Who still considers Ocarina of Time to be the GOAT?

[Zyrox]

To me, it still is the best Zelda game. And Zelda is one of the best video game franchises. GOAT? I dunno, but it is definitely still up there. The game mechanics are tight and the whole pacing of the game is absolutely excellent. Nothing really has changed about that imo.
The only thing that really aged is the performance which is why I definitely prefer the 3DS version these days.

 

[TornadoDDT]

Those poll options are so passive aggressive lmao.

 

[Deleted member 32005]

its still in like, the top 3. Botw mightve knocked it down a notch

 

[HanSoloCup]

It's a really fantastic game, but it doesn't even crack my top 3 for 1998 (MGS, Thief, and Xenogears, in case you were wondering), let alone for all time.

 

[DanteSparda504]

It was never the GOAT. It was extremely influential and what it did for 3D gaming was monumental, but the impact it made doesn't make it a GOAT.

It's not even the best Zelda game on the 64, and definitely not the best Zelda in the franchise. It's still a very good game, but not the goat.

 

[ShinUltramanJ]

Outside of nostalgia there's nothing OoT does in terms of gameplay, or the design that hasn't been surpassed elsewhere.

The medium has advanced. Some people will say OoT is the best game 20yrs from now, just because it's Zelda OoT.

 

[Liliana]

Prefered MM, honestly. But BOTW came along and said hold my beer.

 

[Sumio Mondo]

GOAT is, was and has always been a misnomer anyway. "Of All Time". As if nothing could ever surpass something. Anything can be surpassed. Opinions as subjective as they are, are always changing with the times. New fans enter, old fans leave. I always thought GOAT was used as a joke on the internet, or at least in a cheeky kind of nudge nudge way rather than something serious? Also those poll options are...lacking in any kind of real discussion.

But to be honest, I still think OoT is fantastic, at least when I played it on the 3DS a few years ago. Still held up for me. There is beauty in its simplicity. Majora's Mask just feels too complex for me.

 

[MisterHero]

On paper it's easy for future games to quantifiably exceed games like Ocarina of Time.

They aren't Ocarina of Time though.

 

[SmittyWerbenManJensen]

It's a phenomenal game, but ALTTP, Chrono Trigger, and a bunch of other games were better than it back then and are still better than it now.

 

[Piston]

It's still Top 10 for me but I think early 3D games have become dated in many ways compared to their contemporaries. Accounting for impact and quality at the time of release I think there is still a valid case for it but I don't think I'll put it there anymore.

 

[Servbot24]

So far I'm actually surprised this many people voted yes. Out of all the games in the world, 30% agreeing on a single game is an overwhelmingly high percentage. I thought more people might have moved on to new #1s.

(Very tiny sample size of course)

 

[Zedelima]

A masterpiece in every form

the soundtrack is timeless

 

[Worldshaker]

I love OOT but I still liked ALTTP more. Now I think OOT is in the middle of the pack.

 

[srtrestre]

It's now tied with BotW as my GOAT, so it's not the clear cut winner that it used to be before 2017, but still a deeply influential masterpiece.

 

[Petruccis Biceps]

I still think its tied for best Zelda game next to LTTP and for many years I used to think it was the best game ever made. Nowadays, I put Chrono Trigger on that throne of GOAT.

 

[Yggfk]

OoT was dethroned by BOTW. It gave me the same joy, the same happiness I had when I first played OoT, and has the same impact in the general gaming mindshare IMO. I adore both equally, but I have to give BOTW the edge.

 

[Skel1ingt0n]

It's not my PERSONALY favorite game of all time.

But if I had to explain to an alien why video games are enjoyed in two games, I would give them Tetris and OoT.

Sure, it's a bit flawed here and there - and over time, some games have done the dungeon explorer a bit better. But it was a revelation at the time, and games today exist because of what Zelda accomplished with that game. it was a monumental accomplishment building that level of exploration, combat, variety, gameplay, environments, and story into a complete package with an excellent introduction and exceptional conclusion littered with phenomenal puzzles throughout. Outside of performance and maybe some nit-picks with enemy engagements and the water temple, I think it would still easily score a 9/10 or 10/10 on most sites today.

 

[Deleted member 48813]

Played it for the first time in 2011 (original, got the remake later) and I'd still say it's the GOAT personally. It's the best Zelda (only tied with SS for me) and it's just a really well balanced game, the pacing/story/etc is great.

 

[j7vikes]

GOAT at the time no doubt. I think it and Mario 64 and by far the greatest anticipation of games I've ever had. I read the magazines with articles about them over and over and over before they came out. I got OOT for Christmas and played it nonstop over Christmas break as a what 15 year old?

Like pretty much all games you can make strong cases that it has been surpassed by many games. But I'll never look forward to another game as much as I did that one and Mario 64. And I would say upon its release goat status for the time would have been a very common borderline consensus.

 

[IDreamOfHime]

Still my favourite game of all time. 3DS version being my favourite version and the one ive played through the most.

Prefered MM, honestly. But BOTW came along and said hold my beer.

Click to shrink...

Then that beer broke due to poor durability

 

[4CornersTHSA]

For me personally it never surpassed Link To The Past, and was bettered by Wind Waker and especially BOTW.

I absolutely get why it's regarded as a GOAT and am glad folks can enjoy it, but it never really clicked for me the way the original LOZ, LTTP or BOTW did.

 

[Deleted member 10001]

Like Super Mario 64 before it was a disappointment after seeing all the changes made compared to early magazine previews. Still, I became a fan of the game since the 3DS release. Greatest of all-time? Definitely not, but it is a very solid entry in the franchise in retrospect, even the N64 original.

(The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past is IMO the G.O.A.T.)

 

[Binhoker]

Playing that game as a late teen, stoned as shit, back when I could enjoy such things, was a near religious experience.

Honestly some transcendent stuff. Never really felt like with any game since.

But it was very much a time and place thing, I'll never play it again, but I'll sure as shit fire up the soundtrack the odd time.

So I don't know how to answer the poll basically.

 

[KarmaCow]

For as much it as it still serves as the kernel for 3D action game design decades later where the concepts have been iterated upon so much, it still holds up remarkably well. Like with Mario 64 it's especially amazing to look back and see how much they nailed on the early go around in that nascent period of 3D games that's littered with so many failed experiments or outmoded designs. Then you have something like the 3DS remake that shows much the fundamentals of the game and the things specific to it are timeless when the aesthetics are retouched.

 

[GMM]

Absolutely incredible for its time and laid the foundation for action adventure games that came after it, but these days it's a bit clunky and shows it's age due to how much has happened with similar games since then.

A great game showing its age isn't a bad thing, it just shows that it had a lot of impact and inspired other it iterate in what it did.

 

[Eros]

oot was sick as fuck in 1998, but i still preferred alttp then and oot is my 4th favorite zelda now.

 

[Mau]

Back then for sure, now? Not even the best "modern" Zelda game.

Still is one of the greats though

 

[Rockodile]

Super Metroid came out 4 years before and Metroid Prime came 4 years after. Not the GOAT

<Insert avatar quote here>

 

[CobaltBlu]

I think it's my favorite Zelda game. The pacing is very good even if mechanics or its N64ness haven't aged as well.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

It's still amongst the best of all time.

 

[Lothars]

It's an excellent game but it's not the best zelda game. It is significantly better than beath of the wild though.

 

[InspectorJones]

Didn't vote cause none of the options really seem right to me. I still think it's one of the best games ever made considering when it released and when you take that into context I still think it's one of the best games ever even though other games have gone beyond it scale and feature wise

 

[Tavernade]

In terms of the confluence of 'important to the industry' and 'popular' and 'innovative' and 'good' I think it's only competition is Mario 64 and SMB.

 

[JustinBB7]

It was my best of all time until Witcher 3

 

[Skyebaron]

Ocarina on N64 is unplayable by today standards but in my childhood it was the GOAT. The updated version right now is still one of the best of all time.

To me the version of 20 years ago was replaced by the 3DS remake that has a good framerate and emulates quite well.

 

[i hate cheaters]

it's one of the few singleplayer games that deserved high scores because it was a leap forward in terms of design

but a single player game without replayability can never be the GoaT. that would be fundamentally misunderstanding what gaming offers as a medium

the GoaT would be something like quake 3 arena or rise of nations. something that's like the soccer/basketball or chess/go of video games, and not just an ephemeral experience

if there was a RPG where your choices mattered and didn't completely suck in some way, that could also be a candidate. maybe in the future there will be one

 

[Soapbox Killer]

It is a masterwork of gaming with the best most satisfying ending of any game I have ever beaten.

Ocarina of time is still the best video game I have ever played.

 

[Vanta Aurelius]

I'll never argue with anyone who puts Ocarina of Time as the best game ever made. Even with its less polished aspects, it's still one of the most incredibly ambitious and rewarding games for its time, and still holds up till this day.

With the above being said, Resident Evil 4 is my personal pick for best game ever made. I'm not trying to argue with anyone for my opinion, but it still has one of the most perfectly paced, content rich, and ultra replayable campaigns in gaming...and it's in the top 5 most influential games ever setting the foundation for modern third person game design.

 

[Yoshimitsu126]

It really feels like the blueprint and dna for 3D action adventure open world games today. Much like how Resident Evil 4 is for third person shooters.

 

[FreddeGredde]

It still is my greatest experience with a video game, and that will not likely change since I have gotten older and more "been there done that" about everything.

Comparing it today with other Zelda games though, or other games in general? Well, it has to be the 3DS version first of all. And I still think it's the best Zelda story with the best pacing and possibly best music. It's THE Zelda game. And Zelda is my favorite game series.

To me it's the most magical game, but I can't possibly compare it to modern games due to the nostalgia I have for it.

 

[Astronut325]

I found it really boring. Was never the goat for me.

And yes, I played it when it first came out when I was a kid.

 

[mute]

To me it was a huge technical achievement of moving LttP into 3D but even given that I still prefer the latter as a game. OoT is still top 10 material for me though.

 

[jaymzi]

Very impressive results for OoT.

Dunno if any game can get 35% here if you were to ask if it is the GOAT. Maybe BotW.

 

[Torpedo Vegas]

We talking as compared to all other Zeldas or all games in general?

When only looking at Zelda games, it was, but not any longer

When compared to all games, it never was.

 

[DoradoWinston]

it had a pretty large impact but its extremely dated both when it comes to design and also technically

I personally wouldnt really even reccomend it to someone unless they were hardcore, zelda fans or just looking for some retro games to play.

 

[Fuchsia]

I prefer Majora's Mask to be honest. However, OoT was undeniably a watershed moment for the industry and deserves the respect it gets.

 

[giapel]

It's hanging by a thread against Botw but the more concise nature gives it better replayability which keeps it at the top for me.
As much as I love botw, it's a hard game to replay.

PS: no other series even comes close to these 2

 

[Freshmaker]

It had sliding block puzzles to complete pictures and the water dungeon. No way.

 

[andymcc]

It had sliding block puzzles to complete pictures and the water dungeon. No way.

Click to shrink...

Yeah, even back when the game came out, thought these parts in particular really sucked.

It was never my favorite game at release.