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Who here truly thinks Tony Stark will die in Avengers: Endgame?
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I think the reason is Tony Stark the character feels so tired now in the movies. He's riddled with PTSD and the weight of defending the world. It feels like he wants it all over with himself, secretly. As though he does things now out of obligation and without joy or lust for the fight. It feels like the only thing left for his character now is to end, either happily or unhappily.
Thor on the other hand just had a reinvigorating turn in Ragnarok and wants to kick Thanos' ass. He's got tons of fight left in him. He doesn't feel like his character is exhausted and needs a golden watch and to be rushed off stage. Banner's on the cusp of a new arc it seems, with him and Hulk making peace together. It doesn't feel like his time either.
This is it, mark this post:
Stark: Retired, will do cameos from here on out.
Steve: Dead
So it is written.
Stark: Retired, will do cameos from here on out.
Steve: Dead
So it is written.
I don't think Tony will die.
I also don't think people really want Cap to die. It's just been an assumption because of the comic arc were Cap dies and someone else takes his mantle.
In terms of just the MCU, I do think Cap would be an appropriate character to sacrifice himself because everything about him is set up that way, even if some might see it as cliche.
When we first see Steve, he is ready to sacrifice himself without a thought to save others. It's only appropriate he goes out the same way.
There is also a built-in melancholy to Cap as the man out of time. The MCU has only reinforced this in multiple scenes across the films. Cap has nobody, only the mission, and while he's certainly not suicidal - far from it - he's also maybe the only person who wouldn't feel any guilt about putting himself in harm's way. He wouldn't be abandoning a loved one - they're all gone.
Tony's struggle is with his own preoccupied obsessions. Tony has people to go back to. He has some growth left to achieve before he's done, and that growth doesn't involve dying.
I also don't think people really want Cap to die. It's just been an assumption because of the comic arc were Cap dies and someone else takes his mantle.
In terms of just the MCU, I do think Cap would be an appropriate character to sacrifice himself because everything about him is set up that way, even if some might see it as cliche.
When we first see Steve, he is ready to sacrifice himself without a thought to save others. It's only appropriate he goes out the same way.
There is also a built-in melancholy to Cap as the man out of time. The MCU has only reinforced this in multiple scenes across the films. Cap has nobody, only the mission, and while he's certainly not suicidal - far from it - he's also maybe the only person who wouldn't feel any guilt about putting himself in harm's way. He wouldn't be abandoning a loved one - they're all gone.
Tony's struggle is with his own preoccupied obsessions. Tony has people to go back to. He has some growth left to achieve before he's done, and that growth doesn't involve dying.
Tony dies, but uploads his AI into his tech so that he can come in for simple voice work when the next iron man (let's go Riri) comes around.
Steve will go back to ww2 and be with his love. Help strengthen the avengers, Tony's parents never die. Tony never becomes iron man but he is still a genius who creates an iron man suit for his son
He'll die on the way back home but he'll make a come back somehow to reverse the snap. Maybe with help from Cpt.Marvel He's not dieing at the end of the movie. He'll marry and father a kid with Pepper.
Cap will die or at least he'll stay back in time and 'retires' with Peggy in the past? But I can't remember if she married and had kids so that would be weird if that happened.
Cap will die or at least he'll stay back in time and 'retires' with Peggy in the past? But I can't remember if she married and had kids so that would be weird if that happened.
I agree.
If not dead, both are going to be retired somehow. But I'm betting on death.
I don't understand why there are so many people in this thread drawing conclusions from the absence of Tony in Far From Home. There are at least a dozen possible explanations for that that don't involve Iron Man dying in Endgame.
Agreed, which is why I never understood people that got upset that the dusted folks might come back. They don't need to stay dead for this storyline to be compelling.
Why?
He was needed in Homecoming for a number of reasons. I highly doubt he's needed in the plot for FFH.
I don't think anyone is going to die. I think they're going to chicken out and have Tony retire, or have Cap go back to his own time by using the Time Storne or something. That way they leave the door open for small cameos down the road.
They wouldn't replace Stark with Happy and Nick in a new Spider-Man movie without a really good reason, lol.
All the signs are there. He's gone.
My theory based on nothing is that the whole Chris Evans is done being cap is a swerve and a cover for the fact that Tony will die.
I could see this as well.
I could 100% buy into Evans continuing on and Downey being the AI for the next Iron Man.
Tony's gonna try to bring everyone back in some suicidal gesture, Cap'll stop him and do it in his place.
Cap dead, the ashed back, Tony retires and passes the mantle to someone else.
Cap dead, the ashed back, Tony retires and passes the mantle to someone else.
Yes. I honestly think one of the biggest things pointing in this direction is
Ty Simpkins returning from IM3. He's obviously aged too much to reprise Harley Keener as he appeared in that film for flashbacks or time travel, and I don't see him playing a role in the main plot given how many characters who've appeared more recently than six years ago that the film has to service, so him being a guest at Stark's funeral seems like the most logical place to put a cameo.
No, Steve will. Tony has so much to live for, he and Pepper are going to make a family, and he's going to pass on his experience and tech to the next generation. Steve is a symbol from a time that's lost to him. Everyone he loved is gone. His only purpose at this point is to sacrifice himself one last time to save trillions.
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Oh wow I totally forgot about this supposed cameo. I still think Tony lives. It is kind of weird to have a past character to represent the mentee role when MCU Spider-Man exists. But maybe the kid is whom Tony passes on the Iron Man suit. Not sure how I feel about it honestly but it could happen.
Actually yes, simply because if you don't go there after actually killing and bringing back half of all your characters, you cannot have any sense of danger in these movies again.
I think somebody has to pay the price.
It's him or Captain America or both. There's no reason why either of these guys would stop being Avengers, so how are they going to write them out of the series?
He might die but I think time travel will play a roll and revert back to before infinity war takes place, especially if we have a year time jump in End Game. It might make sense to have everyone forget about a traumatizing event and set the clock back, especially as Spider-Man is still in high school and going on summer vacay.
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