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Which MCU villain/antagonist has the most Black Air Force Energy? (Wakanda Forever Spoilers)
- Thread starter Neoxon
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Ah, thanks, it's not easy as I thought then, I can't decide between some of the ones in the OP 🤔
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Why not just use a normal phrase
Because Black AF1 energy is perfectly descriptive to those in the know. Also complaining about this is some strong "why not just talk like a /normal person/ (read:white)" energy.
I voted for Killmonger cause his " Haaay Auntie" scene is 150% black AF1 energy. But Hela is being slept on.
Voted Thanos because he took out half the universe. I don't think anyone else on the list could bring that level of smoke.
As someone else said Thanos believed he was serving a higher purpose. Not Black AF1 energy. Someone like Hela who just wanted to kill her family fits it way more.
Hela genuinely felt that her father Odin had betrayed her, which, well, he did. Her entire point was that he was just as nasty as she was, raised her to be that way, then tossed her in the trash when it was inconvenient.
Killmonger wanted the most smoke, but Thanos actually got shit done. Osborne was definitely the worse because he went to a new universe and immediately started shit with everyone lol.
Why not just ask what it means instead of invalidating something you don't understand? Or is that too much for you?
Infinity Ultron is the only one who fits that very arbitrary definition provided. The rest value life in their own ways. Well, maybe not Hera, but that feels like cheating to include her.
But I'd also say that half the characters in that roundtable jpg don't fit that definition either. It's pretty hard to tell what the uniting aspect of those characters is supposed to be besides murder.
But I'd also say that half the characters in that roundtable jpg don't fit that definition either. It's pretty hard to tell what the uniting aspect of those characters is supposed to be besides murder.
I voted Hela. She literally just wanted to kill and conquer.
Also technically she wasn't ever defeated either.
Also technically she wasn't ever defeated either.
Tom was like "hey buddy, this is supposed to be a simple MCU fight, you swing, i swing, we throw some quips here and there, whats going on with these pile drivers, kinda going off script aren't we???"man gob was a whole menace, the beatdown that went on in Happy's apartment building is all buddy needed on his resume to win this one
I'm still having such a hard time with this definition. Cause if it's about righteous intent then Hela and Killmonger and even Thanos don't fit. If it's about a don't give a fuck, burn the world down attitude then almost none of these people fit cause they all have some ultimate motivation, twisted as it may be.
Maybe it's just Green Goblin. He just seems to want to fuck people up.
Maybe it's just Green Goblin. He just seems to want to fuck people up.
Call it recency bias, but Green Goblin & Scarlet Witch were just savages. I think Goblin is my pick only because he's been in the game for over 20 years now and didn't skip a beat (lol) in No Way Home.
Not super in the know but based on what I've seen it does sound like Gobby takes it cleanly. Like the dude is one of the most Chaotic Evil motherfuckers in the business, goddamn.
But Wanda at least deserves an honorable mention for coming into MOM having already committed to being That Bitch. Girl put in the fucking work.
But Wanda at least deserves an honorable mention for coming into MOM having already committed to being That Bitch. Girl put in the fucking work.
Goblin and Scarlet easy for me, can't tell them nothing when they get going. Wanda reached peak ignorance in MoM.
Goblin is like saying Joker has black air force energy, they absolutely do but they're so fucking insane it's almost like they don't have a choice but to be the way they are, it hits different when you're more sane but still willingly a menace.
Goblin is like saying Joker has black air force energy, they absolutely do but they're so fucking insane it's almost like they don't have a choice but to be the way they are, it hits different when you're more sane but still willingly a menace.
I get it, Thanos, Ultron, wiping out universes left and right. But they thought they were doing it for a purpose. No panache, no matter how much James Spader can work a scene, no unpredictability that gives em that edge
But MCU got some real contenders here
Gobby made like an entire dynasty outta harassing spider-men; a whole-ass career, 401K and benefits
Wanda & Hela went scorched earth; literally, in one case. Asgard to fiery ruin?, it's people decimated? pftttt, still a throne to sit on. Get custody of the kids? Sure girl, fabric of reality don't mean shit
Killmonger threads the line because he's working his own twisted principle, but he's out there trying to propagate a Wakanda-branded war industry with the cadence of giving the middle finger to someone out the car window after someone cuts him off on the highway. Absolute casual terror.
But MCU got some real contenders here
Gobby made like an entire dynasty outta harassing spider-men; a whole-ass career, 401K and benefits
Wanda & Hela went scorched earth; literally, in one case. Asgard to fiery ruin?, it's people decimated? pftttt, still a throne to sit on. Get custody of the kids? Sure girl, fabric of reality don't mean shit
Killmonger threads the line because he's working his own twisted principle, but he's out there trying to propagate a Wakanda-branded war industry with the cadence of giving the middle finger to someone out the car window after someone cuts him off on the highway. Absolute casual terror.
Like seriously Arn Anderson would be jealous of the spinebuster he gave Peter in No Way Home.
"Poor Peter, too weak to send me home to die"
"No, I'd rather kill you myself"
"Atta boy!"
Peak fucking goon.
"No, I'd rather kill you myself"
"Atta boy!"
Peak fucking goon.
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All Gobby wanted was smoke, no matter what universe he had to go to to get it.
Why am I just now noticing Hela on the poll? Yeah she was a goon too, loved her.
Thanos chilling outside the avengers compound after blowing it up was some goon shit too lol
Wanda is just a straight up demon, but she doesn't give me black air force energy.
GG is the obvious pick, but Infinity Ultron is underrated. He was throwing hands with anyone. He literally jumped out and ran the set with the Watcher just for shits and giggles.
GG is the obvious pick, but Infinity Ultron is underrated. He was throwing hands with anyone. He literally jumped out and ran the set with the Watcher just for shits and giggles.
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But she has a cause.
Green Goblin is the only one out of these choices who doesn't have any deep motivation.
Ok so google tells me what this slang means, but now I really want to know what gave birth to it?
Is it really about some Nike shoes??
Is it really about some Nike shoes??
Kind of, but that's more the inspiration than being about them per say. They have a weird rep of being something a lot of druggies wear or people who only wear them for work, so the only ones wearing them are those who are nuts or about to do the work no one else wants to do. Therefore those who have that energy are nuts, out of their mind, or about to do dirty work no one else wants to do. It's a pretty new term, I think, I've only heard it the last 2 years or so. Not sure where it started, but my guess is Twitter spread it and then popularized on TikTok, like many trends nowadays.
Here's an article sort of about the origin from 2019, so it's at least that old.
How the Black Air Force 1 Became Sneaker Culture's Funniest Meme
The Black Nike Air Force 1 has gone from the hood's most nefarious sneaker to running joke on the Internet.
Do you have a third example?I thought this thread was going to be commentary on how the Marvel keeps using Black characters for their US Air Force propaganda.
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She literally just wanted conquest, she didn't care how it happened.
She was literally confused that anyone wouldn't want that.
It's either Goblin or Killmonger, everyone else feels like a child. I go with Killmonger since Goblin technically came from Raimi.
The biggest one.
DIO straight up threw a dude through the car he was chasing to stop it.
He used policeman like bowling pins.
LIke Neoxon c'mon this man should be it's poster child for raw dgaf energy.
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I would quibble with that. Hela wanted to regain her throne in Asgard which she felt was rightfully hers. And her big beef was with her father Odin, who had raised her to be a conqueror by his side then just tossed her aside. Part of her whole thing is that Odin is a huge hypocrite and a shitty father, which are pretty undeniable.
Of course this gets into the whole thing where we're defending fictional mass murderers.
I like this answer. My vote is still for Killmonger. Dude was a straight G. Watched his dad die, overthrew governments, grew up in the hood, US vet, and walked straight into Wakanda and made the entire kingdom bow to him, and he threw T'Challa in a river. And he did all of this before he took over Wakanda and ate that flower. He did all that with no powers.
Borrowing a phrase from Boondocks, the best way to sum up Black Air Force is:
"It's a beautiful day to fuck shit up."
If your character's motives can't be summed up this way, they aren't in the running.
Gobby, Hela, and, at a stretch, Killmonger.
I didn't watch What If so I can't say about Infinity Ultron.
Scarlet Witch and Thanos were too purpose driven to count.
"It's a beautiful day to fuck shit up."
If your character's motives can't be summed up this way, they aren't in the running.
Gobby, Hela, and, at a stretch, Killmonger.
I didn't watch What If so I can't say about Infinity Ultron.
Scarlet Witch and Thanos were too purpose driven to count.
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Infinity Ultron caught fade throughout his entire universe, then chased smoke against The Watcher because IU ran out of ops in his own universe.