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Who was better : Buster Keaton or Charlie Chaplin?
- Thread starter Baphomet
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Keaton by far.
I watched Sherlock Jr., Cameraman, The General and Steamboat Bill Jr. recently and some of those stunts are still amazing.
If you haven't seen Sherlock Jr. yet, give it a watch now. It's only 45 minutes, and that short running time is absolutely packed with creative stunts and trickery.
I watched Sherlock Jr., Cameraman, The General and Steamboat Bill Jr. recently and some of those stunts are still amazing.
If you haven't seen Sherlock Jr. yet, give it a watch now. It's only 45 minutes, and that short running time is absolutely packed with creative stunts and trickery.
Not to diminish Chaplin, but christ, have you seen the fucking stuntwork Keaton did? It's funny as shit, but also holy fuck they did that??!
I always thought I was a Keaton man, but the more I watch Chaplin's stuff, the more I think I prefer him. The Gold Rush, Modern Times, and The Kid I enjoy more than a lot of Buster's work. But there's also a lot of Buster I still haven't seen yet.
I think one problem I have with Buster Keaton is the presentation...Chaplin took much better care of his work, and it looks and sounds great today. Buster being as fucked over as he was did have the same kind of ownership, so preservation wasn't as consistent. I remember watching The General on Amazon some time ago and the transfer didn't look good and the score they'd added was so shitty.
I think one problem I have with Buster Keaton is the presentation...Chaplin took much better care of his work, and it looks and sounds great today. Buster being as fucked over as he was did have the same kind of ownership, so preservation wasn't as consistent. I remember watching The General on Amazon some time ago and the transfer didn't look good and the score they'd added was so shitty.
Chaplin is funnier and tugs on the heartstrings more, Keaton is more impressive in his set-pieces
But I've developed an appreciation of Harold Lloyd; his straight-man comic timing, impressive technical aspects of his films, and ridiculous stuntwork have been so entertaining to watch
But I've developed an appreciation of Harold Lloyd; his straight-man comic timing, impressive technical aspects of his films, and ridiculous stuntwork have been so entertaining to watch
I'm sorry buuut
"Machinery meant to give us abundance has left us in want"
"Don't give yourselves to these unnatural men - machine men with machine minds and machine hearts! You are not machines! You are not cattle! You are men! You have the love of humanity in your hearts! You don't hate! Only the unloved hate - the unloved and the unnatural"
"Machinery meant to give us abundance has left us in want"
"Don't give yourselves to these unnatural men - machine men with machine minds and machine hearts! You are not machines! You are not cattle! You are men! You have the love of humanity in your hearts! You don't hate! Only the unloved hate - the unloved and the unnatural"
Harold Lloyd! I took this from his house at the weekend.
And he was friend to the beasts!
This guy is a legend considering that he only had one fully functioning hand left for the majority of his latter films, and wore gloves to give off the illusion he had two full hands, while still doing the stunts he did.
Legend.
Definitely my vote for this discussion, particularly considering that he had the most success out of the 3, which most people probably don't even know.
Keaton was better on camera, Chaplin was better in production, but Chaplin's influence pushes him to the top between those two for me.
A big group of us rented an airbnb (cheaper than a hotel) in Palm Springs to go see some tennis thing (Indian - it got canceled but we decided to go ahead and spend a couple of days rather than lose money.
then the homeowner canceled at the last second but the agency felt bad and gave us an available replacement home for the same rate - it was Harold Lloyd's estate and kind of a museum- amazing photos and history and the "caretaker " - a fancy dude who may well have been the ownerchatted with me for AGES about Harold and the house - he was delighted anybody knew anything about Lloyd!
it was thunder and lightning most of the time and a thoroughly horrible weather weekend for what's normally guaranteed sunshine.
I didn't care and rode my bike up the road all the way to the cable car and what's normally a barren desert gulch had transformed into a miraculous verdant spring with a swimming hole and a rushing creek!
Cellphone shot of miracle creek:
weekend was ruined for everyone except me! Everything's common' up Stinkles! Except for the giant global pandemic and depression...
Keaton when it comes to silent film comedy, Chaplin when it comes to range of talent (The Great Dictator is an amazing movie).
