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Oct 25, 2017
3,959
Osaka, Osaka
God yes. People are so fake here.
I've never had some many people pretend to be friends then backstab you or completely fall out of you life and pretend you no longer exist then I did here.
I'm finally moving away back to Washington State next month and I hope to never see Grand Rapids/West Michigan again.

Granted I had an engagement and a marriage both fall apart here too so maybe I'm biased, but for kinda the same reasons of them pretending to be people they were not and hiding it for years. Toxic, shitty, right wing, emotionally suppressive culture all around Grand Rapids Area.

Yeah I accidentally dated someone from there, and then met other folks through that.

Glad I got out of all of that.
 
Oct 2, 2018
3,902
NYC is great. Its so diverse and there's so much to do. I don't see how anyone can really hate on it tbh. I guess YMMV. It's got great art, lots of different boroughs, different foods, posh shit, cheap stuff, easy commute around. Highly walkable also. Loved it and I wanna revisit
 

Dyle

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
29,915
Gotham Wisconsin, those sickos pronounce it Go-thum and not Goth-um
 

BeeDog

Member
Oct 26, 2017
4,549
Mumbai. Went there for work, got annoyed by the extremely aggressive beggars and the dirtiness, and after day 3 I got so sick I honestly thought I'd die there. Started feeling like the entire country was actively trying to kill me during my fever hallucinations so promised myself to never set foot in India again.
 

Chibs

Member
Nov 5, 2017
4,505
Belgium
Rome I guess.

I mean, I had a good time and saw some beautiful things (the Vatican blew my mind, didn't expect to enjoy that as much as I did), but my god are the locals obnoxious.
 

Sabot

Saw the truth behind the copied door
Member
Oct 31, 2017
2,946
Amarillo, TX if I can avoid it.

I just felt... Exposed and unsafe there.
 

finalflame

Product Management
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,538
All y'all saying SF can honestly stay out and not come back, we're good on having enough people here.

I wish I could say I'll never go back to LA, but alas, I have friends there so I will end up there again. But if I could help it, I'd never step foot in that superficial shithole ever again.
 

Bladelaw

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,699
Paris. Been there thrice, all for work.

Pocket got picked among things.

Also, the 'romanticism' of Paris is greatly overrated.
SAME. For all the hype it gets Paris was hugely overrated. If I ever find myself in France again I'll stick to the countryside.
And all people complaining about Paris, Parisians secretly and dare I say openly don't want you there either
There was no secret about it. I was there for work and it was pretty clear I wasn't welcome. I've had great times in Montreal, Toronto, Brussels, London, Rotterdam, and others. I always felt welcomed. Paris couldn't have been more different. Nice, Normandy, and pretty much anywhere I went outside the city was AWESOME. The people were great, the food was incredible, and I had a great time. France is great but fuck Paris.
 

Turnabout Sisters

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
2,341
Hot springs, Arkansas. It was fun to do the hiking and hot spring thing for a day but I was stuck there for 5 days. There's nothing to do there and it has a serious sense of isolation due to the surroundings. The place was eerily quiet and creeped me out badly. Bad stuff happened to me on that trip too. Honestly I *would* recommend it if you ever find yourself in that area for some reason, and isolation is what you need, but I just have really bad memories and feelings associated with it so I won't be going back if I can help it. I'm sure if you're in the right mindset it's great.
 

softtack

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
5,650
Dubai.

You basically keep running from building to building because it's so fucking hot outside. And everything is superficial.
 

sirap

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,210
South East Asia
In what way? Like, why would they look down on you, and how do they make you feel that way?

Just the usual bullshit you deal with when you're a dark skinned foreigner in Asia, only made worse because I actually understand the racist comments made in Mandarin.

I usually shrug it off but it gets frustrating when it affects my shopping experience (which is the reason why I'm in SG in the first place).
 

Gpsych

Member
May 20, 2019
2,890
New York City. I got pink eye (which is essentially the most painful thing of all time) and tried to walk to a hospital in the middle of the night. Ended up getting mugged in Harlem. When I finally got to the hospital, I was place in a "room" (more like curtain dividers in a giant arena) with a guy who had a cockroach in his ear. No. Just no.
 

Tawpgun

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
9,861
Lived in Houston for over a year and can't say I'm in any rush to ever go back.

Way too big and spread apart. Ugly sprawl. Drivers are maniacs and assholes. Too hot and humid. Is underwater for a couple days every year. Who needs it.
 

Greendomo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
484
As someone who grew up in London, and lives in LA, some of you guys are painting the cities with a very broad brush. (Which I get is kind of part of the thread)

But both cities are so big and sprawling, it's hard to generalize them, and their differing areas are so diverse. If you go to LA and only experience downtown or the Hollywood walk of fame or Disneyland...you're missing out on so much
 

Westbahnhof

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
10,104
Austria
try living in the most tourist visited city on earth and see how fast people can get on your nerves lol

I met so many entitled tourists while there. People who didn't even try to learn French words and who would disobey the rules at places like Versailles.
I work with tourists, and I know how bad they get. Like that one old guy from the other side of the country who tried to literally break a museum object to test if.. Well. If it would break. Or that French lady that just walked up to me, asked me something in French, and when I responded that I don't speak French, she kept talking. In French. Despite me repeating that I don't speak French. And shaking my head. Until her husband came to translate.
Or that one family who yelled at me because we only had printed information in English and German.

People are rude, people are idiots.
No reason to be anything but friendly, as a waiter for example, if someone is politely trying to order in English. You shouldn't excuse people just being assholes to everyone.
 

Cat Party

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,413
LA sucks for a million reasons but I still enjoy visiting.

Redding, California is my vision of hell and I hope to never have to visit there again. They managed to make a city shittier than Fresno!
 

Kordelle

Prophet of Truth
Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,612
Marrakech.
  • People were extremely rude, trying to rip you off every time and also trying to lure you into dark corners, pretending to tell you "the way"
  • Air was super dirty
  • Dead cats On the sidewalks
  • Food was nothing special and the sizes of the meals were way to small (also my gf got food poisoning)
 

Fritz

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,719
Greymouth, NZ

very apt name given and it borders on lovecraftian levels of depressing. probably because its in such stark contrast to the rest of the country too.
 

Tzarscream

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
2,945
Marrakech.
  • People were extremely rude, trying to rip you off every time and also trying to lure you into dark corners, pretending to tell you "the way"
  • Air was super dirty
  • Dead cats On the sidewalks
  • Food was nothing special and the sizes of the meals were way to small (also my gf got food poisoning)
Marrakech is certainly an experience, but you really need to know what you're getting in to when you go. I'll admit I would have made different choices in terms of accommodation if I went again, but I would go again.

However, the same happened to me in terms of kids trying to lure me and my gf down a dark alleyway, it felt like the end of Goodfellas.
 

Doober

Banned
Jun 10, 2018
4,295
Rome I guess.

I mean, I had a good time and saw some beautiful things (the Vatican blew my mind, didn't expect to enjoy that as much as I did), but my god are the locals obnoxious.

I didn't think they were obnoxious but there was definitely a... coldness... to everyone. Hard to explain, but between Rome and Athens I got the impression that a lot of Europeans are rather grumpy.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
232
For me, it's Chicago (definitely in the pre-spring, at least). I enjoyed the city's architecture and the lakeside attractions were very pretty, but many of the neighborhoods I did visit during my short time there felt... a bit off. The gay bar scene was devoid of the excitement I feel in New York even at the same time of year or when experiencing the same weather.

I also felt accosted on the el more than once, starting with the ride from O'Hare. It emotionally left a grimy and lousy first impression. I could get the same treatment at home for free - why did I get on a plane just to see what it was like?
I also felt accosted on the el more than once, starting with the ride from O'Hare. It emotionally left a grimy and lousy first impression. I could get the same treatment at home for free - why did I get on a plane just to see what it was like?

Maybe the physical similarities between Chicago and New York made it too "familiar" to me to be interesting? Dense street grids! Trains! People I know flaking out on me after expressing interest in meeting! It really could have just been bad luck. But I'm not going to try my luck. Next time I want to be not-home again, it's Los Angeles or Toronto.

I'm in the Chicago area and well....I pretty much agree with this poster's sentiments. I never really liked the Chicago area. I've seen mostly all of it and let me say I've been to cities much much better than Chicago! The only ties I've had keeping me here is my family. Once my health issues are resolved-hopefully get resolved that is-I'm out of here. I'm going much further South. Within the City limits of Chicago itself...it's a damn war zone. I haven't been to downtown in.....many years now for this reason. Worse yet the crime is really starting to spill out into the South and Southwest suburbs now too! no real friends, no opportunities here, I'm just done with Chicago. I respect those who call it home that love it. I just never liked it. I can't do winter here anymore, gets dark at 4pm, cold, snowy..just don't have it in me anymore. My parents have chosen to be buried here, I respect that. They grew up and have lived here, this is all they really know well.

Downstate is much better to me. Much friendlier people without the shadow of Chicago looming over it. Shit even Rockford has distanced itself from Chicago. Rockford is only 60 miles from O'Hare but damn they don't want to be associated with Chicago. I don't blame them! They've got their own TV, radio stations and even airport. Even Rockford is a nicer place imo than Chicago.

I saw Kankakee mentioned up thread. I'm about 30 miles north of there. At one time they were really trying to make it a nice tourist destination. There's a lot of outdoor things to do in the immediate area around it and they were you know sensibly trying to build the tourist presence around those things. They even had an FM Tourist Info radio station at one point! That went dark quite quite a while back, and the tourist initiative has mostly fallen apart. It's just another small city now. But for a while they were really trying to upgrade and liven it up. Too bad it didn't catch on and stick.

Edit- just looked outta curiosity and I'll be damned, that Tourist Info radio station down in Kankakee is still active! Shit, sorry guys I thought it went dark long ago. You can only get it now if you're passing through Kankakee County though. I used to be able to get it at my house when weather cooperated. Hmm maybe I should try to get it one of these days, wonder what angle they're using on there these days.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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Re all the talk about Paris, I'd thought I'd ask. I've got a friend who is French Canadian and she says that she pretends not to be able speak French in Paris because she actually gets treated better than if she speaks with her Quebecois accent. Is that a thing?
There's definitely stigma around Quebecois, and Parisians considering their accent the best one is also a thing, so I wouldn't be surprised if it could be a problem.

But if they're assholes they'll find any reason to be assholes. My wife speaks excellent French but since they could tell she was a foreigner some people pretended like they couldn't understand her.

Hartford CT is a shithole! I was born there
I enjoyed it for a weekend. Some really nice buildings, historical sites, and museums. Even though everyone from the servers to the homeless guy asking for money wondered what the hell we were doing there Memorial Day weekend. Place was dead quiet and I loved it.
 

Piggus

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,693
Oregon
Probably Macao. The old part of the city is cool, but the new part where we stayed is basically just wannabe Las Vegas except... not fun at all. Vegas feels like a lawless place and is full of people partying. Macao had like 1/5th the people at best and the casinos were clearly hampered by stricter rules.
 

DavidDesu

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
5,718
Glasgow, Scotland
Istanbul. Epic vista but was pretty scary when I went. Football fans riding around in cars firing guns in the air, haha. Tons of homeless kids begging when we went to the big mosque there. This was in 1999 though, lots of time for improvement (like Glasgow which I feel has transformed quite a lot since then just FYI).

Also second Paris. Meh. Love Berlin, admittedly it's quite a dull city in parts, but lots it make up for it and amazing nightlife of course.

Off to Amsterdam tomorrow, kind of dreading how many other tourists are going to be there and the prices in general. Woo.
 

Forerunner

Resetufologist
The Fallen
Oct 30, 2017
14,579
I had some training down in Arkansas around the Fort Smith area. That state is a dump. Sorry to everyone that lives there.
 

Mechaplum

Enlightened
Member
Oct 26, 2017
18,796
JP
Just the usual bullshit you deal with when you're a dark skinned foreigner in Asia, only made worse because I actually understand the racist comments made in Mandarin.

I usually shrug it off but it gets frustrating when it affects my shopping experience (which is the reason why I'm in SG in the first place).

Why would you shop in SG when you have KL, Bangkok or HK nearby?

Singapore would be my answer too. It's super safe, and the people are okay but as a city it has like zero character.
 

Pagusas

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,876
Frisco, Tx
NYC is great. Its so diverse and there's so much to do. I don't see how anyone can really hate on it tbh. I guess YMMV. It's got great art, lots of different boroughs, different foods, posh shit, cheap stuff, easy commute around. Highly walkable also. Loved it and I wanna revisit

Lots of reasons to hate it. It's filthy, many parts of it are hideously ugly, the subway is gross and people tend to be rude.
 
Nov 7, 2017
1,476
Weird reading the Paris hate, I was just in Paris for 4 days and found the people so friendly, welcoming and fun. Even with my shit French. We had some great nights out.
 

Stinkles

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
20,459
Naples.

garbage strike
Graffiti on antiques
Pickpockets literally everywhere
8 cab rides, 8 theft attempts

Shame because if it were clean and safe it would be world class.
 
Oct 27, 2017
21,518
Any, preferably. Cities suck. I haven't been to the shithole that is downtown Seattle in over a decade and I live about 15 miles from there.
I've been to New York, London, Paris, Los Angeles, Vancouver, San Francisco, and so on and nope.