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At this stage Valve are an online retailer that used to make video games. Until they ship something new this decade that's my opinion of them
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What's happening with In The Valley of Gods (Campo Santo/Valve)?
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Referring to those worried/complaining about axed games. In regards to the game itself, it does look interesting.
Maybe it wasn't coming along, so they cancelled it and are doing something else. Seems like the kind of thing they'd have the luxury of doing, being a part of Valve, and part of the reason they agreed to the deal in the first place.
Not being forced to come up with damage control for the whole situation is only bad for us, not to the people who only did it because they had to, not because they enjoyed doing PR.
Not being forced to come up with damage control for the whole situation is only bad for us, not to the people who only did it because they had to, not because they enjoyed doing PR.
Yeah, it's not like they released a game year ago and have one in Early Access now, releasing pretty soon(ish).
He's posted about it before elsewhere on the web. I can't remember where to find the quotes, but he has vocally admitted that he's been conned on several occasions, and is trying to avoid any further screw-ups. Also, it's not that far-fetched if you've been following him long enough and know how much some people despise him to this day.
Edit: Fuck. I just realized the posts likely don't even exist anymore. See, I believe they were made on the facepunch forums. The ones owned by the creator of Garry's mod, which were also filled with Valve fanboys. (That's why Tyler made an account their in the first place). And, well... Garry completely shut down and deleted the forums earlier this year.
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History repeats itself for the tenth time. I should've listened to the people who were disappointed by the acquisition news back then.
Yes they released a free to play card game that now tops out at 150 or fewer players a day. Totally seeing a lot of output this decade that's worth a damn.
I mean they just called artifact a free to play game. People tend to be proud of their ignorance here for some reason and really like to flaunt it.
Valve threads on here are insufferable. Guarantee you they've never played these games and come in with their hot takes too :()
Given what I understand about Valve it seems like if interest in the project waned it'd be very easy for the original CS employees to just disperse into the company pursuing other interests. The looks we've had into Valve make it seem like you have to be a cult of personality to get enough people backing your project for it to come to fruition.
Her tweets about Valve in general have been great ever since she joined.
This image sums up this thread pretty well.
This image sums up this thread pretty well.
Same cycle nonsense from Valve threads on this forum:
Forum speculation > platform warring circlejerk and unnecessary extrapolation > blame developer > establish conjecture as "fact" > scream false narrative at dev > continue to circulate rumour as "fact"
Haha, smart replies
... But she kinda didnt deny it, tho
Pretty sure that it's really dead, from what is gathered on the OP
Later in the video, they talk at length about the "you can work on whatever you want at Valve" trope of old. This includes a call from Remo about how everyone at Valve is "senior" in their kind of role, and when a particular project is in need of a staffer's senior talent, staffers feel compelled--and rewarded--to jump over and help out.
I'm not sure why that detail stood out to me.
I'm not sure why that detail stood out to me.
Midly interesting: Chris actually worked on Dota Underlords. So yeah I guess they're fine prioritizing other projects other than Valley of Gods. And if there really is a VR Half Life game about to ship I bet most people are working on this, to the point where it probably doesn't make sense to only be defined by Valley in your twitter profile.
If you watch that video with Remo in this thread, you can pretty much infer that the reason some people may have removed that from their bio is that that's not the only thing they're working on at Valve. I skipped around a bit, so maybe it's answered directly. but it seems like Remo at least has been doing other things as well, like UI on Underlords. Some of the responses in this thread, I swear. Whenever Valve is uttered the shitpost goblins come out. Even if they stopped working on it entirely, that is by all accounts largely their decision to make within the work structure at Valve.
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Welp. I was just made aware that this isn't the first time Tyler has tweeted bad news about this game:
Look at the date. Two and a half weeks ago. Clearly he knew something was up before anyone else did. I want to believe he's wrong, but it's not looking good.
Look at the date. Two and a half weeks ago. Clearly he knew something was up before anyone else did. I want to believe he's wrong, but it's not looking good.
That's really understating the problem. There were FOUR different levels of monetization at launch. You had to pay for the game, you had to pay for card packs, you had to pay for event tickets, and finally, you could buy cards on the steam marketplace. And I kid you not, they were planning a fifth, in the form of... what else... cosmetic microtransactions.
Welp. I was just made aware that this isn't the first time Tyler has tweeted bad news about this game:
Look at the date. Two and a half weeks ago. Clearly he knew something was up before anyone else did. I want to believe he's wrong, but it's not looking good.
Chris Remo walks you through how this can work at Valve, in the video already posted - from yesterday - if people need to ship something else, folks move to it.
If the product being shipped is large enough and people move of that project to the shipping one, in essence, its shelved till the other product is done.
Gamers and their fear complex
Portal 2 is one of the best games of this decade but aight
Nah guys, the reality was just that... Artifact was not a good game, nor it had any concrete future plans. I don't know what Valve expected: Heartstone of Steam? CSGO of cards?
The game had 50k concurrent players on launch. That is a great success for all but the biggest games on the planet. People were not happy, so they left. There are plenty of cards games which opened at just a few thousand players, yet retained the community for much much longer.
Plenty of people didn't want it, plenty of people didn't like the business model, but... it was the game itself that could not satisfy the community who bought it.
The game had 50k concurrent players on launch. That is a great success for all but the biggest games on the planet. People were not happy, so they left. There are plenty of cards games which opened at just a few thousand players, yet retained the community for much much longer.
Plenty of people didn't want it, plenty of people didn't like the business model, but... it was the game itself that could not satisfy the community who bought it.
Jesus Christ, educate yourself. Artifact was not F2P. Maybe you're thinking of the other game they've released in the past year, for PC and mobile?
YMMV. I've got nearly 600 hours in Artifact, and it's a bloody fantastic game which I play mostly every day. *shrugs* All Valve have to do is reboot it with f2p to get more players in, release an expansion or two (and then have some regularity with events and/or expansions) and fix a couple of mechanics (fucking Lock is broken).
On topic, it wouldn't surprise me if a) Valley was a) nearing completion, and people shifted across to HLVR because they want that out sooner rather than later.
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