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Spoit

Member
Oct 28, 2017
3,987
All the Jira mentions. Bad memories. I'd rather use a barely-maintained Gitlab than Jira.
Honestly, gitlabs pm told are pretty got least for smaller teams. Even though it lacks the automation features of GitHub, moving stuff around is much faster and more intuitive.

Of course, I'd rather use fucking sticky notes than jira
 

finalflame

Product Management
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,538
When I used to work with loc, memoQ seemed the way to go.
Yah we moved to memoQ while I was at my last joint and it was solid. I still remember the memoQ folks making a Half Life 3 joke during a trial period checkup call.. nobody in the room laughed :p

Surprisingly, steam translation server wasn't too bad to work on despite being around forever.

my fave to work on during my time in loc was Transifex.
 

FaceHugger

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
13,949
USA
Honestly, gitlabs pm told are pretty got least for smaller teams. Even though it lacks the automation features of GitHub, moving stuff around is much faster and more intuitive.

Of course, I'd rather use fucking sticky notes than jira

Yea, GitLab is fine for our (performs a quick estimation in his head) eleven engineers that have to maintain code. Perfectly fine, gets the job done. A few long standing bugs but what free open source software doesn't suffer from that problem?

The last time I used Jira was for an old side-contract gig, maybe 2014 or 2015. I was glad to never have to look at it again when I deposited the last check from that job.
 

exodus

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,949
Meh, I find JIRA just fine. Most of the issues stem from badly set up projects. It's pretty extensible, but the person who sets up the projects needs to know what they're doing. You're at their mercy.

I do find the cloud version quite slow though.
 

Lagspike_exe

Banned
Dec 15, 2017
1,974
Normal SAS, or Enterprise Guide?
What would you improve?
I think I would add templates or a brief tutorial for what I'm trying to do if I can't remember the exact code.

We've been using it for video meetings mostly since COVID-19 started, I like how it's well integrated with outlook. I think it's useful.

Normal SAS. The syntax itself is not inutitive to me. I've learnt both SAS and STATA from scratch in a similar timeframe and I've become much more efficient with STATA so I use it primarily even though SAS does have some neat features, like being able to connect to mainframes and pull data directly from them and things like the Levenshtein edit distance commands which are very useful and certain (although rare) circumstances.
 

yogurt

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,838
We got any musicians on here?

MakeMusic Finale.

Doesn't matter which version, they're all the same. Everything about it is outdated. The audio output sucks. The rendering engine sucks. The interface REALLY sucks. It's 25 years of legacy baggage stapled together. Why is inserting measures at the end of the piece in a completely different menu than inserting measures in the middle?

But it's also powerful software and is the industry standard, so they have no reason to fix it. Sigh.

IBM Doors.

"Regularly" is kinda generous but that is AWFUL. Why does all IBM software have a tendency to suck so, so bad?
I have a friend who works at IBM, and he literally told me "I don't understand why anyone uses our software."

He says his best guess is it's just long contracts with big companies that have been grandfathered in for years and don't want to jump ship to something better.
 

Stinkles

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
20,459

I remember arguing with an adult human that you couldn't simply drag and drop songs to your iPod once and they insisted you could till they turned purple with apoplepsy. I thought maybe I had missed an update and said, "I thought you had to make a playlist and then copy the playlist to the device "

he said "yeah, you just drag and drop a playlist it's the same thing!"

like people who say using GIMP is identical to photoshop.
 

Trisc

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,488
The Oculus Launcher is a pain in the butt to use both with VR and without. I really wish my Rift S could just run SteamVR natively instead of through the Oculus API. Then I wouldn't have to deal with their crappy software.
 

AppleKid

Member
Feb 21, 2018
2,529
Glad to see so many Jira mentions in here. Admin-side especially is atrocious, with all sorts of different ways for organizing and displaying information. Every drop-down in admin is basically flipping a coin for whether it will be sorted alphabetically.

I think my favorite screen is this:
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Multiple counterintuitive ways to organize a list slapped together. And YES, other parts of admin do let you drag and drop items (but not this one of course).

Jira can definitely be a great tool once you configure it, but even at its best there will always be some head-scratchers. It's insane the amount of things you try to find a solution to only to find a thread from 3+ years ago that is continuously being bumped requesting updates from Atlassian.

I've heard good things about Clubhouse but haven't tried it yet sadly
 

reKon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,736
For my work, Sharepoint and Skype have been pretty awful. We moved from Skype to teams though. I actually preferred some of the individual messaging on skype, but it the peformance on the app was awful and teams has been 200% better in that aspect.
 

Metal Slugger

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,424
St. Cloud, MN
Zune is the oldest but it's still intuitive after all these years.

Probably Sizimi Game Catalog for keeping track of my game collection. It's fiddly but I like it.
 

Kurita

Member
Oct 26, 2017
12,738
La France
I use Spotify on iPhone when I want to share stuff/playlists with more people, but the app is pretty terrible.
Dunno if these essential features are locked behind Premium, but : can't modify the order of the songs in the playlist, can't modify the cover, can't modify the description. Browsing is also clunky : unless I'm missing something, you can't just look up an album and put songs directly from the album page in a playlist? Always have to look up the individual song to get the "Add to playlist" button.

I don't know how the average Spotify user uses the app, but I feel like it's not intuitive at all the second you want to do more than just listening to automated playlists.

Apple Music is just way simpler (with more options), and their front page with new releases etc... is not as messy as Spotify's.
 
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BeeDog

Member
Oct 26, 2017
4,556
BMC Remedy, Adobe AEM (pre-Touch version I guess) and ESPECIALLY Oracle e-Business Suite have given me ulcers. I get traumas seeing screenshots of the last one nowadays.

in the music world, REAPER. All that sub-menu hunting fucking blows.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,789
Jira's is okay but literally everyone fucks up configuring it because it's geared toward bureaucracy. My old company made pretty good use of it. I'd prefer that setup over Trello or Github issues which we use to get around the clusterfuck my current one has.

Service Now (ticket dispatch system that turned into run your whole company system) is by far the worst piece of shit I've ever seen. It does everything and all of it terribly. Pretty much any business software is a damn mess because once they have a contract with you they don't have to give a fuck and configurability is a UI liability.
 

Asklepios

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,505
United Kingdom
Gonna get some hate but for me it's Anki. It's free, open source and life saving. But after using it for years I still can't figure out certain things.
 

NESpowerhouse

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,675
Virginia
The Contacts management system at my job. It's all made in house by someone who does not know how to design software (the CEO)

Also if there's anybody out there that use any of our software, I'm so sorry. Most people in the company know it's shit, but the CEO just keeps dragging his feet.
 
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Rellodex

Member
Oct 29, 2017
2,164

I was waiting for this. Once you figure out how to do what you want it works pretty damn consistently, but good luck figuring much of anything out without someone walking you through it. And as far as I can tell it's search function is essentially worthless. If I want to find vendor codes I have more luck using the city they are headquartered in as the search criteria than the actual name of the company itself.

Also I interact with like 10 different industrial HMIs at work that are all sub-Sim City in quality and clarity of information. There have been a bunch of efforts to improve them, and some legitimate success, but of course the loudest voices in the room hate any kind of change so the general perception is that the engineers/software guys are wasting their time
 

Doom

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,817
New Jersey
Interesting! Would love to hear what you dislike about it?
I personally don't mind it too much, but it's the MDM I learned with (well, Airwatch, but that's a different story) so my experience with it is a little biased I would think.

I consider it extremely unintuitive because of the general lack of skill most users of it seem to have. I work for a company that does a lot of work with various MDM's, and every time I get a client with WS1 I know I'm in for a headache. Luckily I know it very well, but I find I spend more time dumping WS1 knowledge to people than I do knowledge about my own product.

To slim down the general criticisms I'd have; The interface is messy and hard to navigate. Training is non existent outside of an extremely expensive 1 week class, where they don't teach much useful knowledge at all. Support is slow and typically helpless, ESPECIALLY for on-prem customers. There are no standardized "best practices" for building out environments. There are too many ways to accomplish the same task. Every single integration done within the console is a total nightmare, and documentation is either non existent, outdated, hard to find, or difficult to follow.
 

Senator Rains

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,340
Microsoft Office apps, especially Excel and Word. If you have people and universities offering dedicated courses to teach people how to use your product, you failed.

Also, Discord and Reddit are so goddamn annoying to use. Yeah I get the whole nerdporn "internet power" interface but goddamn just modernize it a bit so I don't get crazy looking for something.
 

FaceHugger

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
13,949
USA
VMWare WorkSpace One for sure

Pretty much all of the newer VMware clients suck. The HTML 5 vSphere is worse than the deprecated Flex, which was far worse than the old thick client. I do most of my work through PowerCLI now. Just have a bunch of saved statements and scripts I reuse. Much faster than trying to use the HTML 5 client for large amounts of operations.

The Horizon / RDS / VDI clients suck and lack the most basic functionalities - and they're dogshit slow. They also don't support a whole lot via PowerCLI / VMware snap-ins.
 

Deleted member 8468

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 26, 2017
9,109
The in-car touchscreen interface in my 2016 Subaru Outback. It's slow, sometimes non-responsive while navigating, and has a super shiny coating over the whole panel that blinds you from the screen with even the slightest glare. On more than one occasion I've had the whole system crash while driving, and while I could still drive I needed to restart the engine to reboot it.

The very next year they transitioned to a different manufacturer with a much better touch interface with android auto compatibility. I got to use a newer model for a couple days when mine was being serviced as a rental and it was great, as if the dealership is just teasing me with functional software for my car.
 

Book One

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,819
Microsoft Office apps, especially Excel and Word. If you have people and universities offering dedicated courses to teach people how to use your product, you failed.

what's the comparison when it comes to word processing and spreadsheets though? I've tried the free stuff over the years, along with Word and Google Docs, and all of them seem to cover the same ground and would probably be teaching people the same kind of stuff in classes
 

Serebii

Serebii.net Webmaster
Verified
Oct 24, 2017
13,125
Honestly.

Photoshop.

I find more intuitive and logical usage in Paint Shop Pro, both PSP7 and X5 while I just can't do, or easily do, some of the more common things I do within Photoshop
 

Midgarian

Alt Account
Banned
Apr 16, 2020
2,619
Midgar
I'm free of iTunes thank fuck. But I still use it when helping family and friends.

Every single time I use that piece of shit program I do it with the fear and anxiety of deleting content from the device accidentally.

I'm a freaking Computer Literate SUPER GEEK and I feel like everything is about to wrong every time I use that program.

For me, probably Skype, although I use it less and less these days.
That fucking update that changed it from looking like a normal program to looking like some Windows 10 app/mobile app PIECE OF CRAP.

At first it was ok because I was forcing old Skype then the cunts made it so none of the workarounds work.
 

RivalCore

Member
Oct 28, 2017
521
We use Sakai for our online classroom management and it's absolute, archaic garbage. No modern feature set, no mobile or tablet version, tiny file size allowance...ugh, it's so bad.

We're finally moving over to Teams in September so that won't be as bad. No perfect, but at least you can post a video link!
 

ivantod

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,494
Also Microsoft Word. I've been using it since the 1980s, and I'll come close to a nervous breakdown trying to slightly alter the way things are laid out on the page.
Let me give you a piece of advice which might help on this. Push the button which allows you to see the invisible characters on screen such as tabs etc. This will also allow you to see the paragraph marks at the end of each paragraph. The secret is that these marks actually also "hold" the formatting information on paragraph level for that particular paragraph; but now that they are visible, when you're selecting text, you can more easily see if they are included in the selection or not. Not including them while selecting text will make a lot of formatting problems which happen on copy/paste in Word simply disappear.

As for me, the most annoying piece of software has got to be Jira. I liteally do not understand how this is even possible. They keep fiddling with the UI, but they just end up moving the (numerous) problems around without ever really properly solving them. This has been going on for years (decades?) and I just don't get it. How is it not possible for them to get an UX expert in and just finally all the various usability issues that this software has had pretty much from the beginning. Like, I have to bookmark various pages because I'm not sure I'll be able to easily figure again how to get to a particular page that shows the view that I want.

Also:

 

Midramble

Force of Habit
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
10,461
San Francisco
JIRA is baaad, but it's just the tip of the iceberg. Userware (user built hacky stuff the entire company runs on) has shaved years off my life.
 

vhyn

Member
Nov 13, 2017
128
is there an alternative
3Dcoat is pretty good. I found it much easier to use

It's on steam
store.steampowered.com

3DCoat 4.9 on Steam

3D-Coat is the one application that has all the tools you need to take your 3D idea from a block of digital clay all the way to a production.

It's by far the most backwards software I ever used, but I'm also not looking forward to the day they make major changes forcing us to re-learn everything.
There's however nothing that really can compete right now. While handy for texturing and retopo, 3D Coat is a bit of a joke for sculpting - Blender is closing in fast but it's still Blender and just not as performant (and unintuitive too).