Thanks. Pretty good news, at least.There have been five deaths associated with this outbreak
WHO: 14,000 monkeypox cases worldwide, 5 deaths
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WHO declares highest alert over monkeypox
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Five, all in Africa despite most cases coming from Europe, likely due to the relative availability of healthcare in those nations.
At least in the US, vaccine availability is pretty low. Is Europe's having better luck in that regard? I asked my doc about it and he said he hasn't heard a word about availability around here yet, and he's pretty on top of those things
I know there are vaccines in France but they're limited as well. They're targeted towards MSM and sex workers, mostly.
I mean it's always "no cause for worry"...until it is, sadly. It sucks because this isn't the first time some major agency had really bad timing with these things.
You get very visible physical symptoms with this virus. It isn't something you're getting tested for at a STI clinic.
I took bye's very helpful advice and called some health departments to try to get on a vaccine list. Here is what I learned from multnomah county health department in Portland OR:
-They are able to administer 100 doses per week right now. They are hoping to increase that but will be happy if they can just maintain it. They don't know how many doses they are getting until they receive the shipment.
-As of today there are over 700 people in their waiting list. The queue is growing much more quickly than they are able to get supply.
-I was able to get on the list, but the requirements appear to be very strict.
If you have a confirmed exposure or are a msm and want to be vaccinated, now is the best time to call and get on one of these lists. Sounds like it's just gonna get tougher.
-They are able to administer 100 doses per week right now. They are hoping to increase that but will be happy if they can just maintain it. They don't know how many doses they are getting until they receive the shipment.
-As of today there are over 700 people in their waiting list. The queue is growing much more quickly than they are able to get supply.
-I was able to get on the list, but the requirements appear to be very strict.
If you have a confirmed exposure or are a msm and want to be vaccinated, now is the best time to call and get on one of these lists. Sounds like it's just gonna get tougher.
You know it! Not sure why this thread inspired that music in my head, but it did. Music heals.
I have an update on this. They called me again right after I posted this with extra doses and I'm now fully vaccinated. Yes, fully, because according to the guy at the health department, the CDC is seeing very good results with a single dose of this vaccine and will no longer be scheduling second doses due to scarcity issues.
I also was given info on quickly getting vaccinated which I was invited to distribute to friends who would like to receive the vaccine immediately. I do not want to get anyone in trouble so I'm not going to post it publicly. But if you are a msm in the Portland OR metro area who would like to be vaccinated against monkeypox as soon as possible, shoot me a dm and I will be happy to share this info with you.
yeah! you got that right! wish i had more to contribute to the thread, but i wanted to let you know you were heard lmao
stay safe y'all
Thank you. And if anyone is curious, it's from Jeff Wayne's musical rendition of The War of the Worlds from I think '78 or '79.
Stay safe as well!
The CDC has had multiple failures regarding COVID since early 2020.
Are we still under the assumption that they are still being responsible enough both for COVID and now Monkeypox?
I was not told this, but it was Thursday. Maybe things have changed.
Exhibits of the result of the CDC's and the media's portrayal of monkeypox as if it's an STD.
The CDC is downright irresponsible. DOWNRIGHT
Yep, just look at twitter. Right now groomers is trending and what's the first thing you see when you click on it?
You can see the responses from people to the article here, it's all gay panic.
Amazing job from the CDC, really seems like the liberal government is handling emerging pandemics completely different than the last admin 🙄What can you expect from the same guy who handled the AIDs epidemic?
Just yikes all around. The arrival of monkeypox as well as the "Groomer" discourse in the US and the continuing irresponsibility of the CDC I mean, it's all a mess. What's left to say?
Seems like it could be important.
www.medrxiv.org
Air and surface sampling for monkeypox virus in UK hospitals
Background An unprecedented outbreak of monkeypox virus (MPXV) infections in non-endemic countries has been recognised since 12 May 2022. More than 6000 cases have been identified globally with more than 1500 in the UK by July 2022. Transmission of MPXV is believed to be predominantly through...
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Seems to not be good.Seems like it could be important.
Air and surface sampling for monkeypox virus in UK hospitals
Background An unprecedented outbreak of monkeypox virus (MPXV) infections in non-endemic countries has been recognised since 12 May 2022. More than 6000 cases have been identified globally with more than 1500 in the UK by July 2022. Transmission of MPXV is believed to be predominantly through...
FWIW, the administration is attempting to remedy this: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/20/us/politics/hhs-aspr-biden.html
Way too late.
Also as stated in the thread, what the CDC director said on Monkeypox last Friday is stigmatizing and outright irresponsible, as shown here
How difficult is it to get the vaccine in the US?
Or anywhere else for that matter?
Whether MSM or not?
The coverage is really reminding me of the AIDS coverage in the US in the 80s, and that isn't good. It's not as bad as the Larry Speakes conferences, but the rush to/promotion of a conclusion that the vector is all just "gay people doing gay things" is really disconcerting and it ignores history that many of these jackasses lived through.
And with the prevalence of the groomer discourse among the right, yikes things are gonna get worse.
I believe there are some states that have a lot more doses but currently it's pretty limited around the world. There's many countries with no vaccines at all (though, with a very small amount of cases as well; i.e. Latin American countries at the moment). Some European countries (like France) have big queues of people waiting for their vaccine.
I would suggest that, unless you're the targeted populations at the moment (i.e. MSM with multiple sex partners), wait until further information and/or the availability is more widespread. Like, I get people are being scared about this, but I read someone posted here they got the vaccine despite not being sexually active at the moment but worried about getting it at work. Currently, studies* are showing the pox is transmitted primarily through sex (95%) and mainly between MSM. So, yeah, there's always a chance you might get it at work, but it'll probably not be the case. Even worse, since vaccines are so limited at the moment, someone who isn't likely to get monkey pox might use up the space of someone that actually needs it (and they might, unknowingly, infect someone else). Just a friendly PSA.
* NEJM study
Hello. That person was me.
I'm not worried about getting it at work. I was merely acknowledging that, via the nature of my job, which I have not disclosed in this thread, direct and physical contact is not unusual.
More to the point, I was contacted by my city's health department as a candidate for the vaccine because I qualify under multiple high risk factors.
But it's not a disease spread through sex, anyone can catch it through contact
Seems like it could be important.
Air and surface sampling for monkeypox virus in UK hospitals
Background An unprecedented outbreak of monkeypox virus (MPXV) infections in non-endemic countries has been recognised since 12 May 2022. More than 6000 cases have been identified globally with more than 1500 in the UK by July 2022. Transmission of MPXV is believed to be predominantly through...
You can, didn't say you couldn't. I'm pointing at the fact that 95% of cases were transmitted through sex (not because monkey pox is an STI but because of close, intimate and long exposure/contact). Which is why vaccines are currently targeted at MSM with multiple sex partners/sex workers/people who have been in close contact with people infected with monkey pox.
Got a text message yesterday saying I could get the vaccine in London today. Turn up and there was a three hour queue, they said they were overwhelmed by the response and they had to turn me away. He said until now they've normally sent out about 1000 invites per day and maybe 300 turn up but because of the WHO announcement yesterday a far higher number have turned up and they can't satisfy the demand. What a nightmare.
Though it's a case where the first cases happened to be from MSM, and I get why there's a categorization for " at risk" groups as those prioritized but at the same time, there's the fact that Gay people are being stigmatized by the CDC and the Media treating like this is a disease of gay people spread by sex, especially dangerous with the whole groomer wholabaloo by the right.
Way too late.
Also as stated in the thread, what the CDC director said on Monkeypox last Friday is stigmatizing and outright irresponsible, as shown here
I mean, I agree. I'm not trying to frame it like that, either. The science is pretty clear in that anyone can be infected, no matter your sexual orientation or age. But I also think that, because those populations are more affected by monkey pox, it's clear to me that they should be a priority. This doesn't mean that if you're not one of those targeted populations you won't get monkey pox, but rather, that because it's currently more prevalent at those communities, public health efforts should be targeted there to help them and ensure they're vaccinated soon (and sooner than the rest, as the evidence is showing they're more likely to get exposed).
The vaccine scenario around the world with regards to monkey pox is worrying, as there's clearly not enough vaccines for everyone. If anyone gets to vaccinate just as soon as they want, you might be neglecting the communities that are more exposed.
Small edit: I also agree in that the way monkey pox information is communicated needs to improve, for sure. Otherwise, it could happen (I'm sure it's already happening) that people who are straight or cis might think - "hey, I'm not one of those populations, I'll be alright". It's also what happened with AIDS or PrEP, even.
That's absolutely NOT what I read from people in france who have monkey pox actually.
The sores can be extremely painful, and some experience high fever and stop eating because going to the toilet becomes a torture. It's like hémorroïds on steroids.
Also you have to isolate yourself for a few weeks while you are contagious which can be very problematic for work etc…
And the virus transmission is airborne too, even if less contagious than the latest covid strains.
That's not what I call « mild »
I lucked out with COVID even though I was in ground zero but I don't trust my luck with this one. 😔
I posted an update further down the thread. I got it yesterday, the same day I started inquiring. I had to do a bit of legwork and be ready to fly out the door when the call came in but I got it. Nbd.
I was also told the vaccine is readily available in my city if you know where to go and what to say. I would encourage anyone in a high-risk category in the US to seek it out. I don't think it's hard to get in major metros if you qualify. You just have to make the calls - local health departments, infectious disease departments, LGBT+ clinics, your primary care doc, etc.
Also note vaccine availability has effectively doubled as of this weekend as the CDC has changed the regime to one shot, no booster.
edit: to your last question I cannot speak to that. When I was vaccinated yesterday, everyone there was a queer man, and what was communicated to us was that the city health department is focusing its efforts on protecting our communities and stopping the spread within them, which is, frankly, in everyone's best interest at this stage.
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The media and people here need to stop calling it mild. I have it right now. It is anything but mild.
Ah that's rough, I'm sorry you're suffering with it. Hope you feel better!
Symptoms can definitely be severe, especially if you have any sores located on intimate areas. It is not something anyone wants to catch.
I'm probably going to look into the vaccine this week. Hearing about the numbers here in Georgia have me concerned for sure.
I read your thread. I feel so awful for you. It sounds immensely uncomfortable and painful. Hope you're on the mend.
I feel a little better today than yesterday. The sores are beginning to dry a little but not scab yet. Probably looking like another week or so for some semblance of normalcy again. Going to beg the doctor to try and get me on TPOXX tomorrow
It sounds like they've made it easier for doctors to utilize TPOXX in some way, so fingers crossed here for you that you get some help and relief!!
Not saying it's spreading easy, but there are examples of where MSM (men having sex with men) wasn't even happening. Spreading can be done through more than just intimate contact. It's already confirmed that it can linger on fabrics, and if you happen to use the same fabric (ie. a towel to dry your hands) you have an elevated chance of getting it under certain circumstances.
According to the Dutch government:
I am cishet, but even I can see the dangers if people aren't taking precautions against it on time. A virus doesn't discriminate if you are gay or not, that's just not how it works. It's not a "gay disease". Same as HIV or AIDS never were, but the media loves to scapegoat to gay people.
All I am saying is that people have to be aware of the virus, whether you're gay or not.
Speaking of the Dutch government: Netherlands begins vaccination against monkeypox
I know that at least with in the evangelical churches in my city have transitioned to these little cups that are sealed with the grape juice and a sealed flap up top for a wafer
Way too late.
Also as stated in the thread, what the CDC director said on Monkeypox last Friday is stigmatizing and outright irresponsible, as shown here
Walensky fucking sucks at her job. She sucks at the Covid response and she's going to fucking suck at monkey pox. She's an embarrassment to the field of science and medicine. She's failing America with her obvious capitalist political bullshit