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Which post-Robin/Robin graduation identity is the best

Which post Robin/Robin graduation identity is the best?

  • Nightwing

    Votes: 172 86.9%

  • Red Hood

    Votes: 18 9.1%

  • Red Robin

    Votes: 8 4.0%
  • Total voters
    198
PhoenixAKG

PhoenixAKG

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Aug 14, 2019
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So most of the people who held the Robin identity have moved on their own identity. Out of all of them which is the best?

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PlanetSmasher

PlanetSmasher

The Abominable Showman
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Oct 25, 2017
115,339
Nightwing wins this one by default because Red Hood is Red Hood and I can't think of Red Robin without thinking of burgers.
 
Lotus

Lotus

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
105,557
Red Robin just makes me think about the restaurant lol
 
jph139

jph139

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Oct 25, 2017
14,361
Objectively it's probably Nightwing but I'm the sort of asshole that votes for Red Hood.

No one should vote for Red Robin, please and thank you.
 
emperor bohe

emperor bohe

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Oct 27, 2017
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Tim Drake is my favourite Robin but Red Robin is probably the worst post-Robin identity of the three lol... maybe with time it'll improve
 

mrmoose

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Nov 13, 2017
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Tavernade said:
Does Stephanie Brown as Batgirl count? Because her.
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Yes, this. One of the biggest casualties of the New 52 relaunch, IMHO, as far as actual comics go.

But otherwise yeah it's Nightwing (or better yet, Batman). I still don't really completely understand why Tim went to "Red Robin' and screw Red Hood.
 
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PhoenixAKG

PhoenixAKG

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Lotus said:
What's her name? Why is it a spoiler? Tell me!
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Stephanie Brown AKA Spoiler. One of the best and under-rated members of the Batfam. For some reason DC hates her (and her relationship with Tim). She was both Robin and Batgirl aside from Spoiler but her time as Robin was pretty bad for her.
 
Aly

Aly

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Oct 27, 2017
12,079
I love Nightwing and Red Hood equally, but Nightwing is slightly more consistent. Tim is just a big fat looooooool. Steph should've stayed Batgirl.
 
KtotheRoc

KtotheRoc

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 27, 2017
56,590
I can see Nightwing is winning quite handedly.

Not the least bit surprised.
 
kmfdmpig

kmfdmpig

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
19,319
Nightwing >> Red Hood >>>>>> Red Robin/Drake/Tim
Nightwing has been around long enough to actually have solid runs (Dixon before he became a POS, and Taylor in particular).
Red Hood has a clear identity different from other Robins and has also had a good run (the recent one with Bizarro and Artemis).
Red Robin/Drake/Tim just kind of exists but doesn't really differentiate from any other Robin.
 
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PhoenixAKG

PhoenixAKG

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Aug 14, 2019
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kmfdmpig said:
Nightwing >> Red Hood >>>>>> Red Robin/Drake/Tim
Nightwing has been around long enough to actually have solid runs (Dixon before he became a POS, and Taylor in particular).
Red Hood has a clear identity different from other Robins and has also had a good run (the recent one with Bizarro and Artemis).
Red Robin/Drake/Tim just kind of exists but doesn't really differentiate from any other Robin.
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Tim's 1993 run was the first time Robin got his own solo series and became a hero in his own right with a cool costume, weapons, etc. He is differentiated from the other Robins as he brought back Batman from the brink of darkness after losing Jason Todd and helped him properly heal from it.
 
SageShinigami

SageShinigami

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Oct 27, 2017
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The answer's Nightwing. It makes sense from a theme perspective, incorporates Superman's influence on Dick, and feels like it's own thing.

Red Hood sucks. Tim Drake is excellent, but the Red Robin identity was a lazy choice. Elevate him by giving him his own identity pls.
 
Tornak

Tornak

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Feb 7, 2018
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Nightwing, no question.

Red Hood is my favourite DC character after Batman, but my man hasn't gotten many great comics (most of his own books have been shit) and DC doesn't know what the fuck to do with him.
 
kmfdmpig

kmfdmpig

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
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PhoenixAKG said:
Tim's 1993 run was the first time Robin got his own solo series and became a hero in his own right with a cool costume, weapons, etc. He is differentiated from the other Robins as he brought back Batman from the brink of darkness after losing Jason Todd and helped him properly heal from it.
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I was on a break from comics at the time but looking back I disliked what I read of that series, which to be fair was not that much. No Man's Land, for example, was an amazing event with almost uniformly good issues but the one that was outright bad was a Robin issue and the other Robin issues tied into it were on the weaker side as well.
 

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It's nightwing. He has transcended being batfamily (though he is still a vital part of it) and is the beacon of the best in the DC universe.
 
Stooge

Stooge

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Red Robin is a milquetoast character and while I generally like Drake as an interesting post-Jason Todd Robin I never have cared about him *at all* since he dropped the Robin name. Him forcing Batman to understand he needed a Robin was always good stuff.

Red Hood is whatever. It was good for one story but Jason Todd as murder man with guns doesn't fit in the bat family and they write him as too much of a gruff hero and not an anti-hero/somtimes villian so he can stay in the bat family. Jason Todd was an ok take on Robin but his death and undeath is just prime edgelord comincs that I don't care for.

Nightwing is the GOAT. His run as Batman is fucking legendary. His run as a teenager in the 80s was legendary. His pre-batman mantle run was amazing. His run as nightwing post batman has been really good. Even the Grayson stuff when he dropped thenightwing name was good. He's an a-tier DC character.

Honestly, him and Wally are two of the most "real" characters in DC history and their very long runs as people living in the shadow of greatness who both eventually have to step out of that shadow and into the spotlight are amazing 30+ year stories.
 
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PhoenixAKG

PhoenixAKG

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Stooge said:
Red Robin is a milquetoast character and while I generally like Drake as an interesting post-Jason Todd Robin I never have cared about him *at all* since he dropped the Robin name. Him forcing Batman to understand he needed a Robin was always good stuff.

Red Hood is whatever. It was good for one story but Jason Todd as murder man with guns doesn't fit in the bat family and they write him as too much of a gruff hero and not an anti-hero/somtimes villian so he can stay in the bat family. Jason Todd was an ok take on Robin but his death and undeath is just prime edgelord comincs that I don't care for.

Nightwing is the GOAT. His run as Batman is fucking legendary. His run as a teenager in the 80s was legendary. His pre-batman mantle run was amazing. His run as nightwing post batman has been really good. Even the Grayson stuff when he dropped thenightwing name was good. He's an a-tier DC character.

Honestly, him and Wally are two of the most "real" characters in DC history and their very long runs as people living in the shadow of greatness who both eventually have to step out of that shadow and into the spotlight are amazing 30+ year stories.
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Any good Grayson runs you would recommend? I'd like to read more of his comics.
 
Volimar

Volimar

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Nightwing was "Fuck Batman" before Titans. They did such a great job showing the ways that Dick tried (and sometimes failed) to not become like Batman. And Bruce was always so ambivalent about it. Like he'd always say he trained Robin so he wouldn't turn out like Bruce, but then often pushed back or just gave nothing when Dick rebelled against Batman-ism. At the same time, there was a begrudging respect even when Dick was at his most resentful.


Also his ass looked great in that costume.
 
lorddarkflare

lorddarkflare

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Oct 25, 2017
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Nightwing. It is so clearly Nightwing that it is not worth talking about.

I do like Red Hood very much though.
 
NoalleGospell

NoalleGospell

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It annoys me to no end that Tim(my fav Robin) has never fully graduated from the Robin identity and at this point I wouldn't be surprised if Damian graduates before him.
 
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