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Who will announce price first, Sony or Microsoft?
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People say since Sony are the leader they would be going first but looking at Sony console history of pricing announcements for PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4...they haven't actually gone first for any of them.
Or maybe MS is hoping Sony goes high so they can go high as well and reduce/minimize loss on each unit sold.
Because at multiple times Team Xbox has said that they don't want a repeat of E3 2013, and that they are going to be more agile (IE willing to take a bigger upfront loss) this time around
What threw a wrench in all of this was twofold:
1) Xbox couldn't keep Series S a secret
2) Sony was able to keep PS5D a secret
It's going to be Microsoft. They need to announce Lockhart sooner than later and that means announcing price. Sony doesn't have the same pressure because they don't need to justify the Digital Edition's existence via price (which is why they already revealed it). They can wait longer.
By this logic Sony are also scared of Microsoft.
I'm going to go with Sony blinking first. Sony have shown in the past that they are super reactive to Microsofts decisions with the 'this is how you share games on ps4' video that was shown at the launch of this gen. Microsoft won't want to be humaliated like that again.
I feel like Sony's just waiting for Insomniac to give them the OK on Miles Gold Status before pulling the trigger. That's pretty much their golden ticket for this fall.
Definitely feels like they have more of a plan with the way they keep drip feeding stuff so Ill vote for them.
Definitely feels like they have more of a plan with the way they keep drip feeding stuff so Ill vote for them.
I think they should live stream both Phil Spencer and mark derby or some other Sony guy
they should both walk out and a mediator does a count down ...
"On the count of 3 shout your price"
"3.... 2.....1...."
phil:"$399!!"
Mark:"$499!!"
mediator: "ok let's lock those prices in!"
(I guess the mediator is Kyle bowman...)
they should both walk out and a mediator does a count down ...
"On the count of 3 shout your price"
"3.... 2.....1...."
phil:"$399!!"
Mark:"$499!!"
mediator: "ok let's lock those prices in!"
(I guess the mediator is Kyle bowman...)
Since Microsoft said they won't be beaten on price, they could go first, and if PS5 Standard is cheaper, Microsoft could then announce an even lower price to undercut Sony.
I think it's weak, there is not a lot of confidence coming out of that. This counts for both systems, though.
🙄 I don't think it's, necessarily, a game of chicken at all. I think Sony is taking their time to work out logistics with retailers on how to launch a system during a pandemic; official retailers might hand out PS5 masks n so forth if they're counting on big groups at brick n mortar locations, social distancing solutions, etc. And how Amazon would handle the influx with this launch when they already had problems with bigger games prior this year. This all has to be figured out before the price drops and you decide where to shop.
If MS made the decision to undercut Sony they could do so now by going $399 (if even possible for SX) but it's probably more of not wanting to get undercut rather than do the cutting.
I say MS is going first.
If MS made the decision to undercut Sony they could do so now by going $399 (if even possible for SX) but it's probably more of not wanting to get undercut rather than do the cutting.
I say MS is going first.
I see it more like they both respect their competition, they both messed up really bad the last time they didn't take the opposing team seriously and are giving their best shot at it this time around, no holding back.
There is a case to be made that for the first half of a generation most house holds will only have one of the two platforms. I would guess ~80 million or so homes are single platform for majority. That is a lot of money on the table from platforms fees, 30% digital distribution fees, monthly subscription, and PVOD charges.
Sony has publicly stated that each launch console is worth ~$1600 in revenue, and $700 overall average for every console sold.
On the Microsoft side of things, as much as they say they don't care about where you get your gamepass, that's complete bull, they care alot.
A PC gamepass sub is worth a lot less than a Series gamepass sub since the PC sub will most likely still be using another storefront for a large portion of their 3rd party purchases.
Microsoft no longer plans to release a new console in the region of $500 in November?? The upcoming console that isn't the premium option hasn't been announced yet and MS is running out of time to do so and position it for launch. Sony on the other hand has been more transparent in putting both SKUs on the table at once, and letting consumers know what they'll be getting in advance. This in mind, what makes you think that MS is in no rush, but Sony is? Would the reverse of that situation not also be viable?
Is Sony really threatened by the Series X ?
All polls show that people really prefer the PS5.
But tbh that communication, and COVID has nothing to do with this (not speaking of games/delays) it was arrogant, stupidly trying to overhype for months...The thing is releasing in November, we still do not have important information like the launch line-up and the price...it's a joke.
Look at Nvidia Ampere reveal, the bloke is in his kitchen, he did one HELL of a presentation, clear, simple...price revealed (and it's a nice price !).
I remember simpler times when those companies did not think they were king of the internet and acted a little more humbly.
All polls show that people really prefer the PS5.
But tbh that communication, and COVID has nothing to do with this (not speaking of games/delays) it was arrogant, stupidly trying to overhype for months...The thing is releasing in November, we still do not have important information like the launch line-up and the price...it's a joke.
Look at Nvidia Ampere reveal, the bloke is in his kitchen, he did one HELL of a presentation, clear, simple...price revealed (and it's a nice price !).
I remember simpler times when those companies did not think they were king of the internet and acted a little more humbly.
There is one thing I do think about. Playstation is Sony's Golden goose. It is now their largest part of their business. It earns them the most money and it is their biggest cash cow. They need the PS5 to launch with a serious bang!
Microsoft on the other hand, they make more in one quarter from their cloud than the Xbox division could dream of. Microsoft has also moved to a more service based company, and they sell games on steam (extremely well, consistently top ten for multiple games) as well as building their cloud services and game pass subscriptions.
I feel MS are in a stronger position to delay the release of the Series S...If they feel they have to, and focus on services.
Sony need to sell boxes this year, and a lot of them. They are the company that have stated that they want double the PS4 sales in the first 6 months and to increase purchases of the box over 2013. I don't know how they do this, if they don't open pre orders soon.
I think Sony have to go first.
Microsoft on the other hand, they make more in one quarter from their cloud than the Xbox division could dream of. Microsoft has also moved to a more service based company, and they sell games on steam (extremely well, consistently top ten for multiple games) as well as building their cloud services and game pass subscriptions.
I feel MS are in a stronger position to delay the release of the Series S...If they feel they have to, and focus on services.
Sony need to sell boxes this year, and a lot of them. They are the company that have stated that they want double the PS4 sales in the first 6 months and to increase purchases of the box over 2013. I don't know how they do this, if they don't open pre orders soon.
I think Sony have to go first.
They won't give the prices. You'll just buy the damn thing at some price. Maybe online, maybe from the store. There are no prices on display. The staff won't tell you. So you go to the checkout and pay. Still no price. Afterwards you try to check from your bank account and the amount is just blurry or pixelated or missing. But money has been taken from you.
It'll be years from now scientists find out the prices. And it'll always have been 599 for both.
It'll be years from now scientists find out the prices. And it'll always have been 599 for both.
Neither, you'll walk into the store on launch day and have to play a Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland style guessing game over the price. Offer too much and you'll never know but you get the console, offer too little and the clerk will take your money, mock you and throw you out of the store.
I don't think the S gets announced until after the X so I think Sony goes first and MS goes second. But whatever, if Sony are cheaper, I would bet good money that MS will just match them.
If Miles Morales is a launch game, I would say Sony, because they have yet to show much on that game, and they could take that opportunity to talk about HW again.
If Series S comes out this holiday, I would say Microsoft, because they have another console coming out this holiday and they have yet to talk about it.
If both scenarios are true, who knows xD
If Series S comes out this holiday, I would say Microsoft, because they have another console coming out this holiday and they have yet to talk about it.
If both scenarios are true, who knows xD
No one. Prices will never be announced even well into next-gen. Whoever buys one of them needs to sign an NDA regarding the price and accept it no matter what
The only thing that requires pricing > a week before release are pre-orders. And yet even a pre-order price can be subject to change (payment isn't taken until the goods are dispatched).
My guess is that Sony will announce an estimated pre-order price early, but maybe revise the price after MS announces the XSS.
My guess is that Sony will announce an estimated pre-order price early, but maybe revise the price after MS announces the XSS.
Agree.
Not being out of position on price or power can mean a few things. I think ppl need to stop thinking it means Series X under cutting PS5 and be open to other interpretations.
That's a good point about the ad campaign with no price. That does show some confidence tho...arrogance or?
No longer arrogant, violent.
I feel both are pulling hairs out over this.
Agree. The worst and best kept secrets.
Yup, I keep saying so much has changed for both since last year.
Omg, lol. This has to be one of the wildest scenarios I've seen posted.
I doubt XSX will undercut PS5. That's the whole point of Series S.
They just don't want to have a more expensive console, and I think both will be $599.
I think one these companies will do it first, its just a matter of which one goes first tbh.
I'm thinking Microsoft first cuz Sony has never announced their price first. but honestly I'm tired of waiting. just someone please announce a release date and price goddamn!
I think sony had planned to go last.
They were never meant to be at E3, and surely believed that MS would announce a price at E3.
I'm not sure if there is a game of chicken, it just is some marketing strategy to go last, having the last word.
Now i think sony will go first, they changed the marketing in germany from "That is new on PS5" to "PS5 - coming soon".
They were never meant to be at E3, and surely believed that MS would announce a price at E3.
I'm not sure if there is a game of chicken, it just is some marketing strategy to go last, having the last word.
Now i think sony will go first, they changed the marketing in germany from "That is new on PS5" to "PS5 - coming soon".
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