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Which remake will score better on Metacritic? Final Fantasy VII or Resident Evil 3? Let's make an avatar bet.
- Thread starter Dusk Golem
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If I was a petty person I would begin to quote some earlier takes on this thread...
But naaah #FFteam let's go!
But naaah #FFteam let's go!
I should have listened to my heart...
Honestly surprised by the Resident Evil 3 scores however, the (almost) complete lack of replay value, the total absence of branching paths and different endings as well as Nemesis turning up during scripted encounters as opposed to being more of an ever-present threat makes for slightly disheartening reading.
Maybe a game to buy and play at Halloween later this year for £20 or something ... 🎃
Honestly surprised by the Resident Evil 3 scores however, the (almost) complete lack of replay value, the total absence of branching paths and different endings as well as Nemesis turning up during scripted encounters as opposed to being more of an ever-present threat makes for slightly disheartening reading.
Maybe a game to buy and play at Halloween later this year for £20 or something ... 🎃
I'll avatar bet you on that...there is no conviction in your words.
FFVII won Best of Show at E3 last year which usually means strong critical reception for the actual release. So good chance it will score higher now.
FF7r would have to be almost nothing but template fetch quests from beginning to end to drop below 80...
One again fools underestimate the power of FF7
Foolishness RE fans(i wanted it to score higher too lol)Foolishness
Foolishness RE fans(i wanted it to score higher too lol)Foolishness
Wanna make another avatar bet on that? Lol, worst case scenario FF VII RE will be an 85
SE is always underestimated.
Ehh. RE3 seemed like a slam dunk after RE2. I didn't see this coming at all.
The difference is Capcom had nothing to prove as RE2ReMake was amazing, unlike SE whos last Final Fantasy had mixed reception unless your name was Ardyn.
Now I'm hoping FF7 turns out well... I'm so excited for it.
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We'll be making avatars and voting later, but it's not over until it's over.
It getting anything other than a 83+ would sour the whole year for me.
After waiting so long yeah, I would feel gutted with a lukewarm reception.
Also, I just checked FFXV average score and it's at 81. I remember it being higher. Still really enjoyed it though.
RE3 is currently a point lower the Final Fantasy XV.
Obviously anything could happen but I'd say things are looking good on Squares end.
Obviously anything could happen but I'd say things are looking good on Squares end.
Yeah, following up a remake of the iconic RE2 was always gonna be a tall task for RE3, but it sounds like Capcom dropped the ball in a couple of key areas. Kinda disappointing. I doubt FF7R goes below 85 unless people really don't like how it cuts off after Midgar.
And based on people like Max seeing things it doesnt,Hurry up April 9th at 11pm!
83 would still be disappointment to me. I need it to feel special like RE2 Remake.
I know I'm listed on the FFVII Remake camp in the OP but there's a caveat - my post was one where I originally said the completed series of games would be received better, but I was expecting RE3make to review better than the first volume because people are going to shit on it not being "the full experience" and issues with endings - do I win a doofy avatar?
I'm willing to pay for my sins. I did not expect RE3make to cut so much, but that makes it instantly clear why a tacked on three-weak peak playerbase multiplayer mode is added with as part of the complete package.
I'm willing to pay for my sins. I did not expect RE3make to cut so much, but that makes it instantly clear why a tacked on three-weak peak playerbase multiplayer mode is added with as part of the complete package.
What was the last mainline Final Fantasy game to get an 85 or higher on initial release? FFXV is sitting at an 81....Lightning Returns is 66.....FFXIII-2 is at 79....FInal Fantasy XIII is at 82. Kingdom Hearts III is at 82.
It seems to me that expecting much higher than a low-80's score is pretty optimistic, given the company's output over the last 10-15 years. Final Fantasy 7 has nostalgia behind it, but that is a pretty doubled-edged sword.....some people might be softer on it, but if things are changed in a way people don't like it they will be much more harsh as well.
XIV.
You're also ignoring the context of how positively received the demo was.
I think how the game is paced, what issues of padding occur, and how the game ends are the three critical pillars that will affect the games reception. The games you mentioned feature at least two of those three pillars being seen in a negative light. In fact, pacing is seen as the consistently criticized space for every game you mentioned there.
VII Remake has to be as linear as Uncharted and have meaningless quests like an MMO to be docked in the low 80s. Nomura's remarks where he had to tell the team to scale back on content seems to create concern of the latter being a possible issue. I think mid-to-high-80s might be where it sits. I thought RE3make was going to be an 81 and be placed there because it was too similar to RE2make, for comparison's sake. I don't see VII Remake Part Uno sitting in the 90s simply because the looming shadow of it not being the full FF story is going to haunt this project until that shadow is replaced with the actual end.
Are expansion packs to the MMOs really considered the "mainline" Final Fantasy series, at this point? It's a different team working on a very different kind of game with different goals in mind.
I generally think the criticisms will surround pacing and bloat -- trying to expand the first 1/3 of FF7's story into a 20-40 hour game doesn't seem like the greatest of ideas. You have to introduce all kinds of new story, character, and setting elements that people may or may not like. You have to invent all kinds of new quests, sidetasks, and fluff. The game is going to have a ton of tapdancing and vamping.....and then it's going to end without remotely having completed the story. Even within a 30 minute demo itself you had complaints and gripes about how things were changed, but that doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of the heavy alterations that will be made over the course of a campaign that is dozens of hours long.
There's also the general issue that JRPGs are somewhat polarizing, and don't lean into a lot of the things that Western critics enjoy......good ones still get recognized, but it's hard for them to claw beyond the 80-90 rating. Persona managed it, but I think it's been a while since anyone else has.
I've spoken about the focus on Midgar in other VII threads, but I think such emphasis on making it a high volume space is it's actually the largest location in the world of FFVII. It's the largest space on the world map, despite you only spending a handful of hours there. I believe the intention of focusing more on it is to help showcase the feeling of it being a central hub of humanity on the planet, as well as playing into older players expectations that this area of the story of FFVII was much larger than it was. It seems even the staff who worked on the OG version didn't realize how small Midgar really was.
Now if they do a good job there, that's the question mark. I think they have no choice but to fire properly for this game, simply because at least two other games depend upon this one keeping players invested.
https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/final-fantasy-xiv-online-a-realm-reborn
I thought you needed some sort of previous version for it to be an "expansion pack?" I'm surprised they let me still play it, that's really nice of Square.
And no you don't get to pull "well tha doesn't count." You said mainline and there's a big ass XIV on the logo.
And yet the majority of impressions are positive and we've got impressions of further into the game that are also positive.
