Horizon was in-engine. Obviously not gameplay at a different angle like some are believing, but not GCI either like you seem to believe. I have faith in GG that they can match or come close to the trailer on PS5. Just like I think Turn10 can match or come close to their FM trailer.
Nah. Show me a game looking as good as FM for next gen on PS4 or Xbox One.
I have to disagree to be honest, Horizon was all cutscene material and there's a reason for that. Ratchet has the best graphics of gameplay that we've seen so far but all these games are heavy in development and things will improve very quickly. As far as realtime graphics are concerned (in engine or not) and it's debatable if this fidelity will be achieved. Hellblade 2 has by far the best graphics seen so far, Forza had much better graphics than Gran Turismo as well. Thing is you can't cherry pick certain games from one side while leaving out others from the other side.
The Hellblade 2 trailer legitimately doesn't count for this discussion. It was a render that an outsourced studio did in Unreal Engine.
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After Halo: Infinite, I really wouldn't bet on any inengine representations.
None of the 1st party titles Sony showed were CGI. Where is this belief coming from? I remember when people were calling HFW unimpressive or barely distinguishable from the first game, and now all of a sudden it's CGI? Come on.
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What? It was gameplay, not cut scene.
Some scenes in the trailer shows that it's in-game, like that orange thing here (you should watch the video to see that better):
Ninja Theory led and artistically guided the creation of the new cinematic to deliver unprecedented levels of visual and performance detail for Senua—one of the most impactful and authentic digital humans ever made. Senua's 4D data derived character now comes with further upgraded neck deformations and tongue kinetics capable of conveying Melina's impressive and engaging performance.
A render done in Unreal is not real-time graphics of the game engine it will actually be running on.
After Halo Infinite? what does that mean? Are you saying that is the best Series X can produce graphically? Also I'm I am not sure at all they can get graphics of that level but leave Horizon out as well then because there was no gameplay there either.
So you think in was pre-rendered? Even after the quote about creating the most lifelike human? It's either real-time or it's pre-rendered so which is it?
It was a prerendered cinematic using a real time engine (Unreal). You can find a lot of videos online that do the same thing with Unreal. Instead of using an offline renderer (like Maya) they use a real time engine.
Halo Infinite was announced with inengine trailers and no statement was given where the shown image was captured from. The downgrade is huge. Halo is also just the recent example.
That looks really good, although with racing games I'm always sceptical until I see in game footage. GT Sport looks utterly amazing in replays - but visually, it takes a hit gameplay. This has also been the case for every GT/Forza trailer released.Nah. Show me a game looking as good as FM for next gen on PS4 or Xbox One.
FM7 vs FM
GTS vs FM
Hi, so if it's per-rendered isn't the level of detail attainable far beyond a real-time demo? Alex from DF said this, For example, the depth of field effect in the trailer has standard problems we find in current-gen implementations of the effect, such as halos around certain objects. Similarly, tiny strands of Senua's hair pop and fizzle around the depth of field - something that wouldn't happen with super-sampling or a pure CG render.
Not exactly that it "looked" better, but that the standard of quality achieved was still extremely high when you accounted for the fact that it was targetting 60fps. And I'm personally more impressed by good visuals when they are also high performance since the temporal resolution is so much higher.
I don't think that's the case with Hellblade 2 trailer. Even though they are both using Unreal I don't believe that rendered trailer is sharing the same pipeline Senua is using to develop the game. I could be wrong. But that's the impression I get.
That is probably a safe bet. Very similar to how it was handled in the first Horizon.
Ok that makes a lot more sense to me now, thank you for taking the time for clarify it.
