most impressive aspects of this game. shadows and light change drastically as the clouds move.
game might not have the best voliage, but it renders grass/flowers are far as the eye can see. which is usually one of the first areas open world games skimp on. Assassin's Creed Odyssey stops rendering grass about 20 meters from the camera, for example.
fur porn
gun model porn
more shots:
Don't have any from the snow areas.
Obligatory volumetric clouds video
Well, you didn't start the thread with the no PC games rule, and most of us who are talking about PC games probably haven't read the OP since before you added the edit. I only saw it now.
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No physics the only thing you are collding with is the air.....constantly. Havok in TLOU2 is much more advanced.
Now that I am playing it, I don't think we will get a better looking game in this generation or even the early next gen.
"Maxed out" comments always make me chuckle. It's way more about developer quality, artists, budget, animators than medium vs ultra setting.
I've seen Red Dead 2 on Xbox on a friends HDR OLED and it looked unbelievable. I also saw it "maxed out" on a friends PC, and it looked so much less impressive just because of the monitor.
That said Red Dead, (maxed out or medium settings) is still one of the best looking games at the moment overall and will probably compete well with the first crop of next gen games.
Sony haven't shown anything universally face-meltingly amazing yet, except Horizon. My outside bet is maybe Hellblade, but I think Horizon is the one to beat.
I've seen Red Dead 2 on Xbox on a friends HDR OLED and it looked unbelievable. I also saw it "maxed out" on a friends PC, and it looked so much less impressive just because of the monitor.
That said Red Dead, (maxed out or medium settings) is still one of the best looking games at the moment overall and will probably compete well with the first crop of next gen games.
Sony haven't shown anything universally face-meltingly amazing yet, except Horizon. My outside bet is maybe Hellblade, but I think Horizon is the one to beat.
My 3700x + 1080 Ti can't even hit 60 fps with the lowest preset at my native 3440x1440 res. I do have it nearly maxed out though but probably averaging 30 - 40 fps. One thing I think RDR 2 has a significant advantage in is draw distance and hiding of LOD transitions.
As for TLOU2, I just got out of the snowy beginning and I really think what I'm seeing looks better overall than RDR 2 on my PC. Yes you can find some low res textures if you look, or spot LOD pop-in, but the asset quality, lighting and just the whole package looks really amazing.
RDR2 max settings on PC is already more impressive, but the whole art-style is already more impressive anyway
I don't think that many games can beat the last of us 2 when it comes to facial animation and hand/finger animation in the next 3 years. Their fucking nostrils move when they talk, expanding when worked up and so on.
To be honest, I wasn't even expecting the game to look this good. I thought this generation had peaked with so many games and that the easier hardware had made it possible for more devs to be the next naughty dog but nope, not even close, there are so many moments and scenes where I exclaim"Holy shit this looks great". Yesterday I just stared at a muddy wall for a minute. And whenever you feel like you got used to the visuals, the next striking scene happens.
I truly thought the look into next gen and my scrutiny of those games had ruined this generation for me, but this game doesn't have to hide at all.
To be honest, I wasn't even expecting the game to look this good. I thought this generation had peaked with so many games and that the easier hardware had made it possible for more devs to be the next naughty dog but nope, not even close, there are so many moments and scenes where I exclaim"Holy shit this looks great". Yesterday I just stared at a muddy wall for a minute. And whenever you feel like you got used to the visuals, the next striking scene happens.
I truly thought the look into next gen and my scrutiny of those games had ruined this generation for me, but this game doesn't have to hide at all.
Flight Simulator comes out this year.
TLOU2 isnt even the best looking game this generation why do people think it wont be beaten this year with Nextgen machines dropping.
I have played every big AAA game this gen, and I've seen countless hours of high-quality RTX footage of multiplatform games. Nothing comes close to the graphics in TLOU II, not even RDR2. This game is completely insane. The amount of detail, the lighting... and it just doesn't stop. Every new area I see has completely new assets with unbelievable detail. It's absolutely mindblowing.
To be honest, I think it will take a while until a better looking game will be released. Next-gen launch games might push more pixels, have higher framerates... but I think we are at a point where better hardware doesn't automatically result in better-looking games. It's all about art and craftmanship now. From what I've seen, Horizon: Forbidden West looks very promising. And I can't wait until we see the next Naughty Dog game.
Thinking what?
To be honest, I think it will take a while until a better looking game will be released. Next-gen launch games might push more pixels, have higher framerates... but I think we are at a point where better hardware doesn't automatically result in better-looking games. It's all about art and craftmanship now. From what I've seen, Horizon: Forbidden West looks very promising. And I can't wait until we see the next Naughty Dog game.
Thinking what?
Ok, thanks for the share, I watched it. But it doesn't show how it is more complex than a car simulation. I'm not impressed at all since in a car simulation, there are, at least, as many things to integrate as in a flight sim. In a driving simulation, you have to deal with the wind, the body of your car, mass transfer, centrifugal force, aerodynamism, textures's roads, rain, snow, tires heat, tires deformations, the behavior of the other cars (collisions), AI , aspiration, car's weight with/ without fuel, etc.
You have to at some point accept that not everyone talks about "graphics" in the literal sense of a word.
The Last of Us Part 2 certainly looks the best in comparison to everything I've played this gen, and I think that's down to their smart use of tech with unparalleled artistry.
I think earlier you said that there isn't a single location in Part 2 that looks better than Control. This is an absurd statement given my time with the two games, but you probably have a reason for a such a comparison.
That said, I doubt even Remedy would agree with you on this one.
Collisions arent all that taxing once optimized especially if it isnt like a million particles or something, most collisions are actually handled by proxies so even a hyper detailed car or whatever will still have a very boxy looking physics proxy over it to actually do the physics.
Fluid simulations are some of the most expensive simulations to do so if the game is doing that whether its a racing game or flight simulator its a computation task much higher than the physics presented in TLOU2....which si the game whose physics you are praising while belittling the physics of Flight Simulator.
This string of conversations started because you said Flight Simulator 2020 had and I quote "No Physics" when compared to TLOU2(The topic of this thread) weve shwn you that it probably has the most taxing physics of any game coming out this year and now youve moved the goalposts again and are saying it doesnt seem more complex than a car simulation......but that isnt the point we are trying to make.
The No Physics argument falls flat because FS2020 has insane physics while still looking absolutely stunning.
Graphical benchmark of what?
For large scale open world that benchmark most likely ends up being CP77 until HZD 2 drops.
For TLOU 2 style linear games with small explorable areas? Unlikely before some future unannounced title that goes for same authentic art style.
You can't compare e.g. CP77 and TLOU 2 head to head just because as games they do very different things. TLOU 2 uses a lot HW budget on pure graphics.
For large scale open world that benchmark most likely ends up being CP77 until HZD 2 drops.
For TLOU 2 style linear games with small explorable areas? Unlikely before some future unannounced title that goes for same authentic art style.
You can't compare e.g. CP77 and TLOU 2 head to head just because as games they do very different things. TLOU 2 uses a lot HW budget on pure graphics.
I owe you the fact that the game as indeed physics. It Doesn't change the fact that part of the calculation is deported on Cloud>>> extra help. Graphics are impressive, if not the best, because of that and for all the rest I listed, No AI, No enemies, NO LOD0 for fauna and flore. That's my point. That is why I struggle to be really impressed, since it is "cheating".
Hahaha.
As long as we are on the same page its all good.
"Cheating" in game design is called being clever.
ND didnt write a brand new Physics engine, they got Havok to do what they needed it to do.....Cheating? Maybe. Genius? Yes.
Any game that doesn't have people characters and facial animations automatically can't be in the top 5. Characters models and their animations are many times harder to do realistically than some plane model and a bunch of buttons in the cockpit.It is Microsoft Flight Simulator
It is Microsoft Flight Simulator
Have you actually looked at the ground of the 2nd photo? Most of it is a flat texture with some low detail houses on top of it.
"Cheating" in the context of a thread/contest for best graphics, I think it was clear not mention that as it is so obvious. I was wrong apparently.
Nothing is free, but it's relatively light weight physics engine. Been around forever, first real showcase of its capabilities back in the day was Half-Life 2.
Edit: Free as 0USD? No, you license it.