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Who is Sephiroth's father?
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The trailer for FFVII: The First Soldier has a glimpse at young Hojo
There's no mystery.
We're told who it is and we're not meant to doubt it.
We're told who it is and we're not meant to doubt it.
Given that you made the poll multiple choice, those 20% could have also voted for Hojo.
He's whipped his gun out as well.The trailer for FFVII: The First Soldier has a glimpse at young Hojo
Me, someone who knows next to nothing about FF VII and Kingdom Hearts' lore:
wat?
Why is this a debate? I thought it was clear in the original game's flashback that Lucretia conceived a child with Hojo, then he experimented on her fetus by injecting Jenova cells into it. Vincent was never intimate with her, but they may have been friends.
I was always under the impression back in the day that Hojo had raped Lucrecia. But it's possibly because I found Hojo so repulsive that it was the only way I could see Lucrecia getting impregnated by him...
Anyway, it's obviously Hojo and that was never a debate.
Anyway, it's obviously Hojo and that was never a debate.
Definitely Hojo.
Dirge gives disturbing details on the lengths he went through to obtain Sephiroth.
In regards to the statement: "He looks nothing like Hojo" Dirge showed that Sephiroth got ALL his looks from Lucrecia. They look insanely alike.
Dirge gives disturbing details on the lengths he went through to obtain Sephiroth.
In regards to the statement: "He looks nothing like Hojo" Dirge showed that Sephiroth got ALL his looks from Lucrecia. They look insanely alike.
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That was the original plan according the Ultimania Guides. Hojo was meant to have drugged her, but Square thought it was too iffy so they rewrote the backstory to make it so that she was not forced.
So you admit that the Ultimania leaves it very clear that Hojo is the father, then? :P
Oh I'm just shitposting.
I have 0 clue about FF VII and KH neither.
One could argue that regardless of the scenario, Hojo manipulated her. The question is, did she consent to being experimented on?
Lucrecia is a name associated with rape. The rape of Lucretia is a founding myth of "Roman womanhood." (She killed herself afterwards. It's a toxic story of women internalizing themselves as their husbands' property).
lol
Yeah, I don't think my teenage self knew about this haha. So somehow I got this impression without knowing about the Roman myth. But that's pretty good evidence I'd say, they had to know choosing that name on purpose...
yes, Lucrecia consented to it.
her whole deal is being an amoral scientist that grows a conscience and gains a guilt complex over her actions.
I would like to see the remake expand on the (love?) triangle between Hojo, Lucretia and Vincent. Moreover, since it's assumed Sephiroth has time traveled to the past and presumably has the knowledge of who his parents are, then maybe he'll want to change history by killing Hojo or something. It could be interesting if Sephiroth met with Lucretia at some point during the remake.
Haven't seen a fan theory about sephiroth backfire so hard since, uh, your last sephiroth thread earlier this month. ;)
Guess Sephiroth's genocidal tendencies are genetic. How ironic.
KH doesn't mention Jenova at all, don't put this on KH!
…KH lore on Cloud and Sephiroth in particular is actually kinda weird given how it handles the other 7 (and 8) characters. And meanwhile Zack was around 10 years in the past (hanging out in Olympus, just like Cloud ended up doing) but was never mentioned again by anyone.
Look it's simple.
Cloud is Zack's Nobody and Sephiroth is Zack's Heartless.
And Tifa is the sentient embodiment of Cloud's light or something.
One of these two lines is real, probably.
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I feel like there's a pronounced pause after every other line.
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Oh lol
I totally believed you though. The little I played of Kingdom Hearts was pretty crazy.
This isn't really something up for debate IMO?
The game, the Ultimania, even Dirge all say the same thing on the subject.
The game, the Ultimania, even Dirge all say the same thing on the subject.
He does, yeah.
But isn't it cooler to think that brooding bad boy vampire gunslinger Vincent Valentine is Sephiroth's father???
It's tragic or whatever! Vincent kills his son!
Here's my fan art of Vincent cradling his dead son!
She was literally married to Hojo.
There is no reason to believe it was anyone other than Hojo.
There is no reason to believe it was anyone other than Hojo.
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