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When Xenoblade Chronicles X is Remastered It Should Have Anime Style Characters Like XC1:DE
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Anime on ERA means whatever you want it to mean. It's a free buzzword.
This. They already looked anime (albiet a different style from XC1DE/2)
The character face models just looked grody and had horrible animations.
Yeah I could not have gotten rid of my wii u faster when reservations for the switch were made available. I now regret it as this title is stuck in there.
I found the faces in XCX to be okay, except that they could look quite off under certain lighting conditions.
No, there was more. For example, the Six Stars series allowed you to have your characters (both men and women) wear a fundoshi in the Japanese version of the game. In the western version, it was changed to look like boxer shorts.
I think the designs in Xeno X could get a touch to make them better, but I really think that Elma looks better in X than in 2, so please give me an evolution of that style.
Not censorship, but the localized version also had less options for voice/personality types of the avatar character. I could understand reducing the number of VAs for budget concerns, but they could just have recorded different personality types with some repeated VAs.
Or add a voice pitch filter lol. I am not very fond of removing contents but if it's just censoring some loli and moe things I understand, boob slider I like not gona. 😀 Maybe they should have gone with custom MC only.
The style was already anime the faces were just terrible. The black haired girl with the horrible face I had in a helmet the whole game. I think Elma actually looked fine. I'm totally ok with them giving the models the XC DE treatment. Everyone looks great in XC DE.
I always though 3 > 2 > 1Xenosaga 2 has great artstyle that mixes pretty well anime with realistic character proportions. I think It's pretty closer to DOA 3 character designs.
It's interesting the progression of art style. Started super stylized, moved to the complete opposite direction, then settled on somewhere inbetween
It's funny because the people that were defending the removal of the bust slider now wish they had one for Pyra.
Yeah, they really nailed the mix for 3. For me my preference was 3 > 1 > 2.
Though I'm sure some of that was adjusting to such a big change for the second game after being so attached to the first. Plus preferring KOS-MOS' designs in 1 (and especially 3's) over 2's.
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Cuz for some reason they wanted tits as big as her giant anime head.
All these years and the complaints about XCX characters and Yet to me Elma looks way more derpy in XC2 at least in this comparisonElma in X2 looks closer to her character art than she does in X...
Also, it's not drastically different. It's just the more flat shaded approach is a better representation of the designs because it's better approximates 2D
(unfortunately couldn't find a better comparison. Elma's face isn't too different. Her eyes are slightly bigger, but it's mostly because she's smiling instead of frowning
Yeah, I couldn't find a pic of her with the same expression
Because different character designer. XC2 was a hodgepodge of different illustrators/character designers. They even managed to inlcude Tetsuya Nomura!Why is Elma's model in XB2 100% better than the actual XB2 characters in their own game?
Every time I look at Rex and Pyra, they remind me of generic MMD models. I can't stand those noses.
That's probably part of the reason why it may be considered difficult and expensive to port it to the Nintendo Switch.
Definitive Edition is an amalgamation between a remaster and a remake. The character models, game textures, lighting and physics were remade but the fundamental framework of the Wii original was remastered.
Kunihiko Tanaka's style was translated pretty badly in Xenoblade Chronicles X. As controversial as it is for me to say this, I could see a completely different character designer for X's inevitable Switch port/remaster. His style works for 2D but doesn't translate all too well for 3D.
Exactly. It wouldn't hurt to be technically correct and just say "cel-shaded".
Definitive Edition is an amalgamation between a remaster and a remake. The character models, game textures, lighting and physics were remade but the fundamental framework of the Wii original was remastered.
Kunihiko Tanaka's style was translated pretty badly in Xenoblade Chronicles X. As controversial as it is for me to say this, I could see a completely different character designer for X's inevitable Switch port/remaster. His style works for 2D but doesn't translate all too well for 3D.
Exactly. It wouldn't hurt to be technically correct and just say "cel-shaded".
Tanaka isn't at Monolith Soft any more, which is probably why Xenoblade's characters were given design overhauls for DE. The same could happen for X, yeah. (Although, honestly, I'd prefer they just spruce the models up and stick to the original designs by Tanaka.)
Pretty much the only face that looked weird to me was Lin's and given the shown examples are exclusively her I don't think there really needs to much to be changed.
I think it mainly comes down to engine. In XBX everything's "baked", forward lit and with no real physics/collision. It looks fantastic but it's down to pure artistry, the underlying technology is incredibly simple and "last gen" which probably helps with rendering the immense scale of it's world. XB2 (and by extension XBDE) went the opposite direction with complex physics/collision, deferred rendering, heavy use of material shaders, light bounce, etc. The tradeoff here is fidelity though with the heavy dynamic resolution scaling. The XB2 engine would be a poor fit for XBX as is (aka: it'd generally look worse than the Wii U version) and other option of direct porting the old outdated engine to Switch is more likely why it'd be more/too expensive for just a port.
I think it'll happen for Switch 2. Or if a Switch (New/Pro/etc) revision can hold the rez scaler high enough in the current XB2 based engine (say 540-720p undocked) to make the port more serviceable visually. They're not porting the old engine though no.
The 3DS version of XC1 is awful. XCDE is such a vast QoL improvement over the original that even bringing up the 3DS version is laughable. Remaking the best game in the series and leaving the remake of the inferior side sequel for later was the smart move.
Hey, it's the head of the deserving police. You don't deserve to post here.
I LOVE X, but I gotta agree, the character designs are wonky-wonky.
I agree that Lin looks the worst but we need justice for Lao. His design versus his model is a real you versus the guy she told you not to worry about situation.
I hope not. Chronicles X in general is closer to the Xenosaga series in terms of aesthetic and X is completely unrelated to mainline Chronicles, I believe.
Irina's face looks fine but yeah Gwin's looks odd. XBX's faces weren't perfect but they never bothered me all that much.I'm not sure I can agree with that.
They both look awful. Elma is one of the few faces that actually looked good in X
This is Elma's concept art in XCX. I really think XCX was always going for an anime style in general (Tanaka character designs, sci-fi mech setting, Sawano music)
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Basically, this. Lin looked weird for example because she had huge irises, so you can't say that's not anime.
Anyways, I prefer the original Elma to the XBC2 one. I'm sure they can improve the renders while keeping a good artstyle that doesn't deviate too much from the original characters. I already disliked how they changed Sharla too much on XBCDE, so I wouldn't want that to happen to everyone in XCX.
If there's something that Xenoblade X should really fix (and won't) is the disparity between armors for each gender.
This is supposed to be the same gear iirc:
Oh, god. They look like hedgehogs. I really don't understand why the nose-less style has become so prevalent for non-chibi artstyles.Why is Elma's model in XB2 100% better than the actual XB2 characters in their own game?
Every time I look at Rex and Pyra, they remind me of generic MMD models. I can't stand those noses.
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I don't get it. Is Xenoblade X not anime enough?
What OP wants is probably not more anime, but more colors. It's a bit desaturated, I'd agree on that.
What OP wants is probably not more anime, but more colors. It's a bit desaturated, I'd agree on that.
I think part of it is just how the characters are rendered. Their eyes in particular have a glass-like quality to them that's really off-putting.
iirc you change their arms and legs as equipment since the very start, which left me in shock once I noticed... so the reveal kinda made sense, but also left me wondering how they couldn't notice when they were literally expending money to buy new limbs from companies they funded.
Only if they actually add a plot worth a damn this time. Otherwise, it's MonolithSoft's worst title and the only thing we're losing from it is the best soundtrack in the Xeno series. Keep it on the Wii U.