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Who’s your favorite Final Fantasy villain that isn’t Kefka or Sephiroth?
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Fuuuck...seriously?
Never beat FFT but I assumed during that last stretch he would get his.
The judges in 12 were forgettable, the evil pope in 13 sucked, Ardyn was background noise, Sin wasn't even a character etc
In particular Ardyn sucked ass because the game was so fragmented and clumsy with its storytelling that anything interesting about him was lost (also he was braindead easy to beat and the fight was not interesting at all).
barely
I actually liked the final boss of FFX... maybe he wasn't very well developed but the dynamic was good.
It may be an MMO but the story and characters in those games are close to my heart with the best FFs.
When its good, its really good.
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On another note while Kuja is my favorite villain overall, Ardyn is easily my favorite design.Facts
I really hope that rumoured update to ease new players into FF14 comes soon because I really need to see Emet Selch for myself. He sounds really good.
The ARR rework is scheduled for patch 5.3, which is coming out this summer. It's only reworking the base game and it's patches though, you'd still have two expansions to get through before you get to Shadowbringers
Loved this scene, it just says so much about him.
This is the moment he had convinced his own ailing father to be murdered by him for the sake of the family. It just shows everything about what kind of person he is. He even repeats his own father's words soon after he murdered him "and so House Solidor lives on"
Still sounds better than what people make it out to be right now so that's good.
Kuja, Edea/Ultimecia, Vayne (me and 3 other people like him!), and Rufus Shinra are some of my favourites.
Haven't met this Emet-Selch fella yet as I'm only level 72.
Haven't met this Emet-Selch fella yet as I'm only level 72.
Ultimecia has the best potential. I love the tragedy around her. She is iconic.
Kuja is cool too. Ardyn is meh.
Kuja is cool too. Ardyn is meh.
I really like Better Ultimecia too
Really good motivations and a tragic figure in her own, though she doesn't lean on it. In a world abandoned by the goddess, she chose to become the goddess herself in order to protect it.
I'd say that FFXIV rekindled my love for Final Fantasy in general.
You're not far off now, assuming you are in the Stormblood patches.
Came in to say if anyone doesn't pick this they are either wrong or didn't play Shadowbringers.
The true villain of FF14 is this stupid fish that robbed hours of my life.
The Warden of the Seven Hues requires a lot of nonsense to get its intuition window, and even then, you're probably going to have to go through it several times to actually land the stupid thing.
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In a nutshell, he gives context to the mysterious masked villians behind all the major conflicts in the game this far. That's a tall order, and more importantly it was well written. Unlike a regular main villain who comes in at the beginning to job your character, show up once in the middle, and die at the end, emet was written to be part of the expansions story throughout meaning he was justifiably and convincingly built up unlike most game that have to result to flashback or stupid audiologs to fill in gaps. Narratively he has a reason to not be against you either because as always, he has a plan. Combine that with brilliant voice acting, a strong script, and finally, an absolutely STELLAR final act and it catapults him to the top of any villain list.
It's just a shame most people will never experience shadowbringers
Delita is it, 100%. He plays the game in such a fantastic way and has a really interesting moral compass that is followed through on. Also you never get to fight him--you only get to see him succeed thanks to what you do to set him up.
The final scene with him and Ovelia is fucking raw. I audibly gasped.
Also it's all even better because you know the Delita is such a well respected leader--he does such a good job positioning himself as such, while Ramza fades away into history.
Also it's all even better because you know the Delita is such a well respected leader--he does such a good job positioning himself as such, while Ramza fades away into history.
I haven't played enough Final Fantasies to give a fully informed answer, but I thought Ardyn in FFXV was fantastic. He's an interesting character with a lot of charisma and a sympathetic backstory.
I'm a big fan of the plot device where the villain is genuinely friendly with the heroes until their differing goals force a sharp break in their truce.
I'm a big fan of the plot device where the villain is genuinely friendly with the heroes until their differing goals force a sharp break in their truce.
Hell no.
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Tough choice between Caius and Ardyn.
Fuck man, Ardyn literally drops plot on a dude at the end of the game, that's some high tier swag.
Fuck man, Ardyn literally drops plot on a dude at the end of the game, that's some high tier swag.
"Yet when your father died, you were off playing with your friends! When your beloved died, you laid there, powerless to stop it! You think 10 years is a long time?! It is NOTHING to me! I have lived in darkness for ages!".
You have all been bamboozled by the sheer villainy of GARLAND
Of course this.
Garland was always to me, personally, just as iconic as the black mage and I'm suprised he's not referenced more in the games or the fandom. GARLAND, motherfuckers.
Yeah, Wiegraf and Argath are both also fab. Some mint lines between them, like this bit from Wiegraf:
Wiegraf from Final Fantasy Tactics.
He did nothing wrong.
Wiegraf: "*chuckle* All such tales of gods and their miracles are false. Those who would lead prefer that history suit their needs, and rewrite it to see that it does. And why shouldn't they? The fault lies not with them. The reeking masses yearn for gods and miracles. It is their opiate, and they consume it greedily. The people do not endeavor towards greatness, but rather mire themselves in their petty strifes - shackles on the feet of man. Their leaders give them no more than that for which they clamor. It is history's oldest and most oft-repeated tale. Do men exploit this weakness to dominate their fellows? Mayhap they do. But they succeed only because the people are eager to know such dominion. Gods are only illusions born of man's fear. It is they who see this charade for what it is and join in the pageantry who are to blame.
Obvious "im gonna be a villain later" but with a splash of poor storytelling to make it worse than ever. Even the fight with him was forgettable.
