What sequel is the worst offender of "blatant asset re-use"?

[EloKa]

dota isnt a sequel, ALBW reused none of LTTP assets (these are very confusing choices)

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Dota is marked as "controversal" because it kinda succeeded Warcraft 3. But not as WC4 but as the sequel genre to WC3.

Also assets are more than just graphic models or sprites. If you copy / re-use a complete world then that world is also an asset. Seems like the common definition for assets are: 2D sprites, 3D models, missions, levels, areas, voice, key framing, motion capture, sound effects, music and special effects.

 

[L Thammy]

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As I understand it, Mario 64's engine was just repurposed again and again unto infinity. Ocarina of Time was built on it, and them there pretty much every 3D Zelda kept reusing it.

 

[Basileus777]

I'd say: some



It's not sharing the exact same assets, but still... it feels like one might count a lot of stuff "same" like the maps

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Remaking the same world with new assets is not asset reuse though. Nor is reusing enemy designs with new assets.

 

[StallionDan]

Not sure what assets are being re-used in Rev2, it's a whole new setting with new characters, enemies and mechanics.

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Did you play Raid mode? Also a few things about the story are pulled from Rev1.

 

[Ryuhza]

^Can you tell which game this is?

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Wolfenstein 3D?

 

[Deleted member 11008]

Between Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne and Raidou Kuzonaha vs The King Abbadon/Persona 4 there are a lot of games using the same engine and reused assest. Still kick ass.

 

[Gamer @ Heart]

Far Cry with the map?

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I think you mean primal which used the skeleton of the map from 4, but you would be hard pressed to tell. None of the plants or animals or anything else really were shared. New Dawn on the other hand just slapped some paint, rust, and colorful flowers on things and mostly called it a day outside of the awesome exposition areas. Granted, it was a budget title at the very least.

 

[FarZa17]

Gran Turismo 5 - 6.

Re-using the standard cars from PS2 version of GT with most of the textures still intact, which make them look pretty ugly on HD/Full HD display and game engine.

 

[Yinyangfooey]

Star Ocean 5. It used assets from Star Ocean 4, battle skills were pretty much reskins from Star Ocean 3, oh and re-used a lot of music from SO4. Seriously felt like the cheapest game I've ever played.

Also, Kingdom Hearts is a pretty lazy ass series IMO I was pretty tired of seeing the same shit by the time DDD rolled around

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Oh my god this was the biggest cheap rip off ever.

Literally everything about it was copied from previous games. All the characters, their battle skills, fucking EVERYTHING.

 

[KushalaDaora]

Pre-World Monster Hunter titles.

Dragon Age 2 reused the exact same dungeon like five times.

And it wasn't even from the first game.

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Human enemies in Dragon Age 2 uses animation from Origins, while your party got new, much faster animation (which they reuse for Inquisition). It's super jarring seeing how sluggish enemy attack is compared to your party (by the time enemy archer shoot one arrow, your bow user already shoot 5-6 arrows), no wonder they threw gazillion amount of enemies at a time to make

 

[pochi]

Marvel Vs Capcom Infinite
Maybe Smash Ultimate

 

[battleborn27]

Marvel Vs Capcom Infinite
Maybe Smash Ultimate

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One of these was done tastefully, added sooooo much more content, gave the fans everything they wanted and more

The other was done terribly, was beyond ugly, bombed

Not comparable at all

 

[Squid Bunny]

This should only be disparaged when it's done poorly. I don't need every aspect of a game series to be built from scratch for every entry.

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This. Smart asset reuse should be lauded as doing more with less (think the clouds/bushes in SMB), not laziness.

 

[Dr Pears]

Hopefully not Breath of the Wild 2.

 

[ryu_highabusa]

DOA 6 is so bad for this. They're charging like $90 each for three different "season passes" which are mostly rehashed content from 5.

 

[Lavatein]

Neptunia is pretty absurd for this. The first three games use the exact same dungeons/enemies/items, the only difference is the story. Later games are slightly better about it but there's still a whole lot of deja vu.

Same for the Agarest games. I guess it's an issue with Compile Heart trying to cut costs.

 

[Dezzy]

Atlus the thread.

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This is actually Compile Heart/Idea Factory the thread.

 

[Spinluck]

Capcom vs Snk 2

 

[Bit_Reactor]

Haven't played it, as this is from my memories of playing GU back in 2016 on the PS2. From what I heard they only turned down the grinding needed in the game, not so much in adding more variety in the zones that you can visit. It still very much is just grasszone (with it varying by using one of three stages of day), cave dungeon, and Japanese shrine dungeon for Vol. 1.

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Oh I meant the speed and stuff. Sorry I worded it vaguely.

 

[emilioasis]

Bravely Second comes to mind

 

[DanarchyReigns]

Yo-kai Watch had the same Springdale for 3 games. There were slight variations but if you played the first game, you can easily walk around the city in the third game.

 

[Bradford]

Easily FF4: the After Years.

Same areas. Same Bosses. Re-used in this game too.

It also just sucks, in general.

 

[King Alamat]

Saints Row IV, which is notable both for originating as an expansion pack for its predecessor and being better than it in every single way.

 

[c0Zm1c]

Saint Row 4 was originally a expansion pack, and the open world is just a recoloured version of Steelport with blocks to use superpowers on. It's still a really funny game.

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First thing I thought of seeing the thread but I too really liked the game.

Guild Wars: Eye of the North's prestige armour sets being almost entirely reskins of previous sets is something else that comes to mind. I sometimes saw Warrior Asuran armour referred to as Elite Kurzick for poor players lol!

 

[Canas Renvall]

I can't remember what assets RE REV2 used.

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He may be referring to Raid Mode, the levels of which are almost exclusively from other games (mainly RE6). In addition to all the character models from other RE games for just about every character you can think of (Wesker, Jill, Chris, HUNK, Rachel, etc etc).

 

[Deleted member 60295]

Half LIfe: Blue Shift. It's not as egregious as many of the examples in this thread, but at the time of release, it came off really poorly. Yes, it was marketed as an expansion pack, but so was Opposing Force, and the latter was practically a full fledged sequel in its own right.

 

[SchrodingerC]

Dragon Age 2. Good lord that game reused assets to the maximum, so annoying.

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The spirit of the thread seems to be games that copied assets into the sequel. DA2 used those dam cliffs/cave/deep road maps for every sidequest, but it wasnt lifted it from origins at the very least.

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Barely much was reused from DAO, beyond character creator options and armors/weapons. If anything, the series is weirdly inconsistent with its art design. A better comparison might be DA2 and DAI, like some background props for example.

 

[Kthulhu]

Cross Tag Battle.

Just about every sprite is reused.

 

[hikarutilmitt]

Igavania reused assets from goddammed Rondo for... How many sequels?

 

[anariel]

I know it was mentioned in the OP, but Xillia 2 was pretty rife with asset reuse. Made the whole thing feel like they were trying to recoup costs/buy time rather than genuinely trying to make a sequel, which soured me pretty quickly on the whole experience.

 

[Phendrift]

Majora's Mask but in a good way

FFX-2

 

[Acquiesc3]

This HAS to be White Knight Chronicles 2. It was awful.

 

[Seafoam Gaming]

New Super Mario Bros 2. They didn't even bother to change the freaking music. It's different from NSMB DS, but compared to NSMBW every theme and world order is the exact same and they didn't add any new songs to my knowledge. I still hate how mario games use the Desert World as World 2 since I HAAAATTTTTTE Desert levels more than any other setpiece in gaming. It's so cliche and boring to have it be the next thing to take place after a great, beautiful world 1.

 

[Deleted member 9746]

Most sequels in every Trails arc. While there might be new areas and dungeons, they all they take place in the same setting during their respective arcs so it's kinda unavoidable.

 

[Weiss]

Sprite based SMT games regularly use sprites that were made in 1995 and prior. If Kaneko wasn't such a good artist it'd definitely be a pain.

 

[Paragraf]

Adventure modes in Naruto Storm 2-4.

 

[Outrun]

As mentioned by others, Crackdown 2 was baaaaaad.

 

[Aexact]

Sprite based SMT games regularly uses sprites that were made in 1995 and prior. If Kaneko wasn't such a good artist it'd definitely be a pain.

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Feels like I'm shilling for pro asset reuse but I was definitely out off by the handful of new demon designs by guest artists in SMT4. Most of them felt like design monstrosities that don't belong.

 

[Sei]

I thought elder scrolls / fallout was the easy answer.

 

[Weiss]

Feels like I'm shilling for pro asset reuse but I was definitely out off by the handful of new demon designs by guest artists in SMT4. Most of them felt like design monstrosities that don't belong.

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You are not wrong.

 

[Warrior of Light]

Capcom Fighting Jam, anyone?

Also, Final Fantasy IV: The After Years

 

[Sento]

Arkham Origins, not only it uses the entire Arkham City map AND it's DLC locations, it also has Copy/Pasted animations for characters like Deathstroke.

It also has reskinned versions of City's gadgets. (Glue Grenade)

 

[Vic Damone Jr.]

Xillia 2, I was so disheartened when I got to the docks and every damn one was the same. I was hoping the world would be a little updated:/

 

[Dr Doom]

Let me tell you about Kamurocho

 

[Rodney McKay]

KOTOR 2 and Fallout New Vegas.

I understand that Obsidian probably had a showstring budget, but I was never able to get into either of those games mainly due to loving and playing the hell out of KOTOR 1 and Fallout 3, so by the time I got around to playing the Obsidian games I was pretty burnt out on them from a gameplay and graphics perspective.

I started up KOTOR 2 and I was like: oh, it's like KOTOR 1 but uglier (like Dantooine was done again, but all destroyed with brown grass instead of green.

And then when I started Fallout New Vegas I was like: oh, Fallout 3's graphics have NOT held up well at all, and setting it in a desert isn't doing it any favors.

Again, Obsidian did everything they could with what they were given, but even with making good stories (I personally didn't like either of their stories much, but can see why people would like them) I just didn't like either of them due to them being such similar quick sequels.

 

[Sampson]

That was some toxic drivel before launch. It's a multiplayer game with new maps, clothes, hubs and an entirely new campaign. That's like saying CoDs are copy pasted every year.

Also the first game was in HD.

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I love Splatoon 2, but it's literally just an expansion to the first game. The mechanics are identical and the story mode is short and very linear. It's silly to compare it to CoD.

 

[Samanosuke Akechi]

Yakuza series I guess.

 

[Virtua King]

Yakuza. It's not a bad thing though.

 

[Epcott]

Madden Football 😂

 

[Ifrit]

The Japanese SMB2 hands down