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Who Is Resetera's Favorite Joker...
- Thread starter Angie
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Nicholson having only 40ish votes more than Leto... SMH
For me, Batman and the Joker are and will always be Keaton and Nicholson. Best Batmobile is also Burton Batmobile.
For me, Batman and the Joker are and will always be Keaton and Nicholson. Best Batmobile is also Burton Batmobile.
What makes this especially difficult is the vastly varying amount of time that each of these people spent as Joker. It's not easy to try to compare Hamill's time as Joker spanning around 25 years to someone who's in one movie regardless of how iconic they were in that movie.
Still giving it to Hamill despite the difficulty of the choice though. Not only is he excellent as TAS Joker, he's also excellent as the Arkham series Joker, and although he's clearly bringing a lot of the same energy to that role, they are two distinct characters, and both of them are the definitive version of Joker within their primary medium. That isn't true for any other iteration of Joker in any medium.
Although I think Hamill is the best answer, given the time disparity involved, perhaps it's worth saying that I think Ledger had the best single performance as Joker, and also that I think Monaghan probably had the single best few minutes in the role, in his very first appearance on Gotham during that last police interview/interrogation scene. That scene starts off as a routine wrap-up of an investigation and within the space of it, Monaghan's performance table-flips the tone of the episode and the character. They might not have been allowed to call him Joker, but he earned it right then anyway.
Tudyk should be on the poll instead of Leto.
Voice actors deserve to be considered for things like this, and I'd say that's even more true for Joker than for most other characters, and I think it's also clear how hard Hamill worked to make sure that his voice acting matched up to (and influenced) the visual portion of his animated Joker characters. Probably the single best demonstration of how good Hamill's voice acting is as a Joker characterisation is Arkham Asylum, where the Joker can't be on-screen all the time, so is constantly on the radio to his thugs and to Batman instead. That the Joker feels so twistedly and constantly present throughout that game is almost purely down to Hamill's voice work.
Still giving it to Hamill despite the difficulty of the choice though. Not only is he excellent as TAS Joker, he's also excellent as the Arkham series Joker, and although he's clearly bringing a lot of the same energy to that role, they are two distinct characters, and both of them are the definitive version of Joker within their primary medium. That isn't true for any other iteration of Joker in any medium.
Although I think Hamill is the best answer, given the time disparity involved, perhaps it's worth saying that I think Ledger had the best single performance as Joker, and also that I think Monaghan probably had the single best few minutes in the role, in his very first appearance on Gotham during that last police interview/interrogation scene. That scene starts off as a routine wrap-up of an investigation and within the space of it, Monaghan's performance table-flips the tone of the episode and the character. They might not have been allowed to call him Joker, but he earned it right then anyway.
Tudyk should be on the poll instead of Leto.
If Hamill wasn't on the poll then 90% of the topic would consist of people rightly asking why Hamill wasn't on the poll.
Voice actors deserve to be considered for things like this, and I'd say that's even more true for Joker than for most other characters, and I think it's also clear how hard Hamill worked to make sure that his voice acting matched up to (and influenced) the visual portion of his animated Joker characters. Probably the single best demonstration of how good Hamill's voice acting is as a Joker characterisation is Arkham Asylum, where the Joker can't be on-screen all the time, so is constantly on the radio to his thugs and to Batman instead. That the Joker feels so twistedly and constantly present throughout that game is almost purely down to Hamill's voice work.
I see your a person of taste.
Romero > Hamill > Ledger > Whoever Does Joker in Harley Quinn > Nicholson > The Rest > Literally Any Joker Cosplayer > Leto
Ledger
Hamill
Phoenix
In that order. What's impressive is that Phoenix ranks that high for me and was only the character for 15 minutes.
Hamill
Phoenix
In that order. What's impressive is that Phoenix ranks that high for me and was only the character for 15 minutes.
If you had told me these were made by some random dude on YouTube I'd believe you.
I voted Joaquin, although I wonder if it's just because I've seen the Ledger movie so many times that it doesn't have the same impact. Both are wonderful.
Then that random dude would deserve an award or something, because Gotham was amazing.
Like anything batman that is actually the best version is the animated series, so Mark Hamill, although as a spaniard i should say Luis Bajo (series) and Jose Padilla (games), as its really their versions the ones that i grew up with. Still same character and same charismatic voices as Hamill.
They're not. A lot of voice actors aren't good actors. See Mark Hamill as an example. Yes, he can do a good voice for Joker but he doesn't know how to physically act like Joker.
They aren't the same level. You are attributing value points to that. You're trying to make to smudge what I said.
It is a voice acting role, and those should be given their own category because it requires a specific skill set.
I still don't quite believe that people unironically like anything Gotham-related. It's such cringe.
There are many different takes on the role and it's unfair to really compare some of them, but my overall favorite is Phoenix since he really makes the character feel like more than just a one track evil villain.
There is nothing wrong with Heath Ledgers take that I also love, it's just a very different character and Ledger really delivers on the concept of the Joker being an insane rebel out to cause chaos to prove a point.
Two very distinct and remarkable takes on an iconic role, I'm very curious if they do more with Phoenix.
I also didn't hate Leto's Joker, the guy is an asshole but he's a tremendous actor whose take got butchered by so many aspects of the production being poor, I could still see him do a good Joker if given a better script and direction.
There is nothing wrong with Heath Ledgers take that I also love, it's just a very different character and Ledger really delivers on the concept of the Joker being an insane rebel out to cause chaos to prove a point.
Two very distinct and remarkable takes on an iconic role, I'm very curious if they do more with Phoenix.
I also didn't hate Leto's Joker, the guy is an asshole but he's a tremendous actor whose take got butchered by so many aspects of the production being poor, I could still see him do a good Joker if given a better script and direction.
I don't know how you can claim "aren't the same level" isn't a value statement.
And if you ever saw Hamill in the booth you'd very much rethink that statement.
There is no need to rethink that statement. I have seen Hamil in other work besides Star Wars and Joker voice roles.
But you can make some form of movement to include voice acting into best acting award spots. You will need to include every facet of acting, then, like stunt work, CGI facial work, and arguably CGI motion creators. But there is a reason why committees seperate these because the masses will vote for Daniel Day Lewis over Mark Hamil's voice acting. They're not the same. Trying to hold voice acting as the same as screen or stage acting isn't reasonable because both require very different skill sets.
Was Leto not available for this picture so they had to drag Andrew Garfield off the street?Era wanted no beef :(
I'm just gonna say I think what you're saying is incredibly reductive and move on.
By far the best voice acting in the game. Shame the voice actor didn't returned for PSP Innocent Sin.
joe was an easy favorite when i first started watching but now q is probably my favorite
I'm partial to Nicholson, but also recognize that I was the perfect age for the Batman '89 wave. He's probably the best at the crime boss side of the character, and this moment is an all-timer:
But definitely don't sleep on Cesar Romero. Every subsequent performance owes a debt to his interpretation, especially the laugh.
But definitely don't sleep on Cesar Romero. Every subsequent performance owes a debt to his interpretation, especially the laugh.
