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When will Marvel undo the stupid retcon of Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch not being Magneto's children?
- Thread starter PhoenixAKG
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Honestly they always felt like they were more a part of the Avengers side of things then the X-Men so I don't hate it too much. Like they fuck off from the Brotherhood to join the Avengers in the 60s and that's just where they stay for the most part
It's interesting because Hickman more or less got the keys to do whatever he wanted with the X-books and he doubled down on effectively making Wanda the Devil of the new mutant religion.
I dunno, maybe this is all building up for a swerve that it gets revealed that she is a mutant again and Magneto's biological daughter to expose part of the sham they've created.
I dunno, maybe this is all building up for a swerve that it gets revealed that she is a mutant again and Magneto's biological daughter to expose part of the sham they've created.
For people reading the new X-Men books
Well you said what I said without the spoiler lol, but yes I think (hope?) that's what Hickman is building up to. That would make it the most interesting thing and why she's constantly being brought up.
I think it'll actually be more interesting if they retcon her back to being a mutant and Magneto's daughter. In one of the recent books, Magneto called her "The Pretender" and seemed to hesitate. Mutants in Krakoa currently hate her. How will that dynamic play out if she is, indeed, a mutant and the daughter to one of the key members of the council?
Well you said what I said without the spoiler lol, but yes I think (hope?) that's what Hickman is building up to. That would make it the most interesting thing and why she's constantly being brought up.
Honestly I feel like a happy medium is I'd like them to be Magneto's biological kids, but neither were born with the X-Gene. And Mags being the mutant supremacist that he is, disowned them. And then they got experimented on and given powers by the High Evolutionary.
Why isnt Doom on this list, he's the one who helped her go nutsThe Krakoans hate her for obvious reasons:
Funny how many cyborgs are on that listThe Krakoans hate her for obvious reasons:
Okay that's better...I mean obviously in-universe there's a lot of reason to hate her. Then again I hated that original storyline and they barely do shit with it besides drag the Scarlet Witch down for it when they decide to bother even writing her. They should just retcon that shit since it ruined X-Men books for years anyway lol. It's not like she had a lot of agency in the whole thing. But now it's been too long and House of M is regarded as a classic for some reason.
It's probably easier to just pin it on one person. If you go by the current continuity that Scarlet Witch isn't a mutant and isn't Magneto's kid, then you could reasonably say that it was Magneto's fault for telling her that she was a mutant in the first place and then later on telling her he was her dad and dragging her along for all the (non-Chthon) nonsense in her life that set her off.
Hopefully never. Mutants haven't existed in the MCU for thirteen years. Trying to shoe horn them in as Magneto's children would just be dumb at this point.
Edit: I just reread the OPs post again. They aren't Magneto's kids in the comics now? Ok that is dumb. I thought you were talking MCU.
Edit: I just reread the OPs post again. They aren't Magneto's kids in the comics now? Ok that is dumb. I thought you were talking MCU.
You may want to reword the OP or even ask a mod to change the title, because for anyone not up to date on the comics (which would be most people, including myself), it seems like you're asking the MCU to add Magneto as their father. I had no clue this was an actual retcon in the comics until I read the edit to the above post.
Didn't Doom tell people to stop laying their failures at his feet?
Because it's always his fault and he doesn't want to be punished
lmao at Magneto being the only one who properly dressed for the dinner partyThe fact because of this retcon we couldn't get this in WandaVision makes me extra salty:
Beast is lying/sMagneto is looking to make amends.
Beast too......
Hopefully. Given that Wandavision is supposed to tie into Dr. Strange's sequel, I'm half-expecting the door to all kinds of mutant fuckery to be opened.
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Tell that to this X-Men cult :P
Due to time/money I'm not constantly up to date with comics and I definitely haven't followed Marvel for a good 2-3 years. But from memory characters either blame Doom or blame Wanda when writers want extra drama. For sure it's been an albatross around her throat since House of M. While, again, characters in universe got good reason to have beef, I thought the whole thing was rubbish and I yearn for the day Marvel can just fucking move on from it and also write Scarlet Witch decently with memorable things to do.
Magneto is looking to make amends.
Beast too......
Given how she's their boogyman, he probably just wants her to fly around Krakoa and fire off some lights in the sky and tell all the kids that if they don't brush their teeth and go to bed on time, she'll eat them up and/or depower them.
Every time I read a Slayven comment I remember being young and reading spiderman comics, and the weirdest thing was the kane clone saga, boy was I really, really naive
Tbf old school Magneto was a pervSome readers: "This retcon makes their previous relationship make no sense!"
Me, who read the original retcon:
*shiver*
Some readers: "This retcon makes their previous relationship make no sense!"
Me, who read the original retcon:
*shiver*
I expected to see Jean dancing in front of Xavier as well.
I like that Strange is torn between being concerned about Magneto and enjoying his cup of tea.The fact because of this retcon we couldn't get this in WandaVision makes me extra salty:
Charles Xavier told him this after Franklin used the Forever Gate, which is connected to every alternate reality as well as every location and time.
His sister had just used it and basically where she went she experienced the worst possible version of where she wanted to go.
It seems an easy setup that they both walked into alternate realities where they encountered the worst possible version of what they wanted.
Given some set up form the most recent F4 issue that would surprise me.
Beast is just trying to get her to break her nose like Kate did.Magneto is looking to make amends.
Beast too......
It feels like you'd need to retcon the MCU for that to happen and I'd rather they not shoehorn Magneto in there.
I know that's probably just the name of a super villain but now I just imagine the mascot of a cleaning product as one of the X-Men's enemies.The Krakoans hate her for obvious reasons:
Every time they bring it up, more and more signs make me think that Hickman is going to roll this back. Every time this shit is mentioned around Magneto, he looks sad as shit.I prefer Wanda and Pietro being Magneto's children but if they retconned it back, they'd have to stop calling her The Pretender. And that makes me laugh every time I see it.
There's a plan there, probably even moreso that Dan Slott stole Franklin away because he doesn't like to share toys.
Beast is being a shady piece of shit, he's not trying to make amends.Magneto is looking to make amends.
Beast too......
Even though it was a random ass shift that a lot of people hate, it's a shift that absolutely makes sense to me. The idea came from Bendis, but homie did spend time working with Dark Beast, and as stressed out as Beast has become over the last good chunk of time, him becoming an absolute dick and not even realizing it is something I'd buy.
You know you fucked up when the Watcher shows up and talks to you instead of watching.
I thought it was a jarring change, until I read the Endangered Species story which had Beast and Dark Beast in.
Now I can see what started him on his destructively dark path.
The fact because of this retcon we couldn't get this in WandaVision makes me extra salty:
that is a terrible fit. No wonder his helmet looks so dumb.
And he's essentially been in a negative headspace before and since. Being turned into a cat is really where the questionable choices started for him. Joining the Illuminati was just as bad for him.
Don't hate on the helmet.