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When will we see the remaining FF7R party members?
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This is kind of what I suspect. Nomura has a penchant for that sort of thing. I wouldn't be surprised if the opening of the game is some kind of "re-do" of the first mission, but with Zack instead of Cloud. Eventually you'd catch up with the main party, of course.
They started full production on part two around November last year.
Absolutely. Just depends on when SE wants to do that story since they have the freedom to do what they want.
I mostly think Vincet will be in part 3 because I feel he'll need the most fleshing out especially if they go into this backstory but i could definitely see Cid being part 3 as well.
They wouldn't dare waste players' time with that. Part 2 cannot start in Midgar "but hey guys it's different 'cuz Zack!", it would be the worst possible way to do it.
I am 95% confident we wont have the full party together in the next game. Which fucking sucks and I'll probably stop caring about any more games in the series cause I dont want to wait 10 years to play as Cid or Yuffie.
Luckily, the one concrete thing Kitase and Nomura have been saying about part 2 is that, since they don't have to build it from the ground up like they did with VIIR, it won't take as long to finish. Obviously those are just words, but I'm optimistic.
We can hope – I'm certainly not advocating for it. If you'd told me a month ago that they were going to split the timeline like this, I would've laughed in your face.
I don't expect things to just pick up at Kalm, though.
I don't expect things to just pick up at Kalm, though.
Exactly. It's no less ridiculous than Cloud dancing in a nightclub and fighting a weaponized house tbh.
I don't understand why people still think the sillier stuff is gonna get cut, this one game should've put all those worries to rest.
I think Part 2 will open in the Nibelheim flashback, basically a tutorial for the five people who bought part 2 without playing Part 1, and cut to Kalm afterwards.
That would be a nightmare.
I won't rest easy until I know that Cait Sith is fully playable in his Cat & Moogle form.
I thought about that, but they are probably going to make us go back there for the Zack flashback at some point.
I'm all in for Vincent in the next game, but I wouldn't put it past them to leave him for later, or even rearrange how you meet him entirely. His backstory is tied to some of the biggest plot threads in the game (which is funny, because he was optional in the original... along with the Zack flashbacks)
Right, but the Zack flashback doesn't happen WHILE YOU'RE THERE, it happens in Mideel. I just don't see any logical reason to make the player literally walk right past Vincent and not recruit him. They can just dole out his plot slowly, similar to how Red is in this one for like four hours and most of his story will be in Part 2.
Yeah you can push Yuffie back but I don't see how you push Vincent back past your first visit to Nibelheim
Thinking we'll see most if not all of the remaining party members in FF7R-2. Could see a specific character or two be pushed to part 3 though.
But being real, who knows. With this story becoming it's own thing, Square has the power to bring in any character wherever and whenever. It will be very interesting to see, but I'm pretty confident most of them will be incorporated into the next game.
Also worth noting - I don't expect Vincent or Yuffie being optional this time around. Square will probably take this opportunity to flesh out their characters and stories, which will be incorporated into the story in some way or form.
But being real, who knows. With this story becoming it's own thing, Square has the power to bring in any character wherever and whenever. It will be very interesting to see, but I'm pretty confident most of them will be incorporated into the next game.
Also worth noting - I don't expect Vincent or Yuffie being optional this time around. Square will probably take this opportunity to flesh out their characters and stories, which will be incorporated into the story in some way or form.
I was talking about the second one, the optional one where you do have to go back there.
I'm just imagining a worst case scenario where Vincent becomes playable as late in the game as possible. I think he's going to be the hardest one to reimagine into this new playstyle.
I will gladly be proven wrong, though.
I think they'll kind of follow the way Vincent functions in crossover games and make him a specialist in elemental damage. Special elemental shots aimed at taking advantage of specific elemental weaknesses. And then his transformations can be his limit breaks so they don't have to program like 9 of them.
I assume one of the big reasons why they're going in the direction that they are is to even out the content between the next two games. Following the OG game they'd have to make nearly all of the games locations, assets, enemies, characters, etc in the next game, and just reuse everything in game 3 with nothing new except cutscenes.
I assume they'll give us 2 or 3 in the next game, and 2 or 3 in the game after that, same with locations.
I assume they'll give us 2 or 3 in the next game, and 2 or 3 in the game after that, same with locations.
I feel like they wouldn't have bothered teasing him in this installment if they planned to keep him an NPC. Cait doesn't offer much of anything if he's NOT playable in battle.
Remember, the only reason Cait had very little presence in Advent Children was that they just couldn't get the fur tech for the moogle doll working right.
But that's exactly that. They set him up as story-relevant this time around. I'm sure he'll feed them with vital information or give them access to something. He's clearly established this time around to be a "good guy" from the beginning.
I could see there being gameplay reasons to staggering some character additions. I imagine they're probably still figuring out how each character plays and don't want too much redundancy all at once.
They had a pretty good spread with four characters, but even then some people still think Tifa is just shorter-range Cloud. That problem becomes twice as hard with the rest of the cast coming in.
They had a pretty good spread with four characters, but even then some people still think Tifa is just shorter-range Cloud. That problem becomes twice as hard with the rest of the cast coming in.
Part 2: Red, Cait Sith, and Vincent
Part 3: Cid and Yuffie
Part 3: Cid and Yuffie
with playable Zack Section in Part 3
Not too sure who these "people" are, but just because someone thinks it doesn't make it accurate. Tifa is a combo heavy character while Cloud is a stance changer. Pretty drastically different playstyles, and I don't see them having trouble adding 2-3 new characters per additional part.
Cait Sith, Red XIII, and Vincent will join. Sephiroth will be playable during the flashback. Unless they rebalance combat another ranged character will be necessary.
Folding money.
Folding money.
Literally just came from the OT where I saw posts saying it.
I know she's different, teaching people characters are different is a harder endeavor.
Even at the time having party members like Red XIII and Cait Sith was fucking bonkers. They would never have anything like that in modern day FF. I wonder if they curse themselves for that design choice back in '96 because I'm pretty sure non-humanoid creatures are typically a lot harder to animate.
I mean...Red XIII is already a combat party member in Part 1 and he looks great.
Wouldn't most of Red's animations be done considering he's an active participant in the battles in FFVIIR, just not controllable?
I mean, I don't think they've designed all his systems as of that game's development, but I doubt animation is holding them back.
That and I'm pretty sure they've already started on Remake 2 before FF7R even came out.
By that I meant of the millions of people playing the game the people that think that are too small to even matter. There's some people that think Aerith is useless but that's clearly far from the case.
It just seemed like a weird hang up to appeal to people who think clearly distinct characters are anything but that when they've done a really good job in that area to most people. And like I said, we're only talking about adding 2-3 characters, so hardly the point for lack of differentiation to be a concern.
That would be amazing because I could not buy her and never have to put up with her. Please do that, Square.
They'll likely split them between games, so characters will get pushed back. Yuffie could easily be pushed to come in a later Wutai arc, and Cid could be similar to Red XIII in part 1 and just be a guest.
They could also
They could also
have Zack and even Sephiroth be playable.
people saying no cait sith remind me of all people saying that there wouldn't be honeybee inn, and no way would any of the silliness of the original be kept in or fit the new graphics.
What I feel like they could do is make Red playable, fully Introduce Cait Sith in the Golden Saucer after some more Reeve screentime, have Yuffie tied with a Wutai subplot to give them a greater spotlight to ally with them over the course of Part 2 (since they were mentioned so heavily).
They could introduce VIncent and Cid in the sequel, but I have the feeling that Zack will have a bigger role in the sequel and they may save them for the game after that. Vincent would make the most sense to include because he's literally just in the Shinra Mansion, and I want mah edgelord. But Zack could have a Roxas style cold-opening with him meeting up later, or maybe he takes over the party at some point. It'd be weird having an echo fighter of Cloud though, but it would hint that they fight similarly hinting a connection between their fighting styles ( a good thematic touch).
I'm so excited to play as all of them, everyone in Remake plays like a dream.
They could introduce VIncent and Cid in the sequel, but I have the feeling that Zack will have a bigger role in the sequel and they may save them for the game after that. Vincent would make the most sense to include because he's literally just in the Shinra Mansion, and I want mah edgelord. But Zack could have a Roxas style cold-opening with him meeting up later, or maybe he takes over the party at some point. It'd be weird having an echo fighter of Cloud though, but it would hint that they fight similarly hinting a connection between their fighting styles ( a good thematic touch).
I'm so excited to play as all of them, everyone in Remake plays like a dream.
I'm very interested in how they'll handle Vincent, they gave the man his own full game spinoff, I imagine he'll get tons of content in the remakes.
I hope they are, because I would love to skip over both of them or at least Yuffie
