Kishimoto literally went on record in Jump Festa 2014 (which happened at December of 2013) that he didn't know how he was going to be able to have the heroes beat Madara and that at the time he was still working through ideas on how he could be beaten with his editor, so he definitely did not have her planned until the year series endedI don't think Kaguya was made for that reason. Conceptually, she fits into the shadow history narrative that he builds throughout the series. I just think that Kaguya could have been better served by having some kind of hinting throughout the series that there was some deeper unknown. Kishi was basically going for turtles all the way down in terms of his view of history and how it arcs into personal narratives, Kaguya fits into this but she wasn't that interesting as a a character/person.
I tried doing some research into this, but I can't find anything that looks to be legit official sources for these comments. It seems unconfirmed, there's also a quote about him supposedly wanting Sasuke to be Hokage at the end of the series. Is there any official interview posted anywhere?Kishimoto literally went on record in Jump Festa 2014 (which happened at December of 2013) that he didn't know how he was going to be able to have the heroes beat Madara, so he definitely did not have her planned until the year series ended
Jump Festa is a live event in Japan so no official interview posted anywhere, but accurate info is often passed on from the event so I see no reason to doubt itI tried doing some research into this, but I can't find anything that looks to be legit official sources for these comments. It seems unconfirmed, there's also a quote sabout him supposedly wanting Sasuke to be Hokage at the end of the series. Is there any official interview posted anywhere?
There's no reason to believe it either, if there's no offiicial source.Jump Festa is a live event in Japan so no official interview posted anywhere, but accurate info is often passed on from the event so I see no reason to doubt it
The worst thing Sasuke does is kill the Hokage nominee who is actually a bad person. The people he confronts throughout the series, the members of Konoha, are part of a corrupt regime and in his eyes at least complicit. I think his error comes in not being able to see his peers, the other youth of Konoha being pushed into military service, as victims like he was. He is distanced from them and everybody else because the trauma he has faced causes him to act out in ways that are vengeful and at times irrational.I have scientific proof that Sakura is the worst over Sauske.
Sauske does torpedo the series and make everyone around him act stupid while he acts like a deranged psychopath who gets hand waived for his crimes with a "yeah sorry about that". All of this is true and makes him a terrible character.
I mean I can't completely speak for the sources of the Naruto event in particular, but I've never seen anyone who specifically said it was wrong and I feel like that's unlikely for this type of event. I know we've gotten tons of accurate One Piece stuff from Jump Festa, but given my understanding of how tickets to the stages where this stuff happens works it could be an issue of different sources. But yeah proving it with complete accuracy right now is probably impossible just because of how the event works and the fact that a lot of the original sources come from defunct forumsThere's no reason to believe it either, if there's no offiicial source.
I mean, he was definitely one of the nakedest.
More like 90%. Her battle against Sasori is one of the hypest fights in the series.You can't be considered the worst when you have a glorious name like The Sauce.
Sakura is 100% shit tho.
Or just have Gai kill him like he almost didI still don't quite understand why he couldn't just make up shit and say that Madara can also be sealed
Nah, that was some of the best stuff in Naruto.They were not. Everything after the Sasuke v Itachi fight was an unmitigated disaster.
This scenario could never happen but you would have to put Naruto in a situation where he can't talk no jutsu his way out. The village would need to throw down an ultimatum that Sasuke be imprisoned or at least banished and if Sasuke fights back then their blood is on Naruto's hands.Lol how you gonna make Sasuke pay for his crimes if the only dude capable of laying a finger on him is totally cool with the guy, let me hear your ideas
Lol how you gonna make Sasuke pay for his crimes if the only dude capable of laying a finger on him is totally cool with the guy, let me hear your ideas
Two negatives make a positive, which is why we've ended up with Sarada. Not that I dislike either of the two. Naruto is, in my opinion, the worst character in Naruto.It's funny that the two worst characters are married to each other.
In what world is Sasuke the best part of Naruto? He's rule number one of how not to write a character.Sasuke and the Uchiha were some of the best parts of Naruto.
Sasuke is not like Poochie. He is integrated into the overarching narrative and is crucial to the main characters growth.
No, this is a common misreading. Rin dying pushed Obito into further seeing the world and system as corrupt and irresolvable. It wasn't -just- because she was dead, it was because the machinations behind her death showed him the seemingly impossible cycle of violence with children being used as soldiers.
The characters that people 'hate' in Naruto for the most part have clearly defined motivations and reasoning behind their actions and personalities. They are largely victims of a cruel and unjust system and burdened with heavy trauma. The hate for these characters is usually fairly irrational, or at least reflects on a hardline conservative view of justice and forgiveness. Naruto threads like these are at least somewhat enlightening in that they kind of show how people are fairly reactionary in how they view the moral quandaries the series depicts.
Thank you.
All of the people listing Hinata disappoint me. Too much of her character revolves around Naruto, yes, but she was pretty well written insofar as supporting main characters go.
See there are two reasons I disagree. First, at least she's rather inoffensive. Sure she's a space flea out of nowhere, but at least she's not a sexist, crazed piece of shit like Madara, or criminally foolish like Sasuke and Obito. None of whom ever are made to truly answer for their crimes. We're just supposed to shut up and empathize, which I can't really do. I'm never given a good reason for the proportion of their crimes compared to their grief.Anyhow, as far as worst character goes, it's probably not anyone on that list except for Kaguya.
Kishimoto was generally pretty good at writing himself out of his own craziness during Naruto, but Kaguya is the one point where you can tell his skill as a writer completely failed him. Not even in the whole "Black Zetsu was manipulating all of Ninja history" way, but in the sense that she basically took ALL the hype out of Madara, and didn't provide anything nearly as exciting. Plus, fatigue hit it's highest point there after how long the previous events were. It's a big factor as to why the Fourth Shinobi World Era story arcs are as weak as they are
See there are two reasons I disagree. First, at least she's rather inoffensive. Sure she's a space flea out of nowhere, but at least she's not a sexist, crazed piece of shit like Madara, or criminally foolish like Sasuke and Obito. None of whom ever are made to truly answer for their crimes. We're just supposed to shut up and empathize, which I can't really do. I'm never given a good reason for the proportion of their crimes compared to their grief.
Second, as I keep bringing up, even if KISHI handled her story poorly, the anime made Kaguya basically the most sympathetic antagonist since Haku and Zabuza, and if you know how much I love Haku that's saying something. She becomes much less a villain, more a sort of Mothra figure. "Oh, I see now, you all can't stop fighting each other. You all are going to fuck up this planet, so I'm going to protect it from my evil relatives AND you." Seeing her character arc through her arrival on Earth to her being (perhaps rightfully) betrayed by her own sons is pretty touching, for Naruto anyway.
Yeah it's "filler", but I've never been a fan of dismissing filler out of hand as completely worthless.
Okay I'm going to need an explanation here. This is the FIRST time I've seen anyone ever say Tsunade was a bad character.
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!I've only seen a handful of episodes, but my least favorite was easily Rock Lee. Hated everything about him.
I'm glad we can agree on that much.Yeah, you're right about that second point. The Kaguya stuff in the anime was great.
The anime really excels at that kind of stuff in general. One of the high points of the Boruto anime has been how they've fleshed out the supporting cast in a way the manga hasn't been able to.
There's an alternate universe out there where Haku replaces Sasuke on Team 7.Naruto would be a thousand times better if Sasuke never existed
Two wrongs DO make a right?LMFAO
Both Sasuke and Sakura leading the poll for worst character and yet their daughter Sarada is pretty much the best kid in Boruto series