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What Warcraft 3 reforged looks nowadays
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2020’s most disappointing games, as led by Blizzard’s WarCraft III: Reforged
Plus five other games, though really, none is as bad as Blizzard's year-long bummer.
arstechnica.com
I bought original wc3 last year, after hearing about reforged's misfires, I'm afraid to check my beloved reign of chaos...
They haven't really fixed or improved much, basic functionality such as user profiles and a ladder system are still completely MIA.
Luckily if you wanna play multiplayer the community has pushed ahead and developed a comprehensive addon that now supports host bots (since blizzard never added servers for any of the many regions that play the game) and you can find that at https://www.w3champions.com/
Luckily if you wanna play multiplayer the community has pushed ahead and developed a comprehensive addon that now supports host bots (since blizzard never added servers for any of the many regions that play the game) and you can find that at https://www.w3champions.com/
2020’s most disappointing games, as led by Blizzard’s WarCraft III: Reforged
Plus five other games, though really, none is as bad as Blizzard's year-long bummer.
This is an excellent recap, thank you for making people aware of how poorly this whole thing has been handled.
As an Australian who has been unable to play games on sub 200 ping for the last year I am so elated at everything the w3champions team has done, heroes.
Reforged is probably my biggest gaming disappointment ever. This game was a very significant part of my growing up, and even made some friends from there. To see it being treated like hot garbage is sad. I have completely given up on them fixing Reforged. They got their money and now it's time to dip
Say I'm just interested in playing the campaigns on modern system ,will I enjoy the game? never played the original BTW.
You can purchase the originals and they work on modern systems. In fact they are fantastic.
I stopped following the game and I didn't even know this, jesus christ lol
To my understanding buying Reforged gets me the classics games too,just need to use the Reforge serial license when installing them,correct?
Last I heard, it's mostly played by folks using a mod that restores everything that was stripped while also stripping almost everything that was added. That's probably not a good sign.
This is the only way to interact with Warcraft 3 anymore:
www.w3champions.com
Restores battle.net to how it used to look. It's sorta like ICCUP back in Starcraft 1. This has a deep ranked ladder like in SC2, profiles, profile icons to unlock, a global ladder with about 15 servers, many more than official battle.net has. I can play with just about anyone in the world with 100-120ping for the longest distances. Has -zoom support, easily change hotkeys, ability to change inventory hotkeys which the official client still can't do. It's truly is insane what this community effort has achieved.
W3Champions
www.w3champions.com
I forgot this existed for a while and this thread just made me remember this disaster. i was this close to buying it. THankfuly i waited for reviews. All blizzard needed was to apply a new coat of paint to the game and it was good to go.
Such a disapointed.
I'm still a bit salty that most gaming jornalists didn't punish the game much higher due to literally being an inferior version to the original.
Such a disapointed.
I'm still a bit salty that most gaming jornalists didn't punish the game much higher due to literally being an inferior version to the original.
Only 2 games have absolutely shattered me with disappointment based on what the devs promised with early reveals/trailers compared to the final product. The first was Sim City (2013) and the second this game. Other games have obviously disappointed but never to the level these 2 games hit. I have no words for just how let down I felt by the developers. Genuine dislike, and I don't say that lightly.
Don't remind me. Played it at BlizzCon 2018 all hyped as hell to see these amazing cutscenes for Stratholme. Then a year later we get.... this.
I had forgotten what a shitshow Sim City (2013) was...
Sadly for Warcraft 3 nothing has really improved nor there was ever any commitment by Blizzard to fix so it is the same mess and is just as a failure as it was when it launched.
It's the game that itself spawned entire spinoff genres, including the biggest esports game of all time in DOTA. How could you fuck this up so colossally? If they put even half the effort they put into SC:R or WoWC it would have been fine, but they somehow managed to put out a remake worse than the original. Seriously, what gives?
It's been almost a whole year and it doesn't look like they've done much of anything with it aside from a few patches here and there.
I still hate that it forced everyone to download the remastered content regardless of whether they actually owned it. The install size increased by like 10x, and now I have ~30 GB of assets on my hard drive that are completely locked out to me until I upgrade (which, at this rate, will happen around a quarter after never).
I still hate that it forced everyone to download the remastered content regardless of whether they actually owned it. The install size increased by like 10x, and now I have ~30 GB of assets on my hard drive that are completely locked out to me until I upgrade (which, at this rate, will happen around a quarter after never).
Activision knee-capped the project. Basically went on to fire hundreds of people at blizzard and then reduce the scope of the project severely.
Basically:
Thank fuck we have a system for it at least. It's a serious shame they dropped this game so fucking fast.
Blizzard is awful these days, there's no way around it. They did their best to ruin the GOAT but luckily...
W3champions is truly great, they basically fixed WC3. Can not recommend enough to everyone.
And not only that, a big shout out to the creators on discord who personally take time to actually help if there's something not working even for an individual user.
This is the only way to interact with Warcraft 3 anymore:
Restores battle.net to how it used to look. It's sorta like ICCUP back in Starcraft 1. This has a deep ranked ladder like in SC2, profiles, profile icons to unlock, a global ladder with about 15 servers, many more than official battle.net has. I can play with just about anyone in the world with 100-120ping for the longest distances. Has -zoom support, easily change hotkeys, ability to change inventory hotkeys which the official client still can't do. It's truly is insane what this community effort has achieved.W3Champions
W3champions is truly great, they basically fixed WC3. Can not recommend enough to everyone.
And not only that, a big shout out to the creators on discord who personally take time to actually help if there's something not working even for an individual user.
I replayed the human campaign last year after being so disappointed with WC3 Refunded. Honestly, it holds up quite well. I was supersampling from 4k down to 1080p and it looked/ran beautifully. The only let down in my opinion is the CGI videos; they look pretty compressed and messy by today's standards. They still convey the story perfectly fine; I just feel like I'm watching a web video from 15 years ago.
As a free update to WC3, it's pretty good, Battle.net launcher integration, proper widescreen, HD cinematics, etc, though it's missing features like a proper ladder, surprised they didn't add it back in yet.
As a paid remaster, it's pretty damn bad when compared to the 2018 Blizzcon demo, one of the biggest downgrades since Watch Dogs 2012. It's seems like such a waste of effort because the new models are super high quality, but the lighting & post processing from the 2018 demo is gone & makes the new models look like shit, like putting a high res texture in Mario 64, it just doesn't fit. The 2018 UI is gone too, which was sorely needed because WC3 came out in a time where minimalism wasn't really thought of in game design, WC3's UI is iconic, but it takes up so much screen space for no reason.
As a paid remaster, it's pretty damn bad when compared to the 2018 Blizzcon demo, one of the biggest downgrades since Watch Dogs 2012. It's seems like such a waste of effort because the new models are super high quality, but the lighting & post processing from the 2018 demo is gone & makes the new models look like shit, like putting a high res texture in Mario 64, it just doesn't fit. The 2018 UI is gone too, which was sorely needed because WC3 came out in a time where minimalism wasn't really thought of in game design, WC3's UI is iconic, but it takes up so much screen space for no reason.
What makes it especially depressing is that it's obvious that the team working on it really cared. They made tons of custom models for one off characters, and adapted as much WoW lore (retcons and changes) back into WC3 as possible without it seeming completely tasteless.
I really feel like they could've knocked it out of the park if Blizzard had let them, instead of aborting it :/
I really feel like they could've knocked it out of the park if Blizzard had let them, instead of aborting it :/
Damn shame. I swear publishers really are blind when it comes to this stuff.
Someone with a BIG EGO at the company didn't want his reforged version to be compared to the old. That's usually how it goes.
I only ever cared about the single player, so the game looks good enough for me but I will never forgive them for scrapping the enhanced cutscenes. They were the entire reason I pre-ordered the game in the first place.
I can't believe how bad the new graphics ended up being. I know they were going for some compatibility thing that probably caused some issues, but there's just no... visual clarity. You could say that the OG graphics had to be obvious because they were designed when 1024x768 was the predominant resolution, but then you look at something like Starcraft 2: marines, medics, marauders, firebats, all relatively similar sized human units, all very distinct from a distance. It's like they designed the new models for a close up view, without paying attention to how it looks at the regular camera height, when there's 30 units on screen.
After trying out AOE2:DE, its absolutely shocking to look at Warcraft 3 reforged.
Blizzard is treating W3 community like shit.
Blizzard is treating W3 community like shit.
Me too. Still baffled how they managed to do that. Update visuals with widescreen support and quality of life improvements.
What could go wrong?
EA used the same studio for CnC Remastered and that was perfect. It's so weird that EA and MS made awesome remasters but Blizzard totally fucked up. I have more respect for EA nowadays than Blizzard.
All I wanted was a new reconned story with new cutscenes and they dropped that so I lost interest.